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Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« on: December 13, 2018, 01:19:29 am »
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Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
By Max Jaeger

December 12, 2018 | 6:23pm | Updated December 12, 2018 | 6:31pm

The Boy Scouts of America is mulling declaring bankruptcy amid flagging membership and an avalanche of costly sex abuse allegations, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Leaders have hired Chicago law firm Sidley Austin for help in a potential Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing, sources told the outlet.

The organization has been fending off lawsuits over alleged abuse, including one filed by four former scouts who called the club a “pedophile magnet” and alleged that they were molested by scoutmaster Waldron Ackerman between 1974 and 1976.

Read more at: https://nypost.com/2018/12/12/boy-scouts-of-america-may-declare-bankruptcy/

Sad, that was a great America when the BSA were exemplary. I wasn't aware there were cases back in the '70s as the last paragraph reads. Unfortunately, there is going to be some of that, it seems about everywhere.

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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 01:31:51 am »
Ahem, it's not the Boy Scouts anymore.

Which of course may be the big reason WHY they're falling apart.
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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2018, 01:34:56 am »
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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2018, 01:36:40 am »
Ahem, it's not the Boy Scouts anymore.

Which of course may be the big reason WHY they're falling apart.

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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2018, 03:55:11 am »
Meanwhile. Trail Life is booming.

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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2018, 04:01:36 am »
Ugh, no one wants the crappy popcorn they sell anyway.

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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2018, 04:03:26 am »
Throw away over a hundred years of tradition and turn on your members and your values and the original founding principles of the Boy Scouts, you get what you deserve. 
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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2018, 04:06:18 am »
Ugh, no one wants the crappy popcorn they sell anyway.

We wouldn't have sold you any anyway. We used to have standards.

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2018, 04:08:15 am »
We wouldn't have sold you any anyway. We used to have standards.

Guess that was before they started setting up folding tables outside of Publix and harassing everyone going in and out to buy a box.

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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2018, 04:13:29 am »
Guess that was before they started setting up folding tables outside of Publix and harassing everyone going in and out to buy a box.

I don't think the definition of "box" you are using is the same as theirs.

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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2018, 04:15:38 am »
I don't think the definition of "box" you are using is the same as theirs.

I have no idea what you mean.  Is "Popcorn" some new Xbox game that I don't know about?

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2018, 04:19:24 am »
I have no idea what you mean.  Is "Popcorn" some new Xbox game that I don't know about?

Well back in the olden days we used to use groovy slang terms to look hip......and it worked.

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2018, 04:37:08 am »
Throw away over a hundred years of tradition and turn on your members and your values and the original founding principles of the Boy Scouts, you get what you deserve.

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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2018, 04:57:19 am »
As a highly decorated Eagle Scout I would like to say I have no idea if the rumors that James Turley is a pedophile are true. Guess it doesn't matter know because the head of Earnst and Young bankrupted the organization. Awesome accountant.

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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2018, 05:00:03 am »
What am I reading here?
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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2018, 02:10:45 pm »
When the BSA Executives voted to abandon their duty to God and allow gays into the organization, I decided to leave the organization.  Glad I did.

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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2018, 02:14:42 pm »
Ugh, no one wants the crappy popcorn they sell anyway.

The hell? We sold candy bars that came with kick ass coupons when I was in the scouts.
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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2018, 03:22:19 pm »
My son has had an overall very positive experience in BSA.  Just this past weekend friends from two troops came out to help him with his Eagle Project, and he has staffed the local council leadership camp (NYLT, National Youth Leadership Training) now for several years.  I was the Advancement Chair and de-facto Chaplain of one of his troops, and I took the Wood Badge training.

But when BSA made their membership changes regarding sexual orientation I began backing out.  I didn't immediately eject; if I can help boys and parents that I know personally I will continue to do so.  Nor have I pulled my son out, he's old enough to make his own decisions on it.  But I can't maintain Duty to God while also pretending that His Word doesn't say what it clearly says.  I resigned from personal roles and no longer participate in any leadership tasks.

The most surprising thing to me was that most of the local "Scouters" (adults who participate, often in leadership roles for the council or district) could not even understand my rationale.  Scouting's Duty to God criterion has become so ecumenical that it is frankly meaningless, and Scouters don't seem to understand that Duty to God can have positive, undeniable requirements about what we are willing to associate ourselves with in an organization that professes to teach values.

My understanding is that local councils in several states were going to be sued by the various state departments of justice over discrimination, and for that reason national leadership decided to surrender on the sexual orientation question.  More trivially, I was told by a prominent local scouter that had BSA not changed that policy, the World Scouting Organization would never have awarded an International Jamboree to the USA.  Both indicate that what used to be called Boy Scouts of America lost its original purpose and became a self-protecting, self-perpetuating bureaucracy.

I prefer the stance of a scouter to whom I asked the rhetorical question "how much of its time, money, and resources should BSA be willing to spend in legal battles that seem less and less likely to succeed?"  He replied "All of it."
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Re: Boy Scouts of America may declare bankruptcy
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2018, 03:57:41 pm »
When the BSA Executives voted to abandon their duty to God and allow gays into the organization, I decided to leave the organization.  Glad I did.

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The day they announced that they were going to allow gay leaders is the day they went bankrupt. They just didn't know it yet.
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2018, 04:00:50 pm »
What am I reading here?

What you are reading here is that I was FAR from the only one who turned in his long-standing BSA credentials the very same day they announced that they were going to allow gay leaders in the organization.
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2018, 04:17:11 pm »




I prefer the stance of a scouter to whom I asked the rhetorical question "how much of its time, money, and resources should BSA be willing to spend in legal battles that seem less and less likely to succeed?"  He replied "All of it."

You're whole post was great. 

 This last line was how the BSA should have fought the SJW attack.
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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2018, 04:21:35 pm »
@HoustonSam

You are a much more diplomatic person than I.
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2018, 05:38:11 pm »
The hell? We sold candy bars that came with kick ass coupons when I was in the scouts.

Maybe it's a local thing.  The scouts here sell boxes of microwave popcorn outside of the local grocery stores.  I've never seen them sell candy bars.

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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2018, 05:41:35 pm »
Maybe it's a local thing.  The scouts here sell boxes of microwave popcorn outside of the local grocery stores.  I've never seen them sell candy bars.

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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2018, 05:45:19 pm »
They melt in the FL summer heat.

So do I.