Breaking News Trump Says He Accepts Intelligence Conclusion That Russia Meddled in 2016 Election

[TomSea]

This is off topic but I don't doubt that some of the "blue collar" states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania for example, might have turned out for Bernie more.  Articles in fact, have been written on this.

[Restored]

Sanders couldn't win. Too many negatives and he wouldn't embrace his own party.
Biden would have beaten Trump.

[txradioguy]

You have got to be kidding..... if you think most American voters would have EVER voted an avowed old commie coot like Sanders into the White House.   Sorry... but.... I don't believe in unicorns OR in that....lol.

Not kidding...completely serious.

He had the colleges and the unions and the people that have been indoctrinated to get something for nothing from the government motivated and energized.

His promises of free tuition...free single payer health care...living wage...open borders...$15 minimum wage for burger flippers..higher taxes on the 1%...all the crap that Socialists toss out to these kids that don't know any better would have gotten them out to vote for him.  He was to the left of Hillary and the young people and unions and the Media loved him and wanted him to win over Hillary in the primaries.

You and I don't believe in magical unicorns...but what's coming out of colleges and high schools and across our borders illegally sure as hell do.


Hillary lost because she was such an ugly...toxic candidate to her own party that even they didn't want her in office.

[txradioguy]

Sanders couldn't win. Too many negatives and he wouldn't embrace his own party.
Biden would have beaten Trump.

And yet look at the radicals that have taken over the DNC...Ellison and Perez...look at Ocasio's win in New York and the fact that DiFi didn't get the endorsement of the California Democrat Committee.

The radicalism of Bernie Sanders is the new face of the Democrat Party...and they've had decades to radicalize and indoctrinate generations into their world view.

And because Republicans/Conservatives aren't a clear cut difference from their Dem brethren in DC and look more like a uniparty....people will gravitate to what looks and sounds different especially if they are handing out stuff for free.

[XenaLee]

Not kidding...completely serious.

He had the colleges and the unions and the people that have been indoctrinated to get something for nothing from the government motivated and energized.

His promises of free tuition...free single payer health care...living wage...open borders...$15 minimum wage for burger flippers..higher taxes on the 1%...all the crap that Socialists toss out to these kids that don't know any better would have gotten them out to vote for him.  He was to the left of Hillary and the young people and unions and the Media loved him and wanted him to win over Hillary in the primaries.

You and I don't believe in magical unicorns...but what's coming out of colleges and high schools and across our borders illegally sure as hell do.


Hillary lost because she was such an ugly...toxic candidate to her own party that even they didn't want her in office.

The possibility isn't quite there yet though.... because the leftists aren't quite there yet.  True, the left has brain-washed the youth into voting for 'more free stuff' by voting DemocRat.  But the truth is.... most of those kids aren't involved or interested in politics enough to bother voting ....YET.  They will be though.   Give them a few years (with some, a decade, probably)... and those that don't mature into thinking, reasoning conservatives will indeed some day vote for a Bernie as president. 

But not yet.

[edpc]

Sanders couldn't win. Too many negatives and he wouldn't embrace his own party.  Biden would have beaten Trump.

Maybe not, but one thing we can say for certain - in a clean primary, there wouldn't have been the same number of protest votes for Stein in the general.

[cato potatoe]

He had the colleges and the unions and the people that have been indoctrinated to get something for nothing from the government motivated and energized.

Trump would have a difficult time explaining why Bernie was wrong about handouts.  If the stuff Bernie proposed had already been implemented, Trump would disparage the people who wanted to get rid of it.

[TomSea]

Back on topic again, "Russian meddling" can be as tiny of a thing as "Russian trolls", which we do know exist or a facebook post or ad or a youtube video.  There is no evidence one vote was changed by anything. You don't have to do a lot to be accused of meddling in an election.  Unless, it something really big, it's pretty silly.  Let's see what they have on these 12 Russians indicted.

[txradioguy]

The possibility isn't quite there yet though.... because the leftists aren't quite there yet.  True, the left has brain-washed the youth into voting for 'more free stuff' by voting DemocRat.  But the truth is.... most of those kids aren't involved or interested in politics enough to bother voting ....YET.  They will be though.   Give them a few years (with some, a decade, probably)... and those that don't mature into thinking, reasoning conservatives will indeed some day vote for a Bernie as president. 

But not yet.

But it's starting.  The purge of the "old bulls" of the DNC is beginning.  The same people who ousted Democrats like Zell Miller...Sam Nunn...the ones that despite being more socially liberal were patriots and loved the military and their country are now finding themselves being challenged and in some cases defeated by the new DNC/Socialist youth movement.

IMHO the Ocasio win in New York was the canary in the cave for folks like Pelosi and DiFi and all of those 80 year old fools in the DNC...same for the DNC having two hard left radicals like Tom Perez and Keith Ellison at the helm.

And unless the GOP decides to quit trying to be Democrat Lite and give this country a clear cut choice on who to vote for...Khrushchev's famous proclamation that the US would be defeated without a shot being fired will come true.

Reagan knew what he was saying when he said 'Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."

We who at Conservatives and consider ourselves Republicans aren't doing that.  And the leadership we have in the GOP from the top down aren't doing that and it's sad to see people falling for the snake oil we're being sold as being the savior of the country right now.

[Sanguine]

Back on topic again, "Russian meddling" can be as tiny of a thing as "Russian trolls", which we do know exist or a facebook post or ad or a youtube video.  There is no evidence one vote was changed by anything. You don't have to do a lot to be accused of meddling in an election.  Unless, it something really big, it's pretty silly.  Let's see what they have on these 12 Russians indicted.

Good points, Tom.

[XenaLee]

But it's starting.  The purge of the "old bulls" of the DNC is beginning.  The same people who ousted Democrats like Zell Miller...Sam Nunn...the ones that despite being more socially liberal were patriots and loved the military and their country are now finding themselves being challenged and in some cases defeated by the new DNC/Socialist youth movement.

IMHO the Ocasio win in New York was the canary in the cave for folks like Pelosi and DiFi and all of those 80 year old fools in the DNC...same for the DNC having two hard left radicals like Tom Perez and Keith Ellison at the helm.

And unless the GOP decides to quit trying to be Democrat Lite and give this country a clear cut choice on who to vote for...Khrushchev's famous proclamation that the US would be defeated without a shot being fired will come true.

Reagan knew what he was saying when he said 'Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."

We who at Conservatives and consider ourselves Republicans aren't doing that.  And the leadership we have in the GOP from the top down aren't doing that and it's sad to see people falling for the snake oil we're being sold as being the savior of the country right now.

Oh, I agree with that 100%.   

Alas, the RINOs in the GOP won't allow that to occur..... since it's their job to defeat the GOP from within.

 

[txradioguy]

Back on topic again, "Russian meddling" can be as tiny of a thing as "Russian trolls", which we do know exist or a facebook post or ad or a youtube video.  There is no evidence one vote was changed by anything. You don't have to do a lot to be accused of meddling in an election.  Unless, it something really big, it's pretty silly.  Let's see what they have on these 12 Russians indicted.

The Russians have an entire government funded Troll Army that wage a continual day in and day out attack against our infrastructure.  Some days they are more successful than others.

At one point while I was in DC the SecDef had to shut down the Unclass email system for all of DC because hackers had broken the firewall.

In all honesty when the next world war happens the first indication won't be a missile being fired.

Imagine a DDoS attack on everything connected to the world wide web in the U.S. to include our defense systems and technology.

They'll try to blind us first then hit us.

[XenaLee]

The Russians have an entire government funded Troll Army that wage a continual day in and day out attack against our infrastructure.  Some days they are more successful than others.

At one point while I was in DC the SecDef had to shut down the Unclass email system for all of DC because hackers had broken the firewall.

In all honesty when the next world war happens the first indication won't be a missile being fired.

Imagine a DDoS attack on everything connected to the world wide web in the U.S. to include our defense systems and technology.

They'll try to blind us first then hit us.

Unfortunately.... since we can no longer even trust the higher ups in our intel agencies.... it could even be a scenario along the lines of the Jericho TV series.  Anything is possible with the leftist cretins.  And as desperate as they are right now.... I put nothing past them.

[Sanguine]

The Russians have an entire government funded Troll Army that wage a continual day in and day out attack against our infrastructure.  Some days they are more successful than others.

At one point while I was in DC the SecDef had to shut down the Unclass email system for all of DC because hackers had broken the firewall.

In all honesty when the next world war happens the first indication won't be a missile being fired.

Imagine a DDoS attack on everything connected to the world wide web in the U.S. to include our defense systems and technology.

They'll try to blind us first then hit us.

The old methods, developed by Lenin and Stalin, were to infect the information going to the public for the purpose of sowing chaos, dissent and discord.  Same thing they are doing here, but the technology has been updated, and as Txradioguy points out, they've added some new methods. 

[XenaLee]

The Russians have an entire government funded Troll Army that wage a continual day in and day out attack against our infrastructure.  Some days they are more successful than others.

At one point while I was in DC the SecDef had to shut down the Unclass email system for all of DC because hackers had broken the firewall.

In all honesty when the next world war happens the first indication won't be a missile being fired.

Imagine a DDoS attack on everything connected to the world wide web in the U.S. to include our defense systems and technology.

They'll try to blind us first then hit us.

Another thought to add.... it's not 'just' Russian trolls at work here.  It's US/Democrat leftist trolls & hackers, too.  I recall Rush talking about how he had investigators uncover about a dozen such trolls making it look as if thousands of internet people were against Rush over that Fluke fiasco.   

[txradioguy]

Another thought to add.... it's not 'just' Russian trolls at work here.  It's US/Democrat leftist trolls & hackers, too.  I recall Rush talking about how he had investigators uncover about a dozen such trolls making it look as if thousands of internet people were against Rush over that Fluke fiasco.

Yeah that's true...the Russians and the left in our country don't have the market cornered on trolls...bots...or dummy accounts.

They are just the ones that use them the most.

[INVAR]

You have got to be kidding..... if you think most American voters would have EVER voted an avowed old commie coot like Sanders into the White House.   Sorry... but.... I don't believe in unicorns OR in that....lol.

Hillary winning the popular vote doesn't factor into your equation at all?

Interesting.

[Silver Pines]

Straw man and deflection from What?

Your own personal prejudices?

You have a problem with 'Diplomacy'? The Sine Qua Non of our Opinion shaping, treasonous, leftist press?

@To-Whose-Benefit?

 

[XenaLee]

Hillary winning the popular vote doesn't factor into your equation at all?

Interesting.

It doesn't mean a damned thing.... since.... our elections are not based on the "popular vote".  So...

no.

[skeeter]

It doesn't mean a damned thing.... since.... our elections are not based on the "popular vote".  So...

no.

Especially not when Hillary's national 'margin of victory' was equal to or less than the number of illegal aliens estimated to be registered to vote in LA county alone.

[INVAR]

It doesn't mean a damned thing.... since.... our elections are not based on the "popular vote".  So...

no.

Sadly I see it as a clear barometer.

Especially when Red states are being flooded with refugees from failed Blue Urban Democrat cities who are now voting the same stupid way they did back in the places they have fled from.

Like locusts.

[XenaLee]

Sadly I see it as a clear barometer.

Especially when Red states are being flooded with refugees from failed Blue Urban Democrat cities who are now voting the same stupid way they did back in the places they have fled from.

Like locusts.

That's a different issue from the "popular vote" though.  Isn't it.

No doubt that with enough flooding of red states by immigrants, illegal and otherwise.... those states will eventually turn blue re: electoral votes.   But that is not the case currently (thank God).

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon

Seriously? Have you already forgotten how Clinton and Gore raped Russia and stole a hell of a lot of the money being sent there to get them through the first winter and rebuild their government after the collapse of communism?

Forgotten the "Rotten meat" deal that Tyson pulled that cost the Russians millions,and Bubba flying to the summit in St.Petersburg to visit with  Yeltsin ahead of the summit meeting because Yeltsin had gone public about the rotten meat,Tyson Foods refusing to refund the money,and Yeltsin stating that Russia was cancelling the contract with Tyson and buying the shiploads of meat elsewhere?  Oddly enough,Yeltsin signed to renew the contract after Bubba's early visit.

Remember Goober being in charge of the World Bank cash funding going to Russia through a NYC bank? Remember billions showing up missing,and the only person found guilty was a young Russian woman in her 30's that was there to oversee Russia's interests? Neither Goober nor ANY of the US bureaucrats or bankers associated with that account were even given parking tickets. Billions disappeared,and were just forgotten about. There was also no followup on how long that young woman remained in prison after the dust settled.

And that is  just the tip of that iceberg off the top of my mind.

@sneakypete, no, I don't remember any of that.  At the time it happened, I was a single chick preoccupied with clubs, dancing, clothes, and makeup, and I didn't care about politics.  And I don't have the chart for these nicknames so I don't know who Goober is, either.

But the main point is that none of your post has even the slightest thing to do with this:

[XenaLee]

Especially not when Hillary's national 'margin of victory' was equal to or less than the number of illegal aliens estimated to be registered to vote in LA county alone.

And oddly enough... many of the 'now legal citizens that vote' that were illegals once....don't want open borders or unbridled illegal immigration any more than those of us on the right do. 

[edpc]

Unfortunately.... since we can no longer even trust the higher ups in our intel agencies.... it could even be a scenario along the lines of the Jericho TV series.

Cool.  I'm already in Kansas.  I call dibs on Mimi Clark!