Ted Cruz Finally Shuts The Door On The Bad Blood Controversy Between He And Trump

[Sanguine]

BTW it was a "Trumpster" who cared enough about the race in Texas to start the live thread for the Cruz/Beto debate on Friday and post a video of the debate for those who missed it.

So please, @libertybele you and others need to stop smearing with such a broad brush.  Thanks.

Yes, it was and thank you, RIV.  It is unfortunate that these few members continue to spread these lies and remind us of the unpleasantness of the campaign.  We particularly need to be forward focused and continue to fight the right fight.

[TomSea]

BTW it was a "Trumpster" who cared enough about the race in Texas to start the live thread for the Cruz/Beto debate on Friday and post a video of the debate for those who missed it.

So please, @libertybele you and others need to stop smearing with such a broad brush.  Thanks.

Ant-trumpers are not part of the great pluses that the Trump movement has made regarding the right to life issue.  As the Fonz use to say, "Go Sit On It" to these cynics.

[libertybele]

   The very first question of the first GOP debate all 17 candidates on stage was asked by Bret Baire if they would eventually support the nominee, regardless of who he/she was, all answered in the affirmative except for one, wanna guess?

ummm.... Jeb!   

[corbe]

ummm.... Jeb!   

    Clue #2:  The aforementioned person skipped the second debate cause Megan was bleeding out of everywhere.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Yes, it was and thank you, RIV.  It is unfortunate that these few members continue to spread these lies and remind us of the unpleasantness of the campaign. 

Are you referencing @TomSea and @jpsb ?

[Silver Pines]

@bilo   Yes.  Why won't these NTers give up their petty grievances and focus on the real and frightening enemy.  As you say, it's become a violent, socialist left that glorifies every perversion available to man, woman, or IT.

And stops at nothing to gain their ends.  Just look at this ridiculous delay on the Kavanaugh vote engineered by DiFi and a willing accomplice.

@Emjay

What does this mean, though—giving up grievances and focusing on the enemy?  Does it mean we should stop criticizing Trump?  Make only positive comments about him?  Because that’s sort of the way TOS operates.

Also, how do the posts of some people on an internet forum affect Trump, or his agenda, or the left in any way?

I’ve asked this question many times of Trump fans here, and I’ve yet to get a reply.  Maybe today will be the first time.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Ant-trumpers are not part of the great pluses that the Trump movement has made regarding the right to life issue.  As the Fonz use to say, "Go Sit On It" to these cynics.

I can't believe you're bringing the Fonz into this.  low blow man.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yes, it was and thank you, RIV.  It is unfortunate that these few members continue to spread these lies and remind us of the unpleasantness of the campaign.  We particularly need to be forward focused and continue to fight the right fight.

I find it difficult to understand why some people feel compelled to continue smearing Cruz two years after he was vanquished by Trump.  There isn't one molecule of constructiveness in this continued bashing.

Just can't accept a win, the loser must be totally destroyed, even if it costs a badly needed seat in TX.  Exactly as I predicted two years ago.  Good going, you-know-who-you-are.

Final note to the aforementioned Briefers:  If you are stuck on the notion that Cruz is the most vicious of liars, why on earth are you urging Texans to return such a low-life to the Senate?  One would think that if he's such a filthy lair, why aren't you touting Beto?

[Sanguine]

Are you referencing @TomSea and @jpsb ?

No, I was talking about you. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Are you referencing @TomSea and @jpsb ?

I'd guess they know who they are, if they have one gram of self-awareness.

[Cyber Liberty]

No, I was talking about you.

Some are more self-aware than others.

[corbe]

   For the record I am equally pissed at Cruz for voting for that bloated budget last week and Trump for signing it.

[Sanguine]

Some are more self-aware than others.

 

[Sanguine]

   For the record I am equally pissed at Cruz for voting for that bloated budget last week and Trump for signing it.

Was that the one that paid for the military and legislature?  It wasn't the whole bloat was it?

[Formerly Once-Ler]

You're on a roll...

[Cyber Liberty]

You're on a roll...

Yes, @Sanguine is good.  I often ping her to come check on my own sanity.

[jpsb]

You are the one who chose to put the racy picture of Melania up here.  I really like Melania and I really resent anyone resurrecting that picture.

@Emjay

I did not want to post that ad, but you forced me to when you said Ted would never do that. His
campaign manager secured the copy rights to that pic and then Ted campaign surrogates used it.

The fact is that ad started a very nasty part of the primaries. Hit Trump and you can expect to be
hit back. FYI I am not attacking Cruz as much as I am defending Trump. If the Cruzers would just
stop blaming Trump for all the bad blood I would not be forced to defend Trump.

[DCPatriot]

Bullshit @DCPatriot
Do you really think this is about 'personal rivalries and hurt feelings'?
Is there any reason to call me here other than to waste my time?

*  When @INVAR told us ow much he hated...er, excuse me, "disliked" Donald Trump, from Day 1 ..."hate" was verboten at the time in order to keep NT heads from exploding...I told him in no uncertain terms to take his withheld vote and stick it up his ass.

**  From that day forward he keeps reminding us that he was told he wasn't needed, so we can all GTH...while he sits on the sidelines salivating each time the media poses forward another negative item about the President.  Hoping for his "I tried to tell you all!  Look how smart and superior I am".

*** @roamer_1   You, OTOH, chose your 'weapon' early on.  You found a brother in Invar. 

Your moral standard, of which I'm sure you live 24/7/365 the best you know how, is unrealistic for most people, let alone a self-made billionaire from Queens, NY.

A billionaire who recognizes the wisdom of trickle down economics.  One who recognizes you have to take pics and donate to people who you wouldn't play golf with on a regular basis.

But a tip-of-the-cap to you roamer...despite the overwhelming evidence to support his accomplishments/efforts to roll back destructive Obama policies, you too state you'll do it from the sidelines because there's not a nickel's worth of difference between the two parties.

And that's the crux of where you get 'thrown off the island'.  No matter how engaging, no one should take seriously, anyone who STILL won't acknowledge the stark differences between the Republican and Democrat parties.   

I never disliked Ted Cruz.  Had he won, I'd have supported him just like I did McCain and Romney.

But I knew nobody stood a chance against Donald Trump.  From any party.

And just as I suspected as evidenced by this thread...there is still a lot of tension between the primary factions... three years on.

[TomSea]

The important thing in the big picture is to win the Presidency, I didn't think Trump would though gave him my support.

Cruz did not win anywhere in the nation's largest area of Conservatism, the Deep South, no Georgia like Newt got, no Mississippi, no South Carolina, not even Louisiana. That did not bode well for a general election, sure, he would still probably nab that area in the general. I'm not counting his homestate in this nor neighboring Oklahoma.

All indications are, we may be working with a Romney 2012 situation, btw, Ted endorsed Mitt. Another point I note, some Cruz-ers are not in accordance with.

[TomSea]

@Emjay

I did not want to post that ad, but you forced me to when you said Ted would never do that. His
campaign manager secured the copy rights to that pic and then Ted campaign surrogates used it.

The fact is that ad started a very nasty part of the primaries. Hit Trump and you can expect to be
hit back. FYI I am not attacking Cruz as much as I am defending Trump. If the Cruzers would just
stop blaming Trump for all the bad blood I would not be forced to defend Trump.

I wouldn't think twice about it. It's not character assassination, it's not bringing in things off-topic to stir things up as some people have done.

[Sanguine]

The important thing in the big picture is to win the Presidency, I didn't think Trump would though gave him my support.

Cruz did not win anywhere in the nation's largest area of Conservatism, the Deep South, no Georgia like Newt got, no Mississippi, no South Carolina, not even Louisiana. That did not bode well for a general election, sure, he would still probably nab that area in the general. I'm not counting his homestate in this nor neighboring Oklahoma.

All indications are, we may be working with a Romney 2012 situation, btw, Ted endorsed Mitt. Another point I note, some Cruz-ers are not in accordance with.

Not sure what you're trying to say here, Tom, but bottom line - quite with the untruths and we're fine.  Dredging up old lies doesn't benefit anyone and makes the dredger look less than honest.

[Sanguine]

Yes, @Sanguine is good.  I often ping her to come check on my own sanity.

You are one of the sanest among us. 

[corbe]

@Sanguine

Headed into tough re-election, Cruz sides with GOP leaders on big spending bill

By Andrea Drusch
September 18, 2018 03:44 PM 

 Texas Sen. Ted Cruz on Tuesday broke with Senate conservatives to support a government funding bill that provides a boost in defense spending — along with money for public broadcasting, Head Start programs and the operation of Obamacare.

The move is out of character for Cruz, who five years ago orchestrated a government shutdown in the name of defunding Obamacare.

Just two months ago Cruz boasted that he’d voted against Congress’s then-most recent major spending bill, which he said included the “single biggest rebuilding of our military since Ronald Reagan,” at the expense of “a massive increase in non-defense spending.”

Now Cruz is in the midst of a tougher-than-expected re-election race, where GOP leaders, including a super PAC aligned with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky plan to help him.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article218608365.html#storylink=cpy

[Emjay]

@Emjay

What does this mean, though—giving up grievances and focusing on the enemy?  Does it mean we should stop criticizing Trump?  Make only positive comments about him?  Because that’s sort of the way TOS operates.

Also, how do the posts of some people on an internet forum affect Trump, or his agenda, or the left in any way?

I’ve asked this question many times of Trump fans here, and I’ve yet to get a reply.  Maybe today will be the first time.

@CatherineofAragon   Of course not and I have never said that.  I was disgusted because the thread had disintegrated into vicious and unrealistic attacks on Ted Cruz, who is a good man and one of my favorites.

As for the posts on this forum, they have no effect on the real world but do provide a glimpse of how various Republicans (or people who swear they will never vote Republican) feel.

[Sanguine]

@Emjay

I did not want to post that ad, but you forced me to when you said Ted would never do that. His
campaign manager secured the copy rights to that pic and then Ted campaign surrogates used it.

The fact is that ad started a very nasty part of the primaries. Hit Trump and you can expect to be
hit back. FYI I am not attacking Cruz as much as I am defending Trump. If the Cruzers would just
stop blaming Trump for all the bad blood I would not be forced to defend Trump.

Not so, @jpsb. 

Again:

After a super PAC unrelated to Cruz published an ad using a suggestive photo of Trump’s wife, Melania, from GQ, Trump laid the blame on Cruz anyway.

“Lyin' Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a G.Q. shoot in his ad,” Trump tweeted Tuesday. “Be careful, Lyin' Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!”

While it remains unclear what “beans” Trump was referring to, he posted an image on his Twitter account Wednesday another user had tweeted insulting the appearance of Cruz’s wife, Heidi Cruz:

Cruz responded shortly afterward. He did not insult Trump’s wife in return:

Later, on Thursday, Cruz called Trump "a sniveling coward" and told him to "leave Heidi the hell alone."

That morning, Cruz’s campaign denounced the ad depicting Trump’s wife and stressed it had no affiliation with the super PAC Make America Awesome that created it....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/24/donald-trump-posted-photo-ted-heidi-cruz/82210692/

You need a new shtick.  This one is way past old.