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Offline GrouchoTex

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There's the Houston Chronicle book

https://www.pediment.com/products/hurricane-harvey-by-the-houston-chronicle-hardcover-book

The Houston Chronicle is proud to present "Hurricane Harvey: by the staff of the Houston Chronicle," a hardcover book that captures Harvey's wide-reaching devastation and Houston's indomitable spirit.

This 200-page book will feature breathtaking photos and compelling stories from the award-winning staff of the Houston Chronicle. A portion of the proceeds from this book will go to help those impacted by the hurricane in Houston and across the Texas Gulf Coast, donating to the Greater Houston Community Foundation Hurricane Harvey Relief Fund and Rebuild Texas Fund.

Could be this.
I heard it on KTRH.

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I wished he'd have gone through the same week we all did.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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My cuz couldn't go... but some of his friends did... all the way from Colorado, mind you...

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I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Fair enough, you're right about that.
I'm just frustrated by it..

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No, that is not what Trump said.
So those going out to watch the hurricane were not spectators?

Then what were they?

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So those going out to watch the hurricane were not spectators?

Then what were they?

Newscasters

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So those going out to watch the hurricane were not spectators?

Then what were they?

Who are you talking about?

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Newscasters

No one went out to watch the hurricane but newscasters?

That is a first for weather disasters.
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Was in answer to this comment

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,319255.msg1705312.html#msg1705312

"Saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well."

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"Saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well."
What exactly is your point?

I made mine in my post already, and all I got from you was something like "that is not what Trump said".

Point out what in my post that is erroneous.

Here it is again in its entirety.
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A lot of brouha about nothing.

Trump made a statement that said that some of those who got into harm's way were spectators.  No doubt about it.  It always happens, whether a traffic accident or some weather phenomena.

Was it prudent to say this?  No.  Was it a stretch to say 'thousands'?  Likely.

So somebody give the punch line here.

That Trump is a jerk? Maybe.

That people should not be stupid and place themselves in harm's way? Absolutely.




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What exactly is your point?

I made mine in my post already, and all I got from you was something like "that is not what Trump said".

Point out what in my post that is erroneous.

Here it is again in its entirety.

I take issue with the "some".  That's not what he said.  It might have been what he meant, but I'm not going to try to guess what he meant, I'm going to go by what he actually said. 

"Saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well."

So let's break down what he said:
Saved 16,000 people last year, 

Many of them in Texas,       Agreed, looks like there were about 14,000 rescues just in Texas.

for whatever reason that is.   As though he doesn't understand why the bulk of rescues were in Texas.

People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane.
  He didn't say "Some of those people", he said "People", just prior to indicating he didn't understand why there were 14,000 rescues in Texas.

That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well. 

If he didn't mean what he said he should think about what he's saying before he says it.

Someone suggested previously that the sentence structure was more like: Saved 16,000 people last year, many of them in Texas.  For whatever reason that is, people went out in their boats to watch the hurricane.  That didn't work out to well.

But that does not make sense.  Any one of us would say "For whatever reason, people went out in their boats to watch the hurricane."  They wouldn't add the "that is".

Put the whole statement together and I can understand why Texans would be annoyed with the way what Trump actually said comes across.  Add to that Coasties saying they have no data on people rescued from boats because they went out to watch the hurricane and this is just more dumb shit that Trump made up unnecessarily.

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I take issue with the "some".  That's not what he said.  It might have been what he meant, but I'm not going to try to guess what he meant, I'm going to go by what he actually said. 

"Saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well."

So let's break down what he said:
Saved 16,000 people last year, 

Many of them in Texas,       Agreed, looks like there were about 14,000 rescues just in Texas.

for whatever reason that is.   As though he doesn't understand why the bulk of rescues were in Texas.

People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane.
  He didn't say "Some of those people", he said "People", just prior to indicating he didn't understand why there were 14,000 rescues in Texas.

That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well. 

If he didn't mean what he said he should think about what he's saying before he says it.

Someone suggested previously that the sentence structure was more like: Saved 16,000 people last year, many of them in Texas.  For whatever reason that is, people went out in their boats to watch the hurricane.  That didn't work out to well.

But that does not make sense.  Any one of us would say "For whatever reason, people went out in their boats to watch the hurricane."  They wouldn't add the "that is".

Put the whole statement together and I can understand why Texans would be annoyed with the way what Trump actually said comes across.  Add to that Coasties saying they have no data on people rescued from boats because they went out to watch the hurricane and this is just more dumb shit that Trump made up unnecessarily.
Lots of brouha about nothing.  I saw nothing in the comments which precipitate such a response.

Some people have agendas it appears.
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Lots of brouha about nothing.  I saw nothing in the comments which precipitate such a response.

Some people have agendas it appears.

Going through natural disasters tends to make people more sensitive to callous remarks.   Trump should have kept is trap shut.
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Lots of brouha about nothing.  I saw nothing in the comments which precipitate such a response.

Some people have agendas it appears.

The "brouha" in part comes from people trying to say that Trump didn't say what he said.

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It has already been well-established..... that Trump says (and tweets) stupid things.   His tendency to exaggerate and emit hyperbole on even minor issues is a given.  It has also been well-established....

that the leftist idiots and the never-Trumpers will point and laugh at ANYTHING Trump says or tweets... even while ignoring any good things he has accomplished for the nation.

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The "brouha" in part comes from people trying to say that Trump didn't say what he said.

I know several dozen families who lost their homes and all its contents to Harvey.  They became local refugees who had to find lodging with friends and families, and are still struggling to rebuild their lives.

Ironic thing, is this is Trump Country.  Saying dumb callous things sure isn't helping his base.
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Lots of brouha about nothing.  I saw nothing in the comments which precipitate such a response.

Some people have agendas it appears.

Hurricane Harvey wasn't exactly nothing, and saying stupid and insulting things about the people who went through it isn't nothing.

And, newsflash: all people have agendas.

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Hurricane Harvey wasn't exactly nothing, and saying stupid and insulting things about the people who went through it isn't nothing.

And, newsflash: all people have agendas.
I never said the hurricane was nothing.  Where did that come from?

And I already said he was out of line with the statement and may have proved him to be a jerk.  What more are you itching for?  Blasphemy?

Yes, those on NTS indeed have agendas.
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I never said the hurricane was nothing.  Where did that come from?

And I already said he was out of line with the statement and may have proved him to be a jerk.  What more are you itching for?  Blasphemy?

Yes, those on NTS indeed have agendas.

NTS?

No, I said ALL people have agendas.  Pretending otherwise makes you seem disingenuous and clearly agenda-driven.
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Conroe, TX.. Montgomery County, meets up with Harris County (Houston) county line going north up Hwy. 45.  Conroe was declared a disaster area - whole subdivisions covered in water.  I knew the townhouse I have there must have flooded.  I have a man who checks on my house and when he could get to Conroe, he called me and the townhouse did not flood.  It is in the one hundred yr. flood designation, but I bought flood insurance after this happened - that one hundred yr. flood designation is bound to change after this terrible flood.

I am apprehensive about this year's hurricane season and it has started.  The worst hurricane floods, in Texas, tend to happen in late August, Sept./Oct., after the gulf coast water is heated up by summer temps.

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Conroe, TX.. Montgomery County, meets up with Harris County (Houston) county line going north up Hwy. 45.  Conroe was declared a disaster area - whole subdivisions covered in water.  I knew the townhouse I have there must have flooded.  I have a man who checks on my house and when he could get to Conroe, he called me and the townhouse did not flood.  It is in the one hundred yr. flood designation, but I bought flood insurance after this happened - that one hundred yr. flood designation is bound to change after this terrible flood.

I am apprehensive about this year's hurricane season and it has started.  The worst hurricane floods, in Texas, tend to happen in late August, Sept./Oct., after the gulf coast water is heated up by summer temps.

I think by now most urban and suburban areas have been pretty well modeled to fairly accurately know what the 100 year flood elevation is.  Harvey was much more than a hundred year storm, if I had to guess probably a thousand year or more.  The chances of y'all be hit with another storm like that in even our great-grandchildrens' lifetime is extremely low. And if your place didn't flood in that storm then you should be pretty darn safe from it ever flooding.

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The "brouha" in part comes from people trying to say that Trump didn't say what he said.

Never try to parse the words of an inarticulate speaker.  One never gets anywhere, and it annoys the audience.
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