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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2018, 12:32:27 am »
McCabe is gone.  Several others involved have lost their positions of influence.  Getting the facts out in the open may be all that is needed.  No "firings" required.  There is more than one way to bring pressure to bear.  Ultimately, the FBI can be influenced by the need to repair its reputation by cleaning house.  The memo seems like a good start.  Get it all out in the sunshine.

No firings required??  Who is going to bring pressure to those who have been caught up in the corruption when the majority of those involved are corrupt?  Rosenstein is the Deputy AG, the only person higher than him within the DOJ is Sessions.  Sessions has been absolutely silent on this!  Also, with the massive corruption, who is going to replace Rosenstein? 

The corruption in the FBI runs deep as well, so who is going to clean house and who are you going to replace all these people with?

This is the problem that I see ... we have a multitude of people within the DOJ and the FBI that need to be removed, but they also need to be replaced.  Who is going to replace them and with whom?
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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2018, 02:48:55 am »
No firings required??  Who is going to bring pressure to those who have been caught up in the corruption when the majority of those involved are corrupt?  Rosenstein is the Deputy AG, the only person higher than him within the DOJ is Sessions.  Sessions has been absolutely silent on this!  Also, with the massive corruption, who is going to replace Rosenstein? 

The corruption in the FBI runs deep as well, so who is going to clean house and who are you going to replace all these people with?

This is the problem that I see ... we have a multitude of people within the DOJ and the FBI that need to be removed, but they also need to be replaced.  Who is going to replace them and with whom?

Sessions:

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Congress has made inquiries concerning an issue of great importance for the country and concerns have been raised about the Department’s performance," he said. "I have great confidence in the men and women of this Department. But no Department is perfect."

Sessions said he would ensure the DOJ addresses the concerns raised in the memo, which accuses FBI and Justice Department officials of misusing their authority to obtain a secret surveillance warrant on Carter Page, a former Trump campaign adviser.

"Accordingly, I will forward to appropriate DOJ components all information I receive from Congress regarding this," he said. "I am determined that we will fully and fairly ascertain the truth.

"We work for the American people and are accountable to them and those they have elected. We will meet that responsibility."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372067-sessions-no-department-is-perfect

Yep.  Pretty much nothing.

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2018, 05:17:07 am »
No firings required??  Who is going to bring pressure to those who have been caught up in the corruption when the majority of those involved are corrupt?  Rosenstein is the Deputy AG, the only person higher than him within the DOJ is Sessions.  Sessions has been absolutely silent on this!  Also, with the massive corruption, who is going to replace Rosenstein? 

The corruption in the FBI runs deep as well, so who is going to clean house and who are you going to replace all these people with?

This is the problem that I see ... we have a multitude of people within the DOJ and the FBI that need to be removed, but they also need to be replaced.  Who is going to replace them and with whom?

You're dealing with a hydra - chop one ugly head off - and several others will replace it.

Playing leadership musical chairs in an entirely corrupted institution turned into political weapons - cannot be 'fixed' or 'cleansed' by getting rid of a few career staffers and agency heads.

The rot and ugly infects the entire beast.  Putting bandaids on a cancer is not going to cure it.
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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #78 on: February 04, 2018, 07:08:16 am »
You're dealing with a hydra - chop one ugly head off - and several others will replace it.

Playing leadership musical chairs in an entirely corrupted institution turned into political weapons - cannot be 'fixed' or 'cleansed' by getting rid of a few career staffers and agency heads.

The rot and ugly infects the entire beast.  Putting bandaids on a cancer is not going to cure it.

You stupid fruit.

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #79 on: February 04, 2018, 12:40:36 pm »
You're dealing with a hydra - chop one ugly head off - and several others will replace it.

Playing leadership musical chairs in an entirely corrupted institution turned into political weapons - cannot be 'fixed' or 'cleansed' by getting rid of a few career staffers and agency heads.

The rot and ugly infects the entire beast.  Putting bandaids on a cancer is not going to cure it.

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #80 on: February 04, 2018, 01:23:12 pm »
Why are you pushing for such a fast judgement?  You know we've only seen the first drops in an eventual bucket, so why so quick to write everything off?

You know pressing for a verdict before the case has been fully presented is foolish and liable to lead to a legal disaster, so why are you doing it?

...because no one has ever successfully convinced @Oceander of anything.

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2018, 01:35:53 pm »
Why are you pushing for such a fast judgement?  You know we've only seen the first drops in an eventual bucket, so why so quick to write everything off?

You know pressing for a verdict before the case has been fully presented is foolish and liable to lead to a legal disaster, so why are you doing it? 

Don’t be so obtuse.  I’m not writing anything off other than delusional fantasy. 

You want to be taken seriously by the majority of Americans who aren’t following this except for what they read in the MSM?  Then stick to the facts, and abjure the sexual fantasies of seeing tons of democrats in orange jumpsuits. 

The facts as known right now do not justify any of the sexual fantasies being paraded around here. 

I prefer to stick to the facts and the absolute minimum of inference permitted by Occams Razor.  I’m sorry if my doing do takes the buzz off your sexual fantasies.

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #83 on: February 04, 2018, 01:36:43 pm »

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #84 on: February 04, 2018, 01:43:19 pm »
Yeah, gawrsh.  Compared to this - prosecutors not telling everything they know to a judge to obtain a search warrant, the way most prosecutors conduct themselves on a daily basis - the corruption of a sitting president using the power of the office to affirmatively cover up a crime pales into insignificance.

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Trump won. Get over it,princess.
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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #85 on: February 04, 2018, 01:46:31 pm »
Schiff represents a state that's more of a foreign country than a state in  America,and he truly does represent the scum that elected him.

So why does anyone care what that scum-sucking SOB wants?
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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #86 on: February 04, 2018, 02:39:04 pm »
@Oceander

Trump won. Get over it,princess.

Did I say anything about Trump not winning snowflake?

No, I did not.  Why don’t you try surprising the forum just once by actually using the brains God gave you?  It’d be a refreshing, though much unexpected, change. 

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #87 on: February 04, 2018, 02:57:39 pm »
Don’t be so obtuse.  I’m not writing anything off other than delusional fantasy. 

You want to be taken seriously by the majority of Americans who aren’t following this except for what they read in the MSM?  Then stick to the facts, and abjure the sexual fantasies of seeing tons of democrats in orange jumpsuits. 

The facts as known right now do not justify any of the sexual fantasies being paraded around here. 

I prefer to stick to the facts and the absolute minimum of inference permitted by Occams Razor.  I’m sorry if my doing do takes the buzz off your sexual fantasies.

My "fantasies" do not confine themselves to democrats alone councilor!
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #88 on: February 04, 2018, 02:58:35 pm »
My "fantasies" do not confine themselves to democrats alone councilor!

So you’re a swinger.  Big deal.  They’re still delusional sexual fantasies. 

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #89 on: February 04, 2018, 02:59:28 pm »
So you’re a swinger.  Big deal.  They’re still delusional sexual fantasies.

So YOU say! 
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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #90 on: February 04, 2018, 03:26:12 pm »
Don’t be so obtuse.  I’m not writing anything off other than delusional fantasy. 

You want to be taken seriously by the majority of Americans who aren’t following this except for what they read in the MSM?  Then stick to the facts, and abjure the sexual fantasies of seeing tons of democrats in orange jumpsuits. 

The facts as known right now do not justify any of the sexual fantasies being paraded around here. 

I prefer to stick to the facts and the absolute minimum of inference permitted by Occams Razor.  I’m sorry if my doing do takes the buzz off your sexual fantasies.

I don't think I've been pushing dreams of politicians in jail (although I may hope for it, deep inside).  While I may have some hope of that, I am at heart a cynic, and believe crimes will be gotten away with, as they always have.  You must be thinking of somebody else.
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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #91 on: February 04, 2018, 03:27:10 pm »
So YOU say! 

As objective fact says. 

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #92 on: February 04, 2018, 03:30:32 pm »
So you’re a swinger.  Big deal.  They’re still delusional sexual fantasies.


Sexual fantasies? Freud should be buried a bit deeper each year and you should question your own mind.


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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #93 on: February 04, 2018, 03:38:05 pm »
The facts as known right now do not justify any of the sexual fantasies being paraded around here.


I missed that parade.  Everyone loves a parade.  Well....maybe not Anwar Sadat.
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I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #94 on: February 04, 2018, 03:39:10 pm »

Sexual fantasies? Freud should be buried a bit deeper each year and you should question your own mind.



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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #95 on: February 04, 2018, 04:19:15 pm »
LAUGH BREAK!

/snicker



Feel better?

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #96 on: February 04, 2018, 04:40:25 pm »
I don't think Schiff is concerned that Trump might fire Rosenstein; I think he's trying to egg Trump on to fire him.

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #97 on: February 04, 2018, 04:41:27 pm »
I don't think Schiff is concerned that Trump might fire Rosenstein; I think he's trying to egg Trump on to fire him.

Possibly; in order to create the crisis he wants to exploit. 

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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #98 on: February 04, 2018, 04:45:03 pm »
I don't think Schiff is concerned that Trump might fire Rosenstein; I think he's trying to egg Trump on to fire him.
Possibly; in order to create the crisis he wants to exploit.

Of course.  Doesn't Adam Bomb make a perfect "concern troll?"  :laugh:
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Re: Schiff 'very concerned' Trump might fire Rosenstein
« Reply #99 on: February 04, 2018, 06:06:21 pm »
Possibly; in order to create the crisis he wants to exploit.

Exactly.