Can Trump win back his base after signing the abominable spending bill? By Thomas Lifson

[Free Vulcan]

@Free Vulcan

I can't speak for @musiclady, but the article and the thread speak to Trump's involvement, so he's the one being discussed here.  IMO, most of his base will stick with him no matter what he does.  Some of them will make excuses, others will get upset and rail a little, but they'll get over it.

Has anyone at TBR screamed that Trump is mean and evil and they hate him?  To me, the claim is a little hyperbolic, don't you think?

I don't hate Trump, and I don't hate Ryan and McConnell.  Dislike?  Yeah, that.

There are those of the neverTrumper crowd that want to put this all on the President. You can't call yourself conservative if you don't even have the basic knowledge of how our Constitutional Republic runs, such as separate but equal branches and how legislation is passed.

So anyone taking the opportunity to use this to take shots at Trump while ignoring that fact, I'd say has a bit of irrational obsession and dare I say it, hatred.

[Right_in_Virginia]

..... Neither God, or the laws of economics are mocked.

How, exactly, was God mocked?

[musiclady]

True, but this mess falls equally on McConnell and Ryan. The hyperbolic seizure from the 'I HATE TRUMP, I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM, HE'S SO MEAN AND EVIL AND A BAD BAD MAN!!!' crowd seems to not spreadl to the the leadership in Congress that oversaw the crafting of the bill and the passing of it in their chambers.

I question the conservatism of the never-Trumpers who can't seem to get equally riled at the other two shysters involved in this debacle.

I don’t know of any conservatives who disapprove of Trump who haven’t disapproved of “Republican leadership “ long before this.

If you can name a single person who fits your description I’d appreciate it.

As far as I know the dreaded NTs on this forum disapprove of all liberalism whether it comes from Trump, McCain, McConnell or any other representative who doesn’t represent us.

[musiclady]

There are those of the neverTrumper crowd that want to put this all on the President. You can't call yourself conservative if you don't even have the basic knowledge of how our Constitutional Republic runs, such as separate but equal branches and how legislation is passed.

So anyone taking the opportunity to use this to take shots at Trump while ignoring that fact, I'd say has a bit of irrational obsession and dare I say it, hatred.

Once again, name one.

[INVAR]

How, exactly, was God mocked?

If you don't know, then there's no point in explaining it to you.

Consequences come regardless whether you are ignorant and cognizant of them, or not.

[Jazzhead]

I despise all three of them, even moreso than I do the Democrats.

At least the Democrats are honest about what they intend to do to their victims.

These three bastards promised and promised and promised and campaigned, campaigned and campaigned to stop, end and repeal root and branch, the crap Obama and the Democrats have done.

Instead, these three have made the Obama, Clinton and Democrat Agenda their own, and crafted their own deals in secret with the Democrats in thousand-page omnibus bills no one had the time to read before voting it into "law".

I despise them all and they make me sick.  They are beyond loathsome, and they and their party I hope meet the just deserts they have sown for themselves.

Unfortunately, they will take us all out with them when the consequences of what they have done to stab us in the heart from the back come to fruition.

Neither God, or the laws of economics are mocked.

You really need to review your meds.   I'm worried about you. 

[INVAR]

You really need to review your meds.   I'm worried about you.

You worry about yourself there pretty boy.

[LMAO]

There are those of the neverTrumper crowd that want to put this all on the President. You can't call yourself conservative if you don't even have the basic knowledge of how our Constitutional Republic runs, such as separate but equal branches and how legislation is passed.

So anyone taking the opportunity to use this to take shots at Trump while ignoring that fact, I'd say has a bit of irrational obsession and dare I say it, hatred.

I agree with what you wrote here.

I just wish there were more people in DC who at least pretended to care that we are 21 trillion in debt and rising