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This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« on: July 22, 2018, 06:15:21 pm »
This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
Washington Post, Jul 20, 2018, Max Boot

How I miss Barack Obama.

And I say that as someone who worked to defeat him: I was a foreign policy adviser to John McCain in 2008 and to Mitt Romney in 2012. I criticized Obama’s “lead from behind” foreign policy that resulted in a premature pullout from Iraq and a failure to stop the slaughter in Syria. I thought he was too weak on Iran and too tough on Israel. I feared that Obamacare would be too costly. I fumed that he was too professorial and too indecisive. I was left cold by his arrogance and his cult of personality.

Now I would take Obama back in a nanosecond. His presidency appears to be a lost golden age when reason and morality reigned. All of his faults, real as they were, fade into insignificance compared with the crippling defects of his successor. And his strengths — seriousness, dignity, intellect, probity, dedication to ideals larger than self — shine all the more clearly in retrospect.

Those thoughts are prompted by watching Obama’s speech in South Africa on the 100th anniversary of Nelson Mandela’s birth. I was moved nearly to tears by his eloquent defense of a liberal world order that President Trump appears bent on destroying.

The first thing that struck me was what was missing: There was no self-praise and no name-calling. Obama has a far better claim than Trump to being a “very stable genius,” but he didn’t call himself one. The sentences were complete and sonorous — and probably written by the speaker himself. (Imagine Trump writing anything longer than a tweet — and even those are full of mistakes.) The tone was sober and high-minded, even if listeners could read between the lines a withering critique of Trump’s policies.


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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2018, 06:17:36 pm »
Conservatives, you have a problem.

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WaPo Conservative: I Miss Obama And Would Take Him Back In A Nanosecond
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2018, 06:18:43 pm »
WaPo Conservative: I Miss Obama And Would Take Him Back In A Nanosecond
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Well, this is some Grade-A crap. Apparently, there are some so-called conservatives that miss Barack Obama and would take him “back in a nanosecond.” It’s not because they support his policies. It’s because Donald Trump is president, and that is a sour grapes reason. Max Boot made this point in his op-ed this week:

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    How I miss Barack Obama.

    And I say that as someone who worked to defeat him: I was a foreign policy adviser to John McCain in 2008 and to Mitt Romney in 2012. I criticized Obama’s “lead from behind” foreign policy that resulted in a premature pullout from Iraq and a failure to stop the slaughter in Syria. I thought he was too weak on Iran and too tough on Israel. I feared that Obamacare would be too costly. I fumed that he was too professorial and too indecisive. I was left cold by his arrogance and his cult of personality.

    Now I would take Obama back in a nanosecond. His presidency appears to be a lost golden age when reason and morality reigned. All of his faults, real as they were, fade into insignificance compared with the crippling defects of his successor. And his strengths — seriousness, dignity, intellect, probity, dedication to ideals larger than self — shine all the more clearly in retrospect.

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Of course you would.


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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 06:21:27 pm »
The "Scoop Jackson Democrats" are flocking back to their natural home.

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No conservative wants Obama back. Some conservatives may wish the current president was someone else, but no conservative wants the Kenyan back.
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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2018, 06:48:35 pm »
I was a foreign policy adviser to John McCain in 2008 and to Mitt Romney in 2012

Says everything you need to know about the fact that this moron was never a "Conservative".

He is just your run-of-the-mill GOP Big Government Statist Party Hack.

All of them loved Obama.
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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2018, 06:58:40 pm »
I liked Garry Kasparov, former chess champion and reading his twitter until I saw it was bent towards "conservatives" like Max Boot who were being quoted. I've become disillusioned with Garry's political views.

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Boot

Boot born in Moscow, the problem with some of these folks is it seems they expect us to fight their wars, that's a bridge too far. Maybe we could do more but it is a tentative situation.

Lindsay Graham and John McCain may please these people, I think in fact, if one searches it out, Garry is a fan of McCain, maybe some photo taken with him.

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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2018, 08:17:09 pm »
How much selective amnesia does a guy have to have to call themselves a conservative and call for the guy who has done more to suppress and discredit conservatism than any politician in recent memory? This is the guy who used the IRS to target those opposed to him!
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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2018, 08:47:22 pm »
Not much of an Trump fan, but Obama can rot as far as I am concerned. That said, nobody can deny that the MEGA crap got old fast, along with the rotating members of Trump's cabinet to tweets that verged on imbecilic. Yes, Obama "acted" more presidential in public, he was pure commie in his policies though (and no amount of acting surpasses actual political acts). One look at the list Sessions made of behind the scenes immigration changes Obama made shows Obama was full blown commie bent on destroying America.

Vote for Obama, Never ever ever ever, says this NeverTrumper.

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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2018, 09:10:52 pm »
So what more evidence do people need to understand that the Republican party has been infiltrated by and taken over by liberal Democrats, who in comparison to their Marxist/Commmunist counterparts having taken over the Democrat party, appear 'conservative'?

BOTH national parties are Leftist and have been for awhile.

Both of them are now transitioning further Left - simply calling themselves and their policies different nomenclatures so as to continue to deceive as they yank this former Republic off the cliff into economic and cultural oblivion.
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No conservative wants Obama back. Some conservatives may wish the current president was someone else, but no conservative wants the Kenyan back.

But this guy's got a microphone, a pen and audience.  He says he's conservative --- so he is the one defining what that means, not you.





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But this guy's got a microphone, a pen and audience.  And he says he's conservative and he is redefining what that means.

He's "Severely" Conservative.

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No conservative wants Obama back. Some conservatives may wish the current president was someone else, but no conservative wants the Kenyan back.
Exactly. No Conservative wants the Kenyan back, except to stand charges.

Since when do Conservatives write for WaPo anyway?
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He's "Severely" Conservative.

Jennifer Rubin and David Brooks have also called themselves conservatives.  The term means nothing much when they can use it. 

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No conservative wants Obama back. Some conservatives may wish the current president was someone else, but no conservative wants the Kenyan back.

People who have to lecture us about why they are "conservative" (and we are not) do.
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But this guy's got a microphone, a pen and audience.  He says he's conservative --- so he is the one defining what that means, not you.

Only if he succeeds, and that's a stretch.  WTF cares what Max Boot says?
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But this guy's got a microphone, a pen and audience.  He says he's conservative --- so he is the one defining what that means, not you.

Yup.

Lots of that going around.
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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2018, 05:12:45 pm »
It would be somewhat intriguing to know whether the Barack Obama who spoke in Johannesburg should be confronted by His Excellency Al-Hashish Field Marshmallow Dr. Barack Obama Dada, COD, RIP, LSMFT, Would-Have-Been Life President of the Republic Formerly Known as the United States and asked, Have you lost your marble? Singular?

Because the Obama who spoke in Johannesburg took positions His Excellency Obama would have denounced without having to be prodded as fanatical right wing claptrap.


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Only if he succeeds, and that's a stretch.  WTF cares what Max Boot says?

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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2018, 05:58:45 pm »
Who in his right mind makes the leap that Boot makes from one party to another with diametrically opposed principles? If you don't like the coach of your favorite team you've been a diehard fan of for decades because he keeps screwing up making what you think are horrible decisions, you don't switch teams.  No diehard Packers fan is going to start rooting for the Bears because the Packers coach or management mess up.
Boot's decision makes no sense. There are quite a few NeverTrumpers who dislike Trump intensely and wish he'd resign. But they aren't giving up their conservative principles and going over to the Dems because of their Trump hate.
From now on, Boot can't be taken seriously about anything.

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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2018, 06:08:07 pm »
I have noticed that the only "conservatives" hired by the MSM are anti-Trump.

I think what @goatprairie says is good analogy.

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I will NOT comply.
 
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No conservative wants Obama back. Some conservatives may wish the current president was someone else, but no conservative wants the Kenyan back.

This.
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Re: This conservative would take Obama back in a nanosecond
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2018, 06:28:16 pm »
Conservatives, you have a problem.

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