More millennials are moving back home - and it's making everyone depressed:

[sneakypete]

Easy to say when you were part of the most privileged generation in the history of the world.

@Dexter   

So,are you saying that you know RoosGirl and her family history personally,and that qualifies you to make that judgement about her?

I grew up poor as a member of "the most privileged generation",and was told from the time I started school that I needed to learn something because "when you turn 18 you are out of here!" Joined the army on my 17th birthday,and when I came back home on leave from basic training,they had thrown or given away every toy,magazine,book,and piece of clothing I ever owned. My father had even sold my car. It wasn't much of a car,just a junker I had bought with earnings from working on a shrimp boat the summer before joining the army,but it WAS mine and I bought and paid for it. My father's response was "my yard,my car".

Granted,I was adopted,but I was far from being the only one things like this happened to. I knew one guy that said when he returned home on leave after basic training the home no longer belonged to the family. They had sold it and hit the road with no forwarding address.

Ozzie and Harriet was a fantasy tv program,not reality.

[Cyber Liberty]

 

[musiclady]

Happiness cannot be created by government decree or program, even free college.
It's up to the individual - like everything else we've been trying to explain to you.

Sweden is (other than the recent Muslim invasion), a homogeneous culture, pacifist, and basically useless to the rest of the world. 

American socialists often use Scandinavia as the ideal that we should try to emulate, when in truth, the situation in those countries is not comparable to the United States.  It is inferior.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Dexter   

So,are you saying that you know RoosGirl and her family history personally,and that qualifies you to make that judgement about her?

I grew up poor as a member of "the most privileged generation",and was told from the time I started school that I needed to learn something because "when you turn 18 you are out of here!" Joined the army on my 17th birthday,and when I came back home on leave from basic training,they had thrown or given away every toy,magazine,book,and piece of clothing I ever owned. My father had even sold my car. It wasn't much of a car,just a junker I had bought with earnings from working on a shrimp boat the summer before joining the army,but it WAS mine and I bought and paid for it. My father's response was "my yard,my car".

Granted,I was adopted,but I was far from being the only one things like this happened to. I knew one guy that said when he returned home on leave after basic training the home no longer belonged to the family. They had sold it and hit the road with no forwarding address.

Ozzie and Harriet was a fantasy tv program,not reality.

From what I've seen, I think you turned it pretty well! 

[Dexter]

@Dexter - when you came back to posting on TBR, you said you had learned a lot here, and were disenchanted with the Democrat party and being moved toward conservatism.

I used to be liberal across the board. If you really knew where I started you'd agree that I am much more conservative.

On this thread you have been given factual information and anecdotal material that disproves your feeling that you millennials have things worse than previous generations have had it.  The truth is that the majority of young people believe (because they have been indoctrinated into being socialists, as you clearly have) that this country owes them comfort and ease.

You believe that lie, and that's where your entire premise falls apart.  You do not have it tougher.  You just want your life to be struggle-free.

I think financial success these days is clearly more difficult due to distractions and more expensive bills. The millennials are struggling a lot. I don't agree with you when it comes to the reasons for why that is.

You, for the most part, remain civil, and you have had multiple older, wiser, and more experienced Briefers here give you information that should help lead you to the truth........ IF you actually are interested in the truth.

The truth is pretty subjective sometimes. I think we just see things differently when it comes to what our goals as a nation should be. You'd have to muster one hell of an argument to convince me differently when it comes to the things I've said in this thread.

Go back and reread this thread, and consider all the advice you have been given, and the real-life experiences and factual data provided, and then, as a Democrat, consider the words of JFK who said, "Ask not what this country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country," and remember that the Democrat party has not always been socialist/communist as it is today, and that the young people of a few decades ago didn't actually expect America to take care of them, but expected to work hard and help America instead.

This is what the majority of your generation, in your selfishness, are missing.

Take heed.

The Democrat party is just the other side of the one corporate party that controls our country and is turning us into an oligarchy.

[Dexter]

@Dexter   

So,are you saying that you know RoosGirl and her family history personally,and that qualifies you to make that judgement about her?

I grew up poor as a member of "the most privileged generation",and was told from the time I started school that I needed to learn something because "when you turn 18 you are out of here!" Joined the army on my 17th birthday,and when I came back home on leave from basic training,they had thrown or given away every toy,magazine,book,and piece of clothing I ever owned. My father had even sold my car. It wasn't much of a car,just a junker I had bought with earnings from working on a shrimp boat the summer before joining the army,but it WAS mine and I bought and paid for it. My father's response was "my yard,my car".

Granted,I was adopted,but I was far from being the only one things like this happened to. I knew one guy that said when he returned home on leave after basic training the home no longer belonged to the family. They had sold it and hit the road with no forwarding address.

Ozzie and Harriet was a fantasy tv program,not reality.

A lot of people from that generation still struggled obviously. I think on average it was a lot easier to find financial success back then. I think those of you that struggled back then would find it even more difficult these days.

[mountaineer]

Truth is not, by definition, subjective. Opinions are subjective, however. That they are held particularly fervently doesn't make them any more or less true. They're still opinions.

[Dexter]

It is inferior.

I don't think they're inferior because of their priorities. I think if the United States became truly nationalist and emulated some of what Sweden/Denmark does we would put the rest of the world to shame when it comes to education and other factors. I think we'd be unstoppable.

[Dexter]

Truth is not, by definition, subjective. Opinions are subjective, however. That they are held particularly fervently doesn't make them any more or less true. They're still opinions.

Sometimes there is no definitive truth, only different ways of interpreting reality.

[LMAO]

A lot of people from that generation still struggled obviously. I think on average it was a lot easier to find financial success back then. I think those of you that struggled back then would find it even more difficult these days.

I’ve stumbled onto the problem

You have a lot of “I think” in your posts. We’ve lived your life.  You haven’t lived ours yet.  What I mean is, many of us have already been your age. You haven’t been our age yet. It has never been expected that you’re in your peak earning years while young.

As you get older and experience more of life you may look back at these posts and think “wow I can’t believe I really believed that” 

[Dexter]

I’ve stumbled onto the problem

You have a lot of “I think” in your posts. We’ve lived your life.  You haven’t lived ours yet.  What I mean is, many of us have already been your age. You haven’t been our age yet. It has never been expected that you’re in your peak earning years while young.

As you get older and experience more of life you may look back at these posts and think “wow I can’t believe I really believed that” 

You don't understand the struggles of young people as well as you think you do. Things have changed. You could argue that it was just as hard for you, but you absolutely don't know what's it's like to be a young person today. You have not lived their life. All generations struggle, but it comes to finances the millennials are struggling extra hard, and I don't believe it's all their fault.

[mountaineer]

“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.”
― Calvin Coolidge

[Cyber Liberty]

A lot of people from that generation still struggled obviously. I think on average it was a lot easier to find financial success back then. I think those of you that struggled back then would find it even more difficult these days.

It was pretty hard back when, too.  When I was a Disk Jockey in radio, I was always hand-to-mouth.  I decided I hated poverty, and to improve myself I got a Technical degree, then went into R&D.  Only then did things start improving.  BTW, I paid every penny of that degree, nobody gave it to me.  Now I am retiring with a clean conscience.

Would I find it more difficult today?  I don't know.  If it is, I'd blame policies that have cut the bottom rungs off that ladder, not the generations that came before me.

[Dexter]

Would I find it more difficult today?  I don't know.  If it is, I'd blame policies that have cut the bottom rungs off that ladder, not the generations that came before me.

Who made those decisions if not the generations that preceded the millennials? I know none of you are personally responsible. The main thing for me is that things are harder than they were then. We should not be regressing. We're losing ground while China and Europe gain ground. We should be widening the gap between us and the rest of the world.

[RoosGirl]

Truth is not, by definition, subjective. Opinions are subjective, however. That they are held particularly fervently doesn't make them any more or less true. They're still opinions.

I read an article not long ago, maybe psted here, about how schools have stopped teaching the difference between fqct and opinion.

[Cyber Liberty]

Who made those decisions if not the generations that preceded the millennials? I know none of you are personally responsible. The main thing for me is that things are harder than they were then. We should not be regressing. We're losing ground while China and Europe gain ground. We should be widening the gap between us and the rest of the world.

If it's harder, it's because government made it so with things like Minimum Wage.  Look to Democrats buying the votes of the people with other peoples money for the cause of the current state of affairs.

I asked Pat Paulson once about younger people struggling to break into the comedy biz, and he said, "F*** 'em.  I'm here because I paid my dues, so can they."

[txradioguy]

It was pretty hard back when, too.  When I was a Disk Jockey in radio, I was always hand-to-mouth. 

It still is if you're in a small enough market.  I always said I needed my Army retirement to be able to afford to be a DJ.

[Dexter]

BTW, I paid every penny of that degree, nobody gave it to me.  Now I am retiring with a clean conscience.

My degree is paid for too. I still want to put future young people ahead. I hope that by the time I leave this Earth young Americans are living in a world that is beyond wonder.

[Dexter]

I read an article not long ago, maybe psted here, about how schools have stopped teaching the difference between fqct and opinion.

A lot less things are literal facts than you might assume. It's important to be able to tell the difference. A lot of times there are multiple takes on reality and you can't really call any one of them factually correct or not.

[Cyber Liberty]

My degree is paid for too. I still want to put future young people ahead. I hope that by the time I leave this Earth young people are living in a world that is beyond wonder.

The best way to help young people is to restore the bottom rungs of the financial ladder, not issue them College Degrees paid for by workers that don't have College Degrees.

[musiclady]

You don't understand the struggles of young people as well as you think you do. Things have changed. You could argue that it was just as hard for you, but you absolutely don't know what's it's like to be a young person today. You have not lived their life. All generations struggle, but it comes to finances the millennials are struggling extra hard, and I don't believe it's all their fault.

The key difference is that we SEE what your lives are, and we HEAR what you're saying, and we KNOW how much your generation whines even though it has it easy financially.

All you know of our lives is what you have been told by the socialists who want you to believe their propaganda.

On this thread you are getting actual experiences from people who have struggled in youth in order to succeed later in life, and you are dismissing it all out of hand, and refusing to learn from any of it.

The presumption you have that you know more than all of us, and can ignore our collective experience is problematic.  Yes, it proves that you are stubborn in your conviction, but it also seems that you are unteachable when it comes to the reality of what life was like before you were born, or at least cognizant of what was going on.

What I find ironic is that you have only talked about finances, and have not talked about where millennials really have it tough, and that is in fighting the cultural demands to live immoral lives and use alcohol and drugs to maintain some kind of faux happiness, while putting yourselves and your health at great risk.

Culturally, you DO struggle more than we did when America had standards of behavior that made allowed us to be safer and happier.

[Cyber Liberty]

It still is if you're in a small enough market.  I always said I needed my Army retirement to be able to afford to be a DJ.

Same here.  But...now that I've retired I've sorta burned out on music....

[txradioguy]

I wouldn't say we're ahead in education, but alright. Let's widen the gap even more then.

Then you aren't paying attention to the advances and discoveries that come out of our colleges and universities.

Yeah, that sucks.

But it was their choice and actions have consequences.  If more people were taught that lesson or learned it the hard way we wouldn't have a generation scared of it's own shadow and wanting the government to give them everything without any effort being put forth on their part.

[LMAO]

You don't understand the struggles of young people as well as you think you do. Things have changed. You could argue that it was just as hard for you, but you absolutely don't know what's it's like to be a young person today. You have not lived their life. All generations struggle, but it comes to finances the millennials are struggling extra hard, and I don't believe it's all their fault.

This post sounds eerily similar to a teenager upset that their parents “just don’t understand me.”
You also seem to very tenaciously hold onto some idea of victimhood.
I’ve worked low-paying jobs. I had a hefty student loan when I got out of college. I had to take a second job while my wife was on her maternity leaves. There were times in my younger years and when I was just starting out that I had to juggle payments and look for deals.  I experienced one lay off before I gained enough seniority.

I’m not arguing that young people today have it easy. That would be me sounding like the guy who claims he had to walk through 3 feet of snow in bare feet to get the school when he was young. It’s  really never been easy starting in life. In the animal kingdom, when the baby animal leaves his mother, it’s struggles to find food and safety until it learns.

[txradioguy]

I asked Pat Paulson once about younger people struggling to break into the comedy biz, and he said, "F*** 'em.  I'm here because I paid my dues, so can they."

@Cyber Liberty and therein lies one of the biggest problems we see today.  In a society where everyone gets a trophy and no one loses and everyone is a "winner"...no one is willing to pay their dues in order to gain success. No one is willing to start in the mail room anymore.  They automatically want the corner office on the top floor.

Because they think they deserve it.