Author Topic: Judicial Watch: Justice Department Discloses No FISA Court Hearings Held on Carter Page Warrants (Read 2131 times)

mrclose · « **on:** August 31, 2018, 08:47:41 pm »

â€˜[N]o such hearings were held with respect to the acknowledged FISA applications. Accordingly, no responsive hearing transcripts exist.â€™

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(Washington, DC) â€“ Judicial Watch today announced that in response to a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit, the Justice Department (DOJ) admitted in a court filing last night that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held no hearings on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) spy warrant applications targeting Carter Page, a former Trump campaign part-time advisor who was the subject of four controversial FISA warrants.

In the filing the Justice Department finally revealed that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held no hearings on the Page FISA spy warrants, first issued in 2016 and subsequently renewed three times:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-justice-department-discloses-no-fisa-court-hearings-held-on-carter-page-warrants/

Bigun · « **Reply #1 on:** August 31, 2018, 08:54:45 pm »

So it was just a rubber stamp thing? Why am I not surprised??

mrclose · « **Reply #2 on:** August 31, 2018, 08:56:43 pm »

Quote from: Bigun on August 31, 2018, 08:54:45 pm

So it was just a rubber stamp thing? Why am I not surprised??

FISA judge signed the warrant based solely on an informal representation by the FBI.

Without proper rigor, records and scrutiny.
Or any due process for this US citizen.

Bigun · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2018, 09:01:16 pm »

Quote from: mrclose on August 31, 2018, 08:56:43 pm

FISA judge signed the warrant based solely on an informal representation by the FBI.

Without proper rigor, records and scrutiny.
Or any due process for this US citizen.

@endicom

Yep! And I remain unsurprised. This whole thing STINKS beyond belief and not one damned thing is being done about it!

truth_seeker · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2018, 09:05:00 pm »

Of course nothing in this regard, falls within the AG's bailiwick.

Somebody suggested that Sessions was the "firewall" mentioned in the Strzok-Page tests or emails.

What a way to end an otherwise fine career.

Sessions is a laughiingstock, except it isn't funny.

bigheadfred · « **Reply #5 on:** August 31, 2018, 09:25:01 pm »

This should set a precedent.

mrclose · « **Reply #6 on:** August 31, 2018, 09:25:12 pm »

Quote from: Bigun on August 31, 2018, 09:01:16 pm

@endicom

Yep! And I remain unsurprised. This whole thing STINKS beyond belief and not one damned thing is being done about it!

@Bigun

Bigun, Is there any proof that there actually was a warrant ... or warrants?

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #7 on:** August 31, 2018, 09:34:27 pm »

Quote from: mrclose on August 31, 2018, 09:25:12 pm

@Bigun

Bigun, Is there any proof that there actually was a warrant ... or warrants?

I think so. There are documents with Judge's signatures that have been released. It's apparent the Judges didn't give it a single thought, and, as @Bigun says, just rubber-stamped them.

mrclose · « **Reply #8 on:** August 31, 2018, 09:59:40 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2018, 09:34:27 pm

I think so. There are documents with Judge's signatures that have been released. It's apparent the Judges didn't give it a single thought, and, as @Bigun says, just rubber-stamped them.

Remember this?

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The National Security Agency and FBI violated specific civil liberty protections during the Obama administration by improperly searching and disseminating raw intelligence on Americans or failing to promptly delete unauthorized intercepts, according to newly declassified memos that provide some of the richest detail to date on the spy agenciesâ€™ ability to obey their own rules.

The memos reviewed by The Hill were publicly released on July 11 through Freedom of Information Act litigation by the American Civil Liberties Union.

They detail specific violations that the NSA or FBI disclosed to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court or the Justice Department's national security division during President Obamaâ€™s tenure between 2009 and 2016.

https://www.instapaper.com/text?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Fnational-security%2F343785-newly-declassified-memos-detail-extent-of-improper-obama-era-nsa

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #9 on:** August 31, 2018, 10:03:55 pm »

@mrclose Ayup. Actually, into 2017. How many unmaskings did the Ambassador to the UN do in the weeks before 1/20/17?

LegalAmerican · « **Reply #10 on:** August 31, 2018, 10:05:07 pm »

All on congress. Most are not, for we the people. Controlled by deep state. The good ole' "Boy's club". Trump is NOT one.
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Published 11:09 AM ET Thu, 27 July 2017 Updated 1:58 PM ET Thu, 27 July 2017
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7:42 PM ET Thu, 27 July 2017 | 00:48

Sen. Lindsey Graham warned President Donald Trump on Thursday against firing his attorney general â€” the latest Republican to try to deter Trump from a move that would carry huge consequences for the U.S. government.

"If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay," the Republican from South Carolina told reporters, according to video taken by NBC News.

bigheadfred · « **Reply #11 on:** August 31, 2018, 10:16:05 pm »

Quote from: LegalAmerican on August 31, 2018, 10:05:07 pm

All on congress. Most are not, for we the people. Controlled by deep state. The good ole' "Boy's club". Trump is NOT one.
-----------------------------
Lindsey Graham: 'There will be holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Sessions

Lindsey Graham says "there will be holy hell to pay" if President Donald Trump fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
He also says that removing special counsel Robert Mueller without good reason would be "the beginning of the end" of Trump's presidency.

Jacob Pramuk | @jacobpramuk
Published 11:09 AM ET Thu, 27 July 2017 Updated 1:58 PM ET Thu, 27 July 2017
CNBC.com

Attorney General Jeff Sessions Lindsey Graham warns President Trump against firing Jeff Sessions
7:42 PM ET Thu, 27 July 2017 | 00:48

Sen. Lindsey Graham warned President Donald Trump on Thursday against firing his attorney general â€” the latest Republican to try to deter Trump from a move that would carry huge consequences for the U.S. government.

"If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay," the Republican from South Carolina told reporters, according to video taken by NBC News.

When it comes to Lindsay. When he dies they won't drop the flag to half mast. Nevermind. The rest of my thought would be MODified.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #12 on:** August 31, 2018, 10:22:38 pm »

Quote from: LegalAmerican on August 31, 2018, 10:05:07 pm

All on congress. Most are not, for we the people. Controlled by deep state. The good ole' "Boy's club". Trump is NOT one.
-----------------------------
Lindsey Graham: 'There will be holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Sessions

Lindsey Graham says "there will be holy hell to pay" if President Donald Trump fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
He also says that removing special counsel Robert Mueller without good reason would be "the beginning of the end" of Trump's presidency.

Jacob Pramuk | @jacobpramuk
Published 11:09 AM ET Thu, 27 July 2017 Updated 1:58 PM ET Thu, 27 July 2017
CNBC.com

Attorney General Jeff Sessions Lindsey Graham warns President Trump against firing Jeff Sessions
7:42 PM ET Thu, 27 July 2017 | 00:48

Sen. Lindsey Graham warned President Donald Trump on Thursday against firing his attorney general â€” the latest Republican to try to deter Trump from a move that would carry huge consequences for the U.S. government.

"If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay," the Republican from South Carolina told reporters, according to video taken by NBC News.

That may be the way it is, but it isn't the way it's supposed to be.

I support @bigheadfred's suggestion of placement of a pointy-toed boot.

endicom · « **Reply #13 on:** August 31, 2018, 11:02:19 pm »

Quote from: Bigun on August 31, 2018, 09:01:16 pm

@endicom

Yep! And I remain unsurprised. This whole thing STINKS beyond belief and not one damned thing is being done about it!

These judges must be just apparatchiki, functionaries. Probably most judges understand they work for the state and not the people.

endicom · « **Reply #14 on:** August 31, 2018, 11:03:46 pm »

Quote from: LegalAmerican on August 31, 2018, 10:05:07 pm

All on congress. Most are not, for we the people. Controlled by deep state. The good ole' "Boy's club". Trump is NOT one.
-----------------------------
Lindsey Graham: 'There will be holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Sessions

Lindsey Graham says "there will be holy hell to pay" if President Donald Trump fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
He also says that removing special counsel Robert Mueller without good reason would be "the beginning of the end" of Trump's presidency.

Jacob Pramuk | @jacobpramuk
Published 11:09 AM ET Thu, 27 July 2017 Updated 1:58 PM ET Thu, 27 July 2017
CNBC.com

Attorney General Jeff Sessions Lindsey Graham warns President Trump against firing Jeff Sessions
7:42 PM ET Thu, 27 July 2017 | 00:48

Sen. Lindsey Graham warned President Donald Trump on Thursday against firing his attorney general â€” the latest Republican to try to deter Trump from a move that would carry huge consequences for the U.S. government.

"If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay," the Republican from South Carolina told reporters, according to video taken by NBC News.

In his favor, Sessions was not yet AG when this came about.

Sanguine · « **Reply #15 on:** August 31, 2018, 11:43:29 pm »

Rubber stamp FISA. Wow.

mrclose · « **Reply #16 on:** September 01, 2018, 09:41:52 pm »

Quote from: Sanguine on August 31, 2018, 11:43:29 pm

Rubber stamp FISA. Wow.

@Sanguine

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Sanguine · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2018, 10:19:28 pm »

Quote from: mrclose on September 01, 2018, 09:41:52 pm

@Sanguine

@mrclose Tom Fitton and JW are doing incredible work right now. There is so much that we might only suspect or have never even heard of without the work they are doing. Talk about shining the light on the cockroaches...

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #18 on:** September 01, 2018, 10:26:31 pm »

Quote from: Sanguine on September 01, 2018, 10:19:28 pm

@mrclose Tom Fitton and JW are doing incredible work right now. There is so much that we might only suspect or have never even heard of without the work they are doing. Talk about shining the light on the cockroaches...

Bigun · « **Reply #19 on:** September 01, 2018, 11:06:26 pm »

Quote from: Sanguine on September 01, 2018, 10:19:28 pm

@mrclose Tom Fitton and JW are doing incredible work right now. There is so much that we might only suspect or have never even heard of without the work they are doing. Talk about shining the light on the cockroaches...

Absolutely! As are Sara Carter and John Soloman but they will pay the price for that!

Sanguine · « **Reply #20 on:** September 02, 2018, 03:17:58 am »

Quote from: Bigun on September 01, 2018, 11:06:26 pm

Absolutely! As are Sara Carter and John Soloman but they will pay the price for that!

Don't forget Kimberly Strassel.

Bigun · « **Reply #21 on:** September 02, 2018, 03:42:43 am »

Quote from: Sanguine on September 02, 2018, 03:17:58 am

Don't forget Kimberly Strassel.

Definitely not!

LegalAmerican · « **Reply #22 on:** September 02, 2018, 03:56:28 am »

Quote from: bigheadfred on August 31, 2018, 10:16:05 pm

When it comes to Lindsay. When he dies they won't drop the flag to half mast. Nevermind. The rest of my thought would be MODified.

I agree. It is said he and McCain were butt buddy's. Gang of Eight. Dems and all rino's.

LegalAmerican · « **Reply #23 on:** September 02, 2018, 04:00:03 am »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2018, 10:22:38 pm

That may be the way it is, but it isn't the way it's supposed to be.

I support @bigheadfred's suggestion of placement of a pointy-toed boot.

I totally agree. This is why, people want to drain the swamp.

LegalAmerican · « **Reply #24 on:** September 02, 2018, 04:01:47 am »

Quote from: endicom on August 31, 2018, 11:03:46 pm

In his favor, Sessions was not yet AG when this came about.

Did you make an error? Yes, he was. See the date.