Ann Coulter on Trump: 'I've never seen such a bad dealmaker'

[INVAR]

No one sold such a "meme", it exists only as the strawmen you hope to prop up.

No strawman at all, despite that is what you would like to spin the facts into.   The pages of TOS and social media sites that became Trump-Only groups were filled up page after page of essays and commentary that Trump was above mere mortals in the deal-making department and therefore only Trump could make deals with Congress that would benefit Conservatives. 

Never asserted...Trump and his supporters have been crystal clear that the help of the party and of his fellow conservatives is ESSENTIAL.

Either you are selectively forgetful or full of shit. I contend both. Trump said he did not need us to win.  He would 'win' disaffected Bernie supporters.

This is true ONLY if "our" refers to those who prefer Hillary, or who are NT's who'd rather see the nation fail then admit they were wrong about Trump...you know...like yourself. 

Talk about bogus memes and strawmen!

And the only thing I got wrong about Trump - was thinking he was going to fulfill his Stalking Horse role and take a fall in the 10th to submit to the crowning of Hildabeast.  I underestimated his ego-centric narcissism.

Its easy to get distracted by those in our party...and those who are supposedly conservative...who are undermining the cause of conservatism from within.

You did that yourself when you made a lifelong NYC liberal Democrat your Conservative standard-bearer.  Congrats.  You undermined that which you pay lip service to.

I personally put the lion's share of blame on the NT's (for our inner party conflicts) but would be glad to put that all behind us if folks could just move forward

Never going to happen.  I do not trust you lot for slitting our throats while we sleep in your camp.

You get to enjoy the consequences of making us your enemies. 

You're going to have better luck getting Bernie's people to join you as Trump shifts Left in order to get those euphoric and transient fleeting moments of 'winning'.

[Emjay]

I would agree that Trump has, at times, lost focus on who the real enemy is...as do I at times. As do we all. Its easy to get distracted by those in our party...and those who are supposedly conservative...who are undermining the cause of conservatism from within. But we should always remember that support for the President WITHIN the party is incredibly high...historically high. So he does need to keep his aim more focused on the Left...as does EVERYONE who believes in a conservative/libertarian future. We are all facing an approaching hurricane but we (conservatives/Republicans) are quibbling over the price of tea...and these inner struggles are devastating to OUR cause.

I personally put the lion's share of blame on the NT's (for our inner party conflicts) but would be glad to put that all behind us if folks could just move forward and except that we have an elected conservative...Republican...President who is out front fighting the approaching storm...with all his flaws and personal eccentricities. You don't win such a battle with the army you want, you win it with the one you've got. We got the NT's, the NT's got Trump...neither of us are pleased over this fact...but if both parties don't find a way to cooperate in fighting the approaching hellstorm, we will all be swept away. So let's all get Woke!

@Mesaclone   Hah!  I am literally facing an approaching hurricane but I don't think it will do as much damage as this Never Trump movement is doing.  I hope and agree that it is a small percentage of petulant crybabies that feel this way. 

I've been here since the election and I see a slight shift away from NTism.  Maybe I'm dreaming, but I see a more levelheaded view of Trump here lately. 

Clinton was far more of a sexual predator than Trump could even dream of, yet he maintained that good ole boy facade and got away with it better.

Some people think that electing a Republican means that they get all their personal issues solved and that done yesterday.  It doesn't.  There are differences within the party about issues like free trade and tariffs.  But I like the fact that Trump realizes and cares about America being treated fairly in the matter of trade.  His ideas may not all work but then again, they may, and he cares about it.

And there are naive people who thought a wall would magically arise if Trump were elected and are ticked off that it hasn't. 

I always say that 'The Wall' was real to Trump but also symbolic, in the sense that he saw the increasing danger in flagrant illegal immigration and wanted to do something about it.

The left has gone absolutely crazy in their support of illegals to the point that they dismiss the recent murder of the Tibbetts girl as unimportant compared to the greater problem of being unkind to illegals.  You can dredge up a heartbreaking story every day about some illegal who's been a good guy and is being heartlessly taken from his family and deported.  That good guy is a lawbreaker and the U.S. has been far kinder than any other country would have been (well until now)

The media has waged an all-out war on Trump, digging up insignificant little stories daily.  This is especially irritating in view of the fact that that same media literally gave us Obama.

Oh, well.  Trump has improved the economy and the job picture; he is fighting for common sense issues like getting out of the Paris Accord and he is on a mission to reduce and stop illegal immigration.

But, hey, he tweets, so let's get rid of him.

[Jazzhead]

@Jazzhead   Typically, you've missed the main points of @Mesaclone post.

You say Trump has presided over a booming economy as if it all just 'happened' while he was golfing or something.  You won't even acknowledge that Trump had a big part in that booming economy.

You continue to dwell on Trump's personality.  You continue to exaggerate his flaws and ignore his accomplishments.  People like you will be responsible if you align with the left and destroy Trump, and don't think you won't pay for it.

@Emjay,   you misunderstand.   I give President Trump (and the GOP Congress) full credit for the booming economy.  I want it to continue - and it will not if we put Nancy Pelosi back in charge of the House. 

You simply cannot ignore the reality that if the GOP loses this fall, it will not be because voters dislike the booming economy, it will be because they can no longer stand Trump's erratic brand of megalomania.   

Yes, his personality matters.  Yes, his incessant tweets matter.  Yes, the revolving door in the Executive Branch matters.   This is no way to run a Presidency.   Trump has got to change, and the time for doing so is running short.   If the GOP loses its majority, look for the impeachment circus to begin.   

You seem to suggest that I am the man's adversary.  To the contrary,  I am seeking to save him and the GOP, and advance the current prosperity and the return of Constitutionalism to our courts.   All of that is in jeopardy,  at a time of unrivaled prosperity and low unemployment.   It's crazy that this should be so.  And, let's face it, it is because the man at the helm appears to millions of us to be, well, crazy.   

[roamer_1]

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What meager pap.

[guitar4jesus]

What meager pap.

Aye.

[edpc]

Hah!  I am literally facing an approaching hurricane but I don't think it will do as much damage as this Never Trump movement is doing.

Yeah, they’re the source of all his problems.  There’s absolutely nothing self imposed.   

[Jazzhead]

For god's sake, if you can't stop fighting against our own Republican President...at least START fighting against the tidal wave of the Left. Sitting on the sidelines rooting for 3rd parties that aren't even on the playing field...or reveling in your own moral narcissism...HELPS the wave grow. Fight back, and do it for yourselves if not for the President or your fellow conservatives! Just do something...anything...to stop this rise of Socialism that is fast approaching. And if your answer is that fighting Trump and fighting the Commies is one and the same, you are lost intellectually/morally, and have had your common sense...evidently...surgically removed.

Fighting back is exactly what I am doing - while there is still time.  2018 is not the time to worry about third parties.   That's for 2020.  All that matters now is to vote with enthusiasm for Republican candidates.   What matters is to continue the economy's momentum and to keep the wolves from Trump's door.  But if this election is a referendum on Trump, I am afraid we lose.   Trump has got to change.  He's got to tout the reasons to vote GOP, not whine incessantly about his enemies.   And the worst of those enemies, I'm afraid, is Trump himself.   

[INVAR]

You simply cannot ignore the reality that if the GOP loses this fall, it will not be because voters dislike the booming economy, it will be because they can no longer stand Trump's erratic brand of megalomania.   

Actually Jazzy, it will not be due to Trump (though Cohen and Manafort certainly do not help inspire remaining Conservatives in the GOP to go run out and vote), it will have been due to the Republican reneging on promises and governing as Democrats that will have done them in.

[Emjay]

@Emjay,   you misunderstand.   I give President Trump (and the GOP Congress) full credit for the booming economy.  I want it to continue - and it will not if we put Nancy Pelosi back in charge of the House. 

You simply cannot ignore the reality that if the GOP loses this fall, it will not be because voters dislike the booming economy, it will be because they can no longer stand Trump's erratic brand of megalomania.   

Yes, his personality matters.  Yes, his incessant tweets matter.  Yes, the revolving door in the Executive Branch matters.   This is no way to run a Presidency.   Trump has got to change, and the time for doing so is running short.   If the GOP loses its majority, look for the impeachment circus to begin.   

You seem to suggest that I am the man's adversary.  To the contrary,  I am seeking to save him and the GOP, and advance the current prosperity and the return of Constitutionalism to our courts.   All of that is in jeopardy,  at a time of unrivaled prosperity and low unemployment.   It's crazy that this should be so.  And, let's face it, it is because the man at the helm appears to millions of us to be, well, crazy.

Thanks @Jazzhead  and I hear you.  But I think you are unwittingly falling for media spin.

Trump had never held political office. He is not part of that 'in crowd.'  He did make mistakes in some of his original staff members and appointees but none of them were fatal and most have been corrected.

He is not crazy but he is different.  And that difference, while foreign to many of us, has served him well.  Yes, he has a big ego but if anyone needed a coat of armor in the form of an ego, Trump did.  He doesn't just sit back and take it.  He fights back and his tweets go everywhere.  They are his form of the old Roosevelt fireside chats.

Ted Cruz is a good example of a great ally to Trump and the country.  He's a big enough man to let go of the insults and work for the good of the country.

I hope you will be able to put aside the personal annoyances.  They are not as fatal as the media would have you believe.  We need to support Trump.

[Mesaclone]

What meager pap.

As opposed to your strong counterarguments.

[Emjay]

As opposed to your strong counterarguments.

Two people made similar 2 or 3 word answers.  Typical and scary.  They can't handle the truth.

[roamer_1]

As opposed to your strong counterarguments.

Right. Succinct and true.

[Mesaclone]

Fighting back is exactly what I am doing - while there is still time.  2018 is not the time to worry about third parties.   That's for 2020.  All that matters now is to vote with enthusiasm for Republican candidates.   What matters is to continue the economy's momentum and to keep the wolves from Trump's door.  But if this election is a referendum on Trump, I am afraid we lose.   Trump has got to change.  He's got to tout the reasons to vote GOP, not whine incessantly about his enemies.   And the worst of those enemies, I'm afraid, is Trump himself.   

He is, and must, do both. To let the nebulous demagoguery of his enemies go unopposed is a grave mistake made by all too many past GOP leaders...so Trump must fight such empty argumentation, whether it come from the Left as most do...or sources on the right like Will, Flake, McCain and other NT'rs. You are correct though, that he must re-emphasize the many reasons to vote FOR Republicans rather than simply against Dems...but this is a situation in which multi-tasking is a necessity.

[Jazzhead]

Thanks @Jazzhead  and I hear you.  But I think you are unwittingly falling for media spin.

Trump had never held political office. He is not part of that 'in crowd.'  He did make mistakes in some of his original staff members and appointees but none of them were fatal and most have been corrected.

He is not crazy but he is different.  And that difference, while foreign to many of us, has served him well.  Yes, he has a big ego but if anyone needed a coat of armor in the form of an ego, Trump did.  He doesn't just sit back and take it.  He fights back and his tweets go everywhere.  They are his form of the old Roosevelt fireside chats.

Ted Cruz is a good example of a great ally to Trump and the country.  He's a big enough man to let go of the insults and work for the good of the country.

I hope you will be able to put aside the personal annoyances.  They are not as fatal as the media would have you believe.  We need to support Trump.

@Emjay
This is not about supporting Trump, at least not directly.   This is about preserving the GOP majorities in Congress.   Whether or not to support Trump is an issue for 2020.   All I care about now is saving the Congress,  and my fear is that Trump's preoccupation with himself is causing this fall's election to be a referendum on Trump, not the booming economy.   That is, IMO, a recipe for disaster.   

For Trumpers, this is about putting aside ideological or personality differences with your local Congressperson and GETTING OUT TO VOTE for him or her.

For Never-Trumpers, this is about putting aside objections to Trump and his personality and GETTING OUT TO VOTE for your GOP Congressperson. 

This is about GOP solidarity.   But it is also about persuading independents to get out and vote GOP.   And here, Trump is not helping.   And it is the independents who will,  I am afraid, be voting as if this is a referendum on Trump.    And installing Pelosi as the next Speaker of the House.   

 

[Emjay]

He is, and must, do both. To let the nebulous demagoguery of his enemies go unopposed is a grave mistake made by all too many past GOP leaders...so Trump must fight such empty argumentation, whether it come from the Left as most do...or sources on the right like Will, Flake, McCain and other NT'rs. You are correct though, that he must re-emphasize the many reasons to vote FOR Republicans rather than simply against Dems...but this is a situation in which multi-tasking is a necessity.

@Jazzhead @Mesaclone   Yes, I agree.  George W. Bush has become a despised figure around here for reasons I can't quite figure out and he was the classiest, most affable guy ever.  Apparently, we don't need a classy, affable guy right now.

Trump speaks at rallies quite often and also at various state occasions.  He always emphasizes the positive values he hopes to achieve at such events. Unfortunately, NTers never watch those.

It is in his tweets that he responds to his enemies.  I've changed my mind on his tweets.  They used to annoy me but they are a necessary evil in this climate.

[INVAR]

This is about GOP solidarity.

They told a good chunk of us Tea Party folks to get out of their party. 

So we did.

So much for unity.

They killed any of that themselves.

But it is also about persuading independents to get out and vote GOP.   

Trump already had said he would go after and win Bernie supporters to his cause.  Picking up Liberals and making the GOP more liberal is where the future of that party obviously lies.

[aligncare]

Ann is still my gal.

It's called marketing.

:)

 

Ann is one of Trump’s biggest critics in one area only: the wall – on every other issue she’s his biggest fan.

But, it seems she can’t control her irritation with Trump, why? Because he didn’t have a magic wand he could wave to get congress moving on funding the wall? Well, welcome to the swamp, Ann.

The reality is she’s got unrealistic expectations when it comes to how quickly congress moves on any issue, much less on immigration, where republicans are historically simply awful.

[aligncare]

@Jazzhead   Typically, you've missed the main points of @Mesaclone post.

You say Trump has presided over a booming economy as if it all just 'happened' while he was golfing or something.  You won't even acknowledge that Trump had a big part in that booming economy.

You continue to dwell on Trump's personality.  You continue to exaggerate his flaws and ignore his accomplishments.  People like you will be responsible if you align with the left and destroy Trump, and don't think you won't pay for it.

And I say he achieved his victories precisely because of his personality.

[DB]

They told a good chunk of us Tea Party folks to get out of their party. 

GOP solidarity?

LOL!!!

Solidarity to the GOP head that has switched parties more than anyone I know... Who has donated to numerous Democrats including Hillary Clinton... Who threatened to run as an independent if he didn't get the GOP nomination... That's some solidarity...

The insanity is off the charts...

[DB]

And I say he achieved his victories precisely because of his personality.

That sword swings both ways... We'll see who takes the most damage when it is all over...

[GrouchoTex]

And I say he achieved his victories precisely because of his personality.

I agree, but that personality may also be his undoing.

[Emjay]

I agree, but that personality may also be his undoing.

How so, @GrouchoTex ?  I mean his avid supporters liked his personality and they haven't changed about that.

And his newly acquired supporters, acquired both by Trump's own successes, are not offended enough to desert him.

At least I'm not.

[GrouchoTex]

How so, @GrouchoTex ?  I mean his avid supporters liked his personality and they haven't changed about that.

And his newly acquired supporters, acquired both by Trump's own successes, are not offended enough to desert him.

At least I'm not.

This whole issue he is facing right now is due to his personality, or should I say, personality type.

[corbe]

   Hypothetical @Emjay Do you believe that if these 2 bimbos had come out a week before Super Tuesday's Evangelicals showed up to vote:



    Instead of this made up BS



   The election could have been different?

   *  Still Butthurt after all these years.

[Mesaclone]

Right. Succinct and true.

Not many people can <NOPE>in a mere three word sentence. Kudos to you, sir.