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Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« on: October 11, 2018, 03:23:29 pm »
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President Trump tried Wednesday to persuade his fellow Republicans to raise the gas tax. In a closed-door meeting on infrastructure with members of both parties, Trump pitched the idea of a 25-cent increase in the gas tax, which hasn’t been raised since 1993. There’s a growing rift among Republicans about whether it’s worth considering a tax hike to fund much-needed upgrades to America’s roads and bridges.

“To my surprise, President Trump, today in our meeting, offered his support for raising the gas and diesel tax by 25 cents a gallon and dedicating that money to improve our roads, highways and bridges,” said Sen. Thomas R. Carper (D-Del.),.....


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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 03:26:31 pm »
So I'm going to have to take the word of a smelly Rat in a closed door meeting about Trump saying this? I'll pass.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2018, 03:37:34 pm »
And if he does in fact support this idea - watch the Trump fans explain to us simpletons how this is a good and Conservative thing for him to do, regardless of how wasted the monies collected for the existing gas tax is.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2018, 03:39:58 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on October 11, 2018, 03:37:34 pm
And if he does in fact support this idea - watch the Trump fans explain to us simpletons how this is a good and Conservative thing for him to do, regardless of how wasted the monies collected for the existing gas tax is.

Right. I guess it doesn't matter that this is from a Communist website quoting a Communist that this happened.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2018, 03:41:57 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 11, 2018, 03:39:58 pm
Right. I guess it doesn't matter that this is from a Communist website quoting a Communist that this happened.

I sure hope you are right.  Nothing like killing the big Mo with a stunt like that.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2018, 03:49:06 pm »
    Damn, Is it Infrastructure week, already?
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2018, 03:52:14 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on October 11, 2018, 03:37:34 pm
And if he does in fact support this idea - watch the Trump fans explain to us simpletons how this is a good and Conservative thing for him to do, regardless of how wasted the monies collected for the existing gas tax is.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2018, 04:01:51 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on October 11, 2018, 03:41:57 pm
I sure hope you are right.  Nothing like killing the big Mo with a stunt like that.

The effing title doesn't even add up with what Carpface is claiming Trump said. That is my first sign this is a bunch of bullshit to excite malcontents and slow thinkers.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2018, 04:04:41 pm »
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In a closed-door meeting on infrastructure with members of both parties...

Is it Infrastructure Week again?


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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2018, 04:07:49 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 11, 2018, 03:26:31 pm
So I'm going to have to take the word of a smelly Rat in a closed door meeting about Trump saying this? I'll pass.

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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2018, 04:26:03 pm »
Trump and Beto O'Rourke with the same gasoline tax plan?

Qh, boy...............

Hopefully, the article, just misspelled O'Rourke.

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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2018, 04:29:36 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 11, 2018, 04:01:51 pm
The effing title doesn't even add up with what Carpface is claiming Trump said. That is my first sign this is a bunch of bullshit to excite malcontents and slow thinkers.

You think Cavuto is a slow thinker?

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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2018, 04:31:52 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on October 11, 2018, 03:41:57 pm
I sure hope you are right.  Nothing like killing the big Mo with a stunt like that.

Trump's negotiating style should be familiar to anyone paying attention by now. "Everything's on the table" at the outset. I'll wait to see what actually pans out.

Of course the rat media will try to spin it as advantageously as possible leading up to the election.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2018, 04:33:42 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on October 11, 2018, 04:29:36 pm
You think Cavuto is a slow thinker?

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That shit is from a year and a half ago.

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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2018, 04:34:46 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 11, 2018, 04:33:42 pm
That shit is from a year and a half ago.


Yeah, but you making this issue out like it's nothing but liberal blather.   Trump has actually proposed it.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2018, 04:38:15 pm »
A 25¢ Federal tax per gallon of gas is NOT new news:

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Trump backs 25-cent-a-gallon gasoline tax hike: senator

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump endorsed hiking the federal gasoline tax by 25 cents a gallon in a meeting with lawmakers on Wednesday about funding his infrastructure spending proposal

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Trump says he backs 25-cent gas tax hike to pay for infrastructure
Sen. Tom Carper (Del.), the top Democrat on the Environment and Public Works Committee, was in the meeting and confirmed in a statement that the president backed a 25-cent increase.

“President Trump came back to the idea of a 25 cent increase several times throughout the meeting,” Carper said in a statement.

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Trump urges GOP to consider a 25-cent hike in the gas tax

President Trump tried Wednesday to persuade his fellow Republicans to raise the gas tax. In a closed-door meeting on infrastructure with members of both parties, Trump pitched the idea of a 25-cent increase in the gas tax, which hasn't been raised since 1993.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2018, 04:47:58 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on October 11, 2018, 04:34:46 pm

Yeah, but you making this issue out like it's nothing but liberal blather.   Trump has actually proposed it.

Maybe thats so, but its not at all clear in this writing. The article itself is carefully worded and does not support the headline. Even the link supposedly supporting the narrative is based upon a 'source requesting anonymity'.

It may turn out to be true, its just that we've seen this same bullsh*t tactic used by the media so many times before.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2018, 04:50:34 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on October 11, 2018, 04:34:46 pm

Yeah, but you making this issue out like it's nothing but liberal blather.   Trump has actually proposed it.

He also proposed an intergalactic military force. He proposes lots of shit. Most of it goes nowhere. This article is claiming his is actively pushing this. I don't see it. That's why this rumor is relegated to some Communist rag.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2018, 04:58:10 pm »

This could be his way of making them face that they can raise taxes or reduce spending. They are certainly not getting that message on their own.

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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2018, 05:00:34 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 11, 2018, 04:50:34 pm
He proposes lots of shit. Most of it goes nowhere.

A perfect description of his presidency.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2018, 05:00:56 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on October 11, 2018, 04:38:15 pm
A 25¢ Federal tax per gallon of gas is NOT new news:

Won't matter to some people @INVAR anything like this will always be dismissed no matter what the source.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2018, 05:06:41 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on October 11, 2018, 03:37:34 pm
And if he does in fact support this idea - watch the Trump fans explain to us simpletons how this is a good and Conservative thing for him to do, regardless of how wasted the monies collected for the existing gas tax is.

It is a good and Conservative thing to pay for needed things, rather than just increasing the deficit.     

It is good and Conservative thing to maintain roads and bridges for the benefit of the national economy.

It is a good and Conservative thing for needed infrastructure to be paid for by the folks who use and directly benefit from that infrastructure.

I support a reasonable increase in the gas tax, provided the funds are dedicated to the repair of infrastructure used by motor vehicles, and that contractors are not limited by artificial rules benefiting unions that unnecessarily inflate costs.   
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2018, 05:07:19 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on October 11, 2018, 05:00:34 pm
A perfect description of his presidency.

Yeah I know. You liked Obama and Bush better. Don't worry. After 2024 you might yet again see another Progressive war manger in the WH again. Keep the faith.
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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2018, 05:15:32 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on October 11, 2018, 05:06:41 pm
It is a good and Conservative thing to pay for needed things, rather than just increasing the deficit.     

It is good and Conservative thing to maintain roads and bridges for the benefit of the national economy.

It is a good and Conservative thing for needed infrastructure to be paid for by the folks who use and directly benefit from that infrastructure.

I support a reasonable increase in the gas tax, provided the funds are dedicated to the repair of infrastructure used by motor vehicles, and that contractors are not limited by artificial rules benefiting unions that unnecessarily inflate costs.   

And there's nothing conservative about raising taxes on gasoline to allegedly pay for something the money will never get to.

Oh and by the way:

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Federal taxes include excises taxes of 18.3 cents per gallon on gasoline and 24.3 cents per gallon on diesel fuel, and a Leaking Underground Storage Tank fee of 0.1 cents per gallon on both fuels. State taxes include rates of general application including, but not limited to, excise taxes, environmental taxes, special taxes, and inspection fees, but exclude state taxes based on gross or net receipts. State taxes do not include county and local taxes. This information is for general informational purposes only.

8.2.1. Federal excise tax rates on motor fuels and lubricating oil
8.2.3. State tax rates on motor fuel
8.4.6 State tax rates on motor fuel

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How much more do you think is "enough" taxes on people?

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Re: Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2018, 05:20:19 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on October 11, 2018, 05:15:32 pm


How much more do you think is "enough" taxes on people?

Whatever is needed to fund the legitimate costs of government.   Do you seriously contend that roads and bridges don't need to be maintained?    You want the goodies but don't want to pay the taxes.  That is neither responsible nor conservative.   
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