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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #625 on: June 05, 2018, 05:43:29 pm »
You're all heart, Frank.

He's a very caring and giving individual.  I mean his selfless act, to help fans of the dearly departed get over their grief, albeit in his own way is the stuff of legends.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #626 on: June 05, 2018, 05:49:08 pm »
She used a scarf..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5808813/Kate-Spade-dead-Park-Avenue-apartment-apparent-suicide.html

I didn't see that in the linked article.  Where did you see that?  It would likely eliminate the over the door method unless it was a few tied together.

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #627 on: June 05, 2018, 05:50:52 pm »
I didn't see that in the linked article.  Where did you see that?  It would likely eliminate the over the door method unless it was a few tied together.

Sorry if I am creeping out any by focusing on mechanical details...

I know I looked for it to..it is Drudge's headline
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #628 on: June 05, 2018, 05:54:37 pm »
Merged Kate Spade thread into Obituaries

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #629 on: June 05, 2018, 06:12:06 pm »
Merged Kate Spade thread into Obituaries

If this important story is jammed into the Obit section, I'm going to demand all John McCain is dead stories sent here too.

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #630 on: June 05, 2018, 06:13:53 pm »
Depression can be quite awful
Who said it was depression?

Most suicides are related to chronic pain, not depression. If she had a 13-year-old daughter, she had to have known that killing herself would've caused even more problems, which should have stopped her.

Either that, or some unsavory characters were about to catch up with her.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #631 on: June 05, 2018, 06:14:11 pm »
If this important story is jammed into the Obit section, I'm going to demand all John McCain is dead stories sent here too.


John McCain and Timothy Leary are outside looking in.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #632 on: June 05, 2018, 06:15:57 pm »
If this important story is jammed into the Obit section, I'm going to demand all John McCain is dead stories sent here too.

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #633 on: June 05, 2018, 06:17:30 pm »
If this important story is jammed into the Obit section, I'm going to demand all John McCain is dead stories sent here too.

Ugh, agreed.  This was a bad move.

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #634 on: June 05, 2018, 06:19:20 pm »
Yeah I had to look for it too... :whistle:
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« Reply #635 on: June 05, 2018, 06:23:12 pm »

John McCain and Timothy Leary are outside looking in.

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #636 on: June 05, 2018, 06:23:13 pm »
name change
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #637 on: June 05, 2018, 06:24:35 pm »
name change

You'll break the feed!.  Proll a good thing!   :amen:
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« Reply #638 on: June 05, 2018, 06:25:12 pm »
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #639 on: June 05, 2018, 06:26:22 pm »
You'll break the feed!.  Proll a good thing!   :amen:

It got broke when it was move to Obits
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« Reply #640 on: June 05, 2018, 06:27:38 pm »
It got broke when it was move to Obits

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #641 on: June 05, 2018, 07:03:44 pm »
Who said it was depression?

Most suicides are related to chronic pain, not depression. If she had a 13-year-old daughter, she had to have known that killing herself would've caused even more problems, which should have stopped her.

Either that, or some unsavory characters were about to catch up with her.
The New York Daily News story cited an unidentified source as saying she had "problems at home"; the paper also said she left a note for her daughter saying,
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #643 on: June 05, 2018, 07:59:10 pm »
Most suicides are related to chronic pain, not depression.

Do you have anything to support that claim?
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #644 on: June 05, 2018, 09:50:39 pm »
Do you have anything to support that claim?
Mostly anecdotes, especially among high-profile or famous people. Three off the top of my head that fit the chronic pain narrative are Dick Trickle, Hunter S. Thompson and Ray Combs. Then there was the case of Don Lapre who fits the "avoid those going after you" narrative (in Lapre's case, the feds, since he was being investigated for fraud).

Depression alone, from the cases I've seen, is generally pretty rare as an impetus for suicide, except in teenagers. Not that it doesn't happen (see: Sylvia Plath, Freddie Prinze Sr.) but that it isn't a leading cause and we shouldn't assume it as such.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #645 on: June 05, 2018, 11:36:59 pm »
Kate Spade died as the result of suicide

Wife was shocked I never heard of this lady.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #646 on: June 05, 2018, 11:42:35 pm »
Ugh, agreed.  This was a bad move.

Tell me about it. We finally generated a high post thread that didn't involve people fighting with each other and the Mod pours cold water all over it.

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #647 on: June 06, 2018, 01:05:22 am »
Mostly anecdotes, especially among high-profile or famous people. Three off the top of my head that fit the chronic pain narrative are Dick Trickle, Hunter S. Thompson and Ray Combs. Then there was the case of Don Lapre who fits the "avoid those going after you" narrative (in Lapre's case, the feds, since he was being investigated for fraud).

Depression alone, from the cases I've seen, is generally pretty rare as an impetus for suicide, except in teenagers. Not that it doesn't happen (see: Sylvia Plath, Freddie Prinze Sr.) but that it isn't a leading cause and we shouldn't assume it as such.

Keith Emerson was probably both.  His hands were failing because of the multiple Carpal Tunnel surgeries, and fans were starting to tell him he'd lost it, and to stop playing.  He had both the pain and probably the depression from losing his gift.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #648 on: June 06, 2018, 01:49:13 am »
Keith Emerson was probably both.  His hands were failing because of the multiple Carpal Tunnel surgeries, and fans were starting to tell him he'd lost it, and to stop playing.  He had both the pain and probably the depression from losing his gift.
Indeed, and both probably intertwine with each other.

In Mrs. Spade's case, however, we don't know much, and we may never know.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #649 on: June 06, 2018, 10:35:34 am »
I see Kate Spade as Sylvia Plath. Very talented, intelligent and stupid. No man (or woman) is worth suiciding over. Especially if there are minor children.

I wish I could have spoken to her or counseled her. I would have saved her. I’ve saved other suicides. I know in my heart of hearts I could have saved her. 

I’m going to use my kate Spade bag today. In her memory. One of the nicest birthday presents I ever received.
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