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Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
By Brett Samuels - 01/28/18 10:03 AM EST

House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) on Sunday said he has "100 percent" confidence in Robert Mueller to conduct a fair investigation if he is given the proper resources, and urged lawmakers criticizing the special counsel to "leave him the hell alone."

“I think he’s got a fair prosecutor in Bob Mueller, but I don’t think he’s got a fair jury,” Gowdy said on “Fox News Sunday,” referring to President Trump.

“Mueller didn’t raise his hand and say ‘pick me,’” Gowdy added. “We as a country asked him to do this.”

Mueller is conducting an investigation into Russian election meddling and possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 03:23:51 pm »
Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
By Brett Samuels - 01/28/18 10:03 AM EST

House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) on Sunday said he has "100 percent" confidence in Robert Mueller to conduct a fair investigation if he is given the proper resources, and urged lawmakers criticizing the special counsel to "leave him the hell alone."

“I think he’s got a fair prosecutor in Bob Mueller, but I don’t think he’s got a fair jury,” Gowdy said on “Fox News Sunday,” referring to President Trump.

“Mueller didn’t raise his hand and say ‘pick me,’” Gowdy added. “We as a country asked him to do this.”

Mueller is conducting an investigation into Russian election meddling and possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

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Maybe that explains why Gowdy never seems to get any solid results from his interrogations.  It's a really good show.... but the curtain never falls on the act.   :shrug:
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 03:41:46 pm »
To what jury does Trey refer?

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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 03:46:28 pm »
To what jury does Trey refer?


Congress - specifically, Democrats in the House.  He mentioned how they've introduced articles of impeachment twice, before Trump has answered any questions from Mueller.
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 03:54:08 pm »
These kinds of comments make me question the commentor's honesty.

Mueller was hired to probe Russian collusion. Its plain he's no longer doing that, he's looking for something, anything to hang on his target. As he's reportedly done in the past to others. I don't care if this is common in his field its sure as hell unethical.

Gowdy knows this.
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 03:54:57 pm »
I can't wait to see what story the media recycles next week ... we do have the SOTU and they can't allow that to get traction.   **nononono*

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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2018, 04:00:15 pm »
Gowdy's not alone on the Republican side as having confidence in Mueller.  This morning Lindsey Graham said:

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“As a matter of fact, I think Mr. Mueller is the perfect guy to get to the bottom of all this, and he will."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/graham-warns-mueller-firing-trump-article-1.3784063
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2018, 04:02:09 pm »

Congress - specifically, Democrats in the House.  He mentioned how they've introduced articles of impeachment twice, before Trump has answered any questions from Mueller.


Is that it? Okay.


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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2018, 04:08:50 pm »
Gowdy's not alone on the Republican side as having confidence in Mueller.  This morning Lindsey Graham said:

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“As a matter of fact, I think Mr. Mueller is the perfect guy to get to the bottom of all this, and he will."



But what is "all this". We never get to that part.




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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2018, 04:11:06 pm »
I think the "all this" is the investigation authorized by Rod Rosenstein for Mueller to investigate:

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(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2018, 04:30:33 pm »
I think the "all this" is the investigation authorized by Rod Rosenstein for Mueller to investigate:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

Meanwhile, back at the Reality Ranch.... the "all this" swirling around Hillary, Obama, and the Uranium One/Russia connection continues to skate and be "unnoticed" (apparently) by the same oh-so-serious investigative """minds""" (term used loosely) and most of the leftist media.  Seems that Mueller is attempting to mimic Inspector Clouseau here.... only not quite so lovably.
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2018, 04:34:59 pm »
To what jury does Trey refer?
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Mueller has impaneled a grand jury.

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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2018, 04:41:36 pm »
@endicom

Mueller has impaneled a grand jury.


Yes and Trump may or may not give testimony before them.  However, that wasn't the 'jury' to which Gowdy was referring.  Only the House can indict/impeach him and only the Senate can convict/remove him.  You'd have to see the full interview to understand what he meant.
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2018, 04:58:57 pm »
I don't know if Mueller is fair and impartial, but I do know that from the beginning, Trump and many of his supporters and associates have been doing their utmost to stonewall and sabotage this investigation, not to mention the numerous complaints, whines and general hysteria transmitted in news outlets and on social media.  Even though I don't like Gowdy, I agree with him here.  Let the man do his job. Sure, it's disagreeable, but the more Trump, et al  whine, grouse, complain and attempt to stonewall, the more it looks like Trump and his associates have something to hide.  We don't know whether the things Mueller is looking at are related to the scope of his investigation or not.  They could well be, or they could lead to evidence, of guilt or innocence.   Would whiners like another sloppy, corrupt Hillary investigation where the outcome appeared to be pre-determined in her favor?  Funny how those who complained about the half-assed Hillary's investigation seem to want  want a similar investigation for Trump.

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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2018, 05:01:01 pm »
I don't know if Mueller is fair and impartial, but I do know that from the beginning, Trump and many of his supporters and associates have been doing their utmost to stonewall and sabotage this investigation, not to mention the numerous complaints, whines and general hysteria transmitted in news outlets and on social media.  Even though I don't like Gowdy, I agree with him here.  Let the man do his job. Sure, it's disagreeable, but the more Trump, et al  whine, grouse, complain and attempt to stonewall, the more it looks like Trump and his associates have something to hide.  We don't know whether the things Mueller is looking at are related to the scope of his investigation or not.  They could well be, or they could lead to evidence, of guilt or innocence.   Would whiners like another sloppy, corrupt Hillary investigation where the outcome appeared to be pre-determined in her favor?  Funny how those who complained about the half-assed Hillary's investigation seem to want  want a similar investigation for Trump.

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Well that's an interesting view of what's been happening.

I supposed you think Trump should just go ahead and confess and go to jail too.  Even though no crime existed but hey what use are facts.
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2018, 05:10:59 pm »
I don't know if Mueller is fair and impartial, but I do know that from the beginning, Trump and many of his supporters and associates have been doing their utmost to stonewall and sabotage this investigation, not to mention the numerous complaints, whines and general hysteria transmitted in news outlets and on social media.  Even though I don't like Gowdy, I agree with him here.  Let the man do his job. Sure, it's disagreeable, but the more Trump, et al  whine, grouse, complain and attempt to stonewall, the more it looks like Trump and his associates have something to hide.  We don't know whether the things Mueller is looking at are related to the scope of his investigation or not.  They could well be, or they could lead to evidence, of guilt or innocence.   Would whiners like another sloppy, corrupt Hillary investigation where the outcome appeared to be pre-determined in her favor?  Funny how those who complained about the half-assed Hillary's investigation seem to want  want a similar investigation for Trump.

The huge/vast/infinite difference is....

there is a ton of EVIDENCE against Hillary re: her rampant corruption.  Where, exactly, is any evidence of Trump's malfeasance?  Got any?

And think about this.   If you were being accused of something (or of a lot of somethings)... and you were totally innocent of what you were being accused of....

you might "whine" too.
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2018, 05:24:22 pm »
@Applewood

Well that's an interesting view of what's been happening.

I supposed you think Trump should just go ahead and confess and go to jail too.  Even though no crime existed but hey what use are facts.

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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2018, 05:32:52 pm »
And think about this.   If you were being accused of something (or of a lot of somethings)... and you were totally innocent of what you were being accused of....

you might "whine" too.


I don't see it as whining but as defending against the absurd. If Trump loses in the court of public opinion then he will be Nixon II.


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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2018, 05:41:10 pm »
The huge/vast/infinite difference is....

there is a ton of EVIDENCE against Hillary re: her rampant corruption.  Where, exactly, is any evidence of Trump's malfeasance?  Got any?

And think about this.   If you were being accused of something (or of a lot of somethings)... and you were totally innocent of what you were being accused of....

you might "whine" too.

 Sigh! 

Allegations have been made.  The whole point of the investigation is to gather evidence to support those allegations, or if none can be found, to declare the accusations as unfounded. Trump says he did nothing wrong. Ok, but we cannot just take his word for it.  It would be like the police arresting a burglar.   Should he be let off the hook just because he says he didn't do it? 

As for evidence -- well, we don't know what evidence exists because the investigation is not yet complete.  It could be there is no evidence. We just don't know that yet.  But bitching and moaning are not going to make this investigation go any faster or better.  Mueller was appointed and an hour later, people complained that the investigation wasn't going fast enough. This is not a TV program where the investigation and trial are done in an hour. It takes time.  If Trump and his associates would just shut up and cooperate, this investigation might go a bit faster.

 




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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2018, 05:48:52 pm »
Sigh! 

Allegations have been made.  The whole point of the investigation is to gather evidence to support those allegations, or if none can be found, to declare the accusations as unfounded. Trump says he did nothing wrong. Ok, but we cannot just take his word for it.  It would be like the police arresting a burglar.   Should he be let off the hook just because he says he didn't do it? 

As for evidence -- well, we don't know what evidence exists because the investigation is not yet complete.  It could be there is no evidence. We just don't know that yet.  But bitching and moaning are not going to make this investigation go any faster or better.  Mueller was appointed and an hour later, people complained that the investigation wasn't going fast enough. This is not a TV program where the investigation and trial are done in an hour. It takes time. If Trump and his associates would just shut up and cooperate, this investigation might go a bit faster.

Yeah, sure.... it takes time.   Especially if/when there's no there there.... and if/when your buddies on the left are counting on you to come up with something....ANY thing with which to hang Trump on.

Got it.

And hell.... it's been eight months already.   Another month and we coulda had a baby!!!   9999hair out0000
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2018, 05:48:56 pm »
Sigh! 

Allegations have been made.  The whole point of the investigation is to gather evidence to support those allegations, or if none can be found, to declare the accusations as unfounded. Trump says he did nothing wrong. Ok, but we cannot just take his word for it.  It would be like the police arresting a burglar.   Should he be let off the hook just because he says he didn't do it? 

As for evidence -- well, we don't know what evidence exists because the investigation is not yet complete.  It could be there is no evidence. We just don't know that yet.  But bitching and moaning are not going to make this investigation go any faster or better.  Mueller was appointed and an hour later, people complained that the investigation wasn't going fast enough. This is not a TV program where the investigation and trial are done in an hour. It takes time.  If Trump and his associates would just shut up and cooperate, this investigation might go a bit faster.


Here's the biggest problem with the collusion nonsense.  The intelligence gathering happened under an openly hostile administration and Justice Department.  We've read numerous stories how domestic and foreign intel services watched in real time as 'Fancy Bear' mined data from the DNC.  House and Senate committees have investigated and Democrat members like Feinstein and Schiff have said they've yet to find evidence of collusion.  If there was anything to be found, it would have been, already.  It's way past time to put this issue to bed.
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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2018, 05:51:45 pm »
Yeah, sure.... it takes time.   Especially if/when there's no there there.... and if/when your buddies on the left are counting on you to come up with something....ANY thing with which to hang Trump on.

Got it.

And hell.... it's been eight months already.   Another month and we coulda had a baby!!!   9999hair out0000

It's occurred to me that the reason the investigation is taking so long is because Trump and his associates are stonewalling.

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Re: Gowdy says he trusts Mueller, urges others to 'leave him the hell alone'
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2018, 05:55:13 pm »
Thing is, if Mueller rushed his investigation and came to conclusions that the Trump fanatics didn’t like, they’d be blaming him for a corrupt rush to judgment.

They don’t want an investigation, they want it stopped, no matter what Trump did or didn’t do. 

So better relax for the duration because Mueller is going to take his time to make sure the one thing he cannot be accused of is a rush to judgment. 

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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2018, 05:56:36 pm »
It's occurred to me that the reason the investigation is taking so long is because Trump and his associates are stonewalling.

I don’t know about “stonewalling”, but I think the Administration has mismanaged this "Russia thing" from the git-go.  Members of the Administration raised doubts about their forthcomings when they “forgot” about meetings with Russians (e.g., Sessions), repeatedly amended security clearance forms with meetings with Russians (e.g., Kushner), misled the American public about a meeting with Russians to get “dirt” on Hillary Clinton (e.g., Don Jr., et al), Flynn lied to the VP about Russia, and they changed their rationale about firing the FBI Director. 

I’m not saying any of these things are, in and of themselves, criminal, but If there’s really no there, there, you do yourself a disservice by not doing your homework, not being prepared for testimony/paperwork under threat of perjury, and trying to mislead people about your actions.  I truly believe that had the Administration been forthcoming, honest, and prepared, this whole thing could have been over months ago.  Instead, they’ve been repeatedly unprepared, deceptive, misleading, and inconsistent.  Yet another self-inflicted wound IMO.
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