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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2018, 02:48:19 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on February 23, 2018, 02:42:59 am
I pray for these parents.  I'd lose my mind.

Me too...what a nightmare for them...first the FBI screw up and now this...
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2018, 02:52:36 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on February 23, 2018, 02:48:19 am
Me too...what a nightmare for them...first the FBI screw up and now this...

Well at least the FBI has all our emails and phone calls recorded.   Priorities ya know
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2018, 02:55:32 am »
Quote from: Bigun on February 23, 2018, 02:07:00 am
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And why they always arrive just in time to help clean up the mess. 

But don't they look cool with all their paramilitary gear when they do show in force? All that gear is a fantastic disguise for their cowardice.
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2018, 03:21:05 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on February 23, 2018, 02:40:52 am
I just can't imagine standing there listening to all those shots and not doing anything....4mins was a lifetime for 17 souls....


Yes. That takes a special kind of person. And he had at least one weapon, maybe more, taser? mace? I would have gone in even if I was unarmed and try to find something I can use on the way.


If for no other reason than to try to disrupt and distract the guy. Standing outside while hearing all those gunshots is really unimaginable.
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BREAKING: School Officer Avoided Confronting Gunman For 4-6 Minutes While Students Were Slaughtered
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2018, 04:42:39 am »
On Thursday, the Broward County sheriff said that the school resource officer at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School avoided the building where an 18-year-old gunman slaughtered 17 students.

 Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel says Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School resource officer "never went in" to freshman building amid deadly Parkland shooting; "He should have went in. Addressed the killer. Killed the killer.".................................

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Source: https://www.dailywire.com/news/27477/breaking-school-police-officer-never-confronted-ryan-saavedra

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I personally would not want to take on a person with a long gun with just a pistol myself. That said, I would never take a job where I didn't have access to a long gun if the situation demanded it. You are expected to defend those kids with your life. This officer didn't live up to his job requirements. Most shooters when faced with opposition either kill themselves or surrender.



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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2018, 12:05:41 pm »



Now, let's see if Sinead O'Connor Jr and her merry band of activists go harangue this man and call him a murderer, like they did with Dana Loesch the other night.
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2018, 01:49:17 pm »
You can laugh, but these are situations where robo-cops can be used. A robo-cop won't be afraid of not doing it's job, and nobody will mourn if the robo-cop gets killed/disabled.
Here's another situation where a human leo arrived in time to very possibly stop some of the killings but waited until all the shooting was done i.e. many kids killed before he acted.
We can criticize AI for taking jobs, but maybe it's time for AIs for a number of police jobs including this one.  I have no idea how close we are to having a robot that can effectively simulate an armed leo, but I hope they're close.
Anyway, we use drones now to kill terrorists. Might as well use them to kill/disable bad people here.
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2018, 01:58:18 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 23, 2018, 12:05:41 pm



Now, let's see if Sinead O'Connor Jr and her merry band of activists go harangue this man and call him a murderer, like they did with Dana Loesch the other night.

I like the look.   What would you call that?
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2018, 02:10:36 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on February 23, 2018, 01:58:18 pm
I like the look.   What would you call that?

Just go to the barber and ask for the Nothing Compares 2U.
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2018, 02:11:47 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 23, 2018, 02:10:36 pm
Just go to the barber and ask for the Nothing Compares 2U.

Or the Britney Spears.
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2018, 02:12:07 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on February 22, 2018, 11:15:39 pm
Peterson chose to resign as he had met the necessary requirements for retirement.

Maybe that's why he didn't go in. "I'm too close to retirement to risk my life now!"
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2018, 02:12:52 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 23, 2018, 02:10:36 pm
Just go to the barber and ask for the Nothing Compares 2U.

Do I get a discount if I bring an 8 x 10 color glossy of a Pope?
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2018, 02:18:10 pm »
Quote from: al_c on February 23, 2018, 02:12:07 pm
Maybe that's why he didn't go in. "I'm too close to retirement to risk my life now!"

Wasn't that the plot to Lethal Weapon?

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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2018, 02:19:49 pm »
Quote from: goatprairie on February 23, 2018, 01:49:17 pm
You can laugh, but these are situations where robo-cops can be used. A robo-cop won't be afraid of not doing it's job, and nobody will mourn if the robo-cop gets killed/disabled.

I'll buy that for a dollar.
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2018, 02:31:53 pm »
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Police officers guard home of deputy assigned to Florida HS who ‘never went in’ during shooting: report
Fox News, Feb 23,2018

Several Palm Beach County, Fla., police officers are guarding the home of the former school resource deputy who stayed outside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School as last week's massacre unfolded, Fox's WSVN-TV reported.

Deputy Scot Peterson, of the Broward County Sheriff’s Office, was armed and stationed on the school’s campus when a suspect identified by authorities as Nikolas Cruz opened fire with an AR-15 rifle, leaving 17 people dead and others wounded.

Peterson resigned Thursday after video surveillance showed he never entered the school, even though he "clearly" knew there was a shooting taking place, officials said. The revelation prompted widespread outrage.

The deputy “was seeking cover behind a concrete column leading to a stairwell,” Officer Tim Burton of the Coral Springs Police Department, who responded to the shooting, told the New York Times.

The Times also reported that in February 2016, the sheriff’s office received “thirdhand information” about Cruz planning “to shoot up the school.” The information -- which said Cruz had knives and a BB gun -- was forwarded to Peterson, who was working at the school back then.


More w/photo: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/23/police-officers-guard-home-deputy-assigned-to-florida-hs-who-never-went-in-during-shooting-report.html


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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2018, 02:34:01 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on February 23, 2018, 02:31:53 pm
Police officers guard home of deputy assigned to Florida HS who ‘never went in’ during shooting: report
Fox News, Feb 23,2018

Well if Broward's finest are protecting this guy he is as good as dead.

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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2018, 02:38:15 pm »
I am assuming this Deputy thought this was a cushy job where he would never have to do anything and just gain points for his retirement. 
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2018, 02:41:13 pm »
Everyone knows Peterson would have stopped the shooting if Chris Cox, Wayne LaPierre, and Dana Loesch hadn't tackled and sat on him just outside the door.
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2018, 02:42:54 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on February 23, 2018, 02:38:15 pm
I am assuming this Deputy thought this was a cushy job where he would never have to do anything and just gain points for his retirement.

I think you're right.

It brings to mind back during the first Gulf War when the members of the Reserve were complaining about being called up for active duty, saying that they never thought they'd actually have to serve ....
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2018, 02:42:59 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on February 23, 2018, 02:38:15 pm
I am assuming this Deputy thought this was a cushy job where he would never have to do anything and just gain points for his retirement.

Fun Fact: This newly retired cop was in charge of investigating one of the death threats this guy made last year. He did nothing.
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2018, 02:47:56 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on February 23, 2018, 02:42:54 pm
I think you're right.

It brings to mind back during the first Gulf War when the members of the Reserve were complaining about being called up for active duty, saying that they never thought they'd actually have to serve ....

It was supposed to be you play dress up acouple hours every month and then in the summer two weeks  camping and driving jeeps in the woods. 
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2018, 02:59:51 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on February 23, 2018, 02:47:56 pm
It was supposed to be you play dress up acouple hours every month and then in the summer two weeks  camping and driving jeeps in the woods.


Hey.....that’s not as easy as you think.  One summer, we did our drills at Ft. Eustis and the ticks were really, really bad.    :cool:
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2018, 03:06:34 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 23, 2018, 02:59:51 pm

Hey.....that’s not as easy as you think.  One summer, we did our drills at Ft. Eustis and the ticks were really, really bad.    :cool:

You really shouldn't even mention ticks next to your beautiful avatar photo!

And just for the record, in case it needs to be said, I do think the majority of the reserve are honorable people who were/are prepared to fulfill their commitments. 
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2018, 03:08:04 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on February 23, 2018, 02:42:59 pm
Fun Fact: This newly retired cop was in charge of investigating one of the death threats this guy made last year. He did nothing.

Hold this guy accountable ... at the very least, take his pension.   9999hair out0000
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Re: Sheriff: Armed officer at school never entered building during shooting
« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2018, 03:09:02 pm »
The gun-grabbers are using this to say, "See...armed security isn't the answer...guns must go".
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