More millennials are moving back home - and it's making everyone depressed:

[mirraflake]

Young people don't struggle like they do here in places like Sweden.

Read this. Young people struggle in Sweden. 

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-bad-things-about-Sweden

@Dexter

[catfish1957]

Yet it's still expected a lot of the time, and a lot of young people are suffering a lot because of it. Young people work ridiculously hard. Suggesting otherwise is an insult.

Before I retired about 6 years ago, about 1/3 - 1/2 of my 70-80 person department at a petrochemical manufacturing facility were millennials.

First hand, I can say you either left the sarcasm tag off, or this was a spectacular joke. 
When you can get their thumbs off their electronic devices, they are mostly entitlement driven, and expect promotions and accolades for just doing the bare minimum.   Provide candid feedback?  Feelings are hurt.  Ask to do extra?  What's in it for me.

IF that's an insult to you so be it.  And I doubt much has changed in the past 6 years.

[Sanguine]

I've enjoyed this thread.  Except for a few cases of unnecessary snark and personal attacks, it's been a good, rousing exchange of ideas.   

[Cyber Liberty]

I've enjoyed this thread.  Except for a few cases of unnecessary snark and personal attacks, it's been a good, rousing exchange of ideas.   

 

[Sanguine]

No, seriously.  I said it and meant it.  There have been a lot of facts, arguments and anecdotes presented here and it was very refreshing for a change, instead of the usual "you're a poopy head and so is your mother" kind of stuff.

[LMAO]

You haven't a clue why or how you have access to the cool shit you do.  But after reading your posts, no worries, you won't have it for long @Dexter

I chalk it up to youth and inexperience. When you are young, there is that youthful  desire to change the world.  As you get older, you start realizing you can’t implement your world vision upon other people. I would say my best teacher in life has been time and experience.

 I suppose that one time when I was young I believed everything  should be “free.”   Then I became a taxpayer.,... lol.

[Cyber Liberty]

If so great why do they have some of the highest suicide rates in the world? I actually know a few Swedes on FB through my hobby. They all want to come and live in the US.

@Dexter

@mirraflake 

I used to have a Bookface friend from Netherlands.  He would never come here, he's terrified of a country this size awash in guns.  I told him he'd really hate AZ...lol.  I tolerated his hoplophobia, but when he went on a tear about artwork being the property of the artist's country (even if commissioned or sold to a private collector) I had to unfriend him.  He said artwork belongs in museums for everybody to enjoy, not on some rich shit's walls.  I told him maybe he'd be better off hanging with poor people.

Interestingly enough, he vacationed in the Philippines.   

[Cyber Liberty]

No, seriously.  I said it and meant it.  There have been a lot of facts, arguments and anecdotes presented here and it was very refreshing for a change, instead of the usual "you're a poopy head and so is your mother" kind of stuff.

I think it has been too.  But...I threw probably more than my share of snark on this thread.

 

[sneakypete]

Who raised these millennials? I don’t feel sorry for their parents.

@goodwithagun

The publik skools and facebook.

Group hug! Group hug!

[sneakypete]

If their parents didn't equip them with the necessary life skills to survive on their own it's very much the parents fault.

If the millennials are the type that's too lazy to get off their X Box or playstation to get a job and do nothing to help around the house...it's very much the fault of the lazy 20 something.

@txradioguy

I very much disagree. That is the fault of their parents,also. They need to start parenting by taking away their children's toys and quit making excuses for them.

I maintain that IN GENERAL you are what your parents raised you to be,both good and bad,right up to about age 25. After 25 it's all on you.

[Dexter]

We're already ahead of the rest of the world without free college tuition.

I wouldn't say we're ahead in education, but alright. Let's widen the gap even more then.

And besies a college educations isn't the end all be all Gold Standard people think it is.

No but it's the right path for a lot of young people.

THere's lots of people working hourly wages because they have their "degree" but its in some obscure area that won't get them a job in the real world.

Yeah, that sucks.

Public education before the unions and the PC police got involved was just fine.

I'm a product of public education and the difference in what is was and what it's become is clear in how your getting your little socialist butt handed to you in this debate.

 

[sneakypete]

On the other hand, I look at it as,  when your kids pay rent, that transfers your family wealth to some other family.  Economically, it makes more sense to live at home sometimes, especially if it allows your kids to save the money to invest in.  And there's a tremendous advantage to start investing in your 20s, than waiting until your 30s.

Asians understand this concept, and that's why they are taking over.

@dfwgator

Can't argue with what works,until it doesn't work. It doesn't work for most families because most families don't even try to raise their children with a work ethnic,never mind help them plan for a future. In the typical Asian family,most things are shared. In the typical American family damn near nothing is ever shared.

[Dexter]

I actually know a few Swedes on FB through my hobby. They all want to come and live in the US.

That's weird. Some of the Swedes I know are afraid to even visit here because they don't want to risk getting hurt and having to go to one of our hospitals.

The United States ranks 13th in happiness according to the World Health Organization, coming in behind every Scandinavian country and a few others. We should be number 1.

[musiclady]

@Dexter - when you came back to posting on TBR, you said you had learned a lot here, and were disenchanted with the Democrat party and being moved toward conservatism.

On this thread you have been given factual information and anecdotal material that disproves your feeling that you millennials have things worse than previous generations have had it.  The truth is that the majority of young people believe (because they have been indoctrinated into being socialists, as you clearly have) that this country owes them comfort and ease.

You believe that lie, and that's where your entire premise falls apart.  You do not have it tougher.  You just want your life to be struggle-free.

You, for the most part, remain civil, and you have had multiple older, wiser, and more experienced Briefers here give you information that should help lead you to the truth........ IF you actually are interested in the truth.

Go back and reread this thread, and consider all the advice you have been given, and the real-life experiences and factual data provided, and then, as a Democrat, consider the words of JFK who said, "Ask not what this country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country," and remember that the Democrat party has not always been socialist/communist as it is today, and that the young people of a few decades ago didn't actually expect America to take care of them, but expected to work hard and help America instead.

This is what the majority of your generation, in your selfishness, are missing.

Take heed.

[Dexter]

Read this. Young people struggle in Sweden. 

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-bad-things-about-Sweden

@Dexter

Quora is the equivalent of Yahoo Answers. All young people everywhere face different kinds of adversity. Young people over there definitely don't struggle as much as they do here.

[mountaineer]

The United States ranks 13th in happiness according to the World Health Organization, coming in behind every Scandinavian country and a few others. We should be number 1.

Happiness cannot be created by government decree or program, even free college.
It's up to the individual - like everything else we've been trying to explain to you.

[Dexter]

No, seriously.  I said it and meant it.  There have been a lot of facts, arguments and anecdotes presented here and it was very refreshing for a change, instead of the usual "you're a poopy head and so is your mother" kind of stuff.

Even if we all still believe the same exact things we believed when we started we can all still grow from good exchanges.

[Dexter]

I chalk it up to youth and inexperience. When you are young, there is that youthful  desire to change the world.  As you get older, you start realizing you can’t implement your world vision upon other people. I would say my best teacher in life has been time and experience.

 I suppose that one time when I was young I believed everything  should be “free.”   Then I became a taxpayer.,... lol.

We can absolutely make this nation better for the majority. And I bet we could cut our taxes while we're at it. It's gross that we could probably do what these Scandinavian countries are doing just with our waste.

[LMAO]

That's weird. Some of the Swedes I know are afraid to even visit here because they don't want to risk getting hurt and having to go to one of our hospitals.

The United States ranks 13th in happiness according to the World Health Organization, coming in behind every Scandinavian country and a few others. We should be number 1.

 The USSR use to make the same claim that theit people were the happiest and healthiest in the world.

We had a doctor that was doing some exchange from Switzerland several years ago in the hospital I work at. She just could not believe how Americans  “over treat “ people. People in Europe tend to believe things about America that are not entirely true. They think America is a dangerous place when actually most of America is relatively safe except for a few inner cities

[Cyber Liberty]

Happiness cannot be created by government decree or program, even free college.
It's up to the individual - like everything else we've been trying to explain to you.

My happiness always came from a job well done.  When I became obsolete in my R&D gig at NXP, I was just as happy to retire.

[Dexter]

@mirraflake 

I used to have a Bookface friend from Netherlands.  He would never come here, he's terrified of a country this size awash in guns.  I told him he'd really hate AZ...lol.  I tolerated his hoplophobia, but when he went on a tear about artwork being the property of the artist's country (even if commissioned or sold to a private collector) I had to unfriend him.  He said artwork belongs in museums for everybody to enjoy, not on some rich shit's walls.  I told him maybe he'd be better off hanging with poor people.

Interestingly enough, he vacationed in the Philippines.   

A lot of Europeans admire us and our greatness, but I don't think most of them would move here. The average person has a much better time over there.

[LMAO]

We can absolutely make this nation better for the majority.

Your vision of a “better place” may be a lot different than someone else’s. Never assume you know what’s best for individuals

The American economy is the largest in the world. In fact, we drive the world economy. We lead the world in healthcare research and innovation. Our “poor” are the envy of the world. In fact, we still have enough capitalism that  the market can meet many of the needs of the poor

[Cyber Liberty]

We can absolutely make this nation better for the majority. And I bet we could cut our taxes while we're at it. It's gross that we could probably do what these Scandinavian countries are doing just with our waste.

We can, government can't without screwing somebody.

[Dexter]

I think it has been too.  But...I threw probably more than my share of snark on this thread.

 

[Cyber Liberty]

A lot of Europeans admire us and our greatness, but I don't think most of them would move here. The average person has a much better time over there.

I can understand that.  Most Americans I know don't want to be "average."