Why I’m Still a NeverTrumper

[Silver Pines]

I'm part of the Stealers Wheel contingent. Trump is what we got, and we may not like some of the circus that surrounds him, or his rough awkwardness at times, but he's there for 4 years.

But unlike Obama, there is a decent chance that if Congress will step up to the plate, we might get some good things done.

If Trump goes liberal, then I'm going to run away on fire.

So far, so good, and we'll see what happens tommorow.

@Free Vulcan

I don’t know what the Stealer’s Wheel contingent is, but yes, it’s true that some good things have come out of this administration.   I’ll give Trump credit when due and I’ll bust him when he deserves it. 

The busting is what some have a problem with.  They won’t settle for anything less than unconditional accolades.  Like I said, the Palin lovers were nothing compared to hardcore Trump fans.

[bigheadfred]

@Free Vulcan

I don’t know what the Stealer’s Wheel contingent is, but yes, it’s true that some good things have come out of this administration.   I’ll give Trump credit when due and I’ll bust him when he deserves it. 

The busting is what some have a problem with.  They won’t settle for anything less than unconditional accolades.  Like I said, the Palin lovers were nothing compared to hardcore Trump fans.

That is the thing. They make it way too personal. And they get that attitude from HIM-the way he acts. I am MORE critical of other politicians. To some people any criticism of trump and they treat you like you are the dingo that just ate their baby.

[Silver Pines]

That is the thing. They make it way too personal. And they get that attitude from HIM-the way he acts. I am MORE critical of other politicians. To some people any criticism of trump and they treat you like you are the dingo that just ate their baby.

@bigheadfred

I’ll be honest, I have wondered if one or two here are related in some way to Trump or to Melania.
It’s like a part time job, working as hard as possible to “sell” him to everybody else.  It’s...well, it’s devotion. 

[bigheadfred]

@bigheadfred

I’ll be honest, I have wondered if one or two here are related in some way to Trump or to Melania.
It’s like a part time job, working as hard as possible to “sell” him to everybody else.  It’s...well, it’s devotion.

Maybe they should try to sell vacuum cleaners instead. Maybe it is also devolution. They've turned into lemmings. They are devoted to their cause.

[Silver Pines]

Maybe they should try to sell vacuum cleaners instead. Maybe it is also devolution. They've turned into lemmings. They are devoted to their cause.

@bigheadfred

Well, I'll be swimming backward against that current, because I never saw a politician worth all of the breathless love and outrage.

Come on *takes Fred's hand*.

[bigheadfred]

@bigheadfred

Well, I'll be swimming backward against that current, because I never saw a politician worth all of the breathless love and outrage.

Come on *takes Fred's hand*.

Absolutely.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Free Vulcan

Personally, at this point, I don’t think Trump is nearly as bad as some of his supporters.  My God, I thought the Sarah Palin nuts were insufferable.

Every time I start to liking what Trump is doing, somebody comes along crowing about it so much, trying to get me to worship the man and rubbing my nose in something, and I find myself distrusting him again.  It's weird.  It's like they don't want me on their side at all.  It's ironic because I've never taken a "side" concerning Donald Trump.

I think I like the way @INVAR puts it.  Even though we all agree on the issues at hand, he's been declared an enemy and is treated as such.

[GrouchoTex]

For those suggesting we don't like blunt truth, and this is why the NeverTrumpers still exist, I think that is hilarious.

I am not NT, but just a few weeks ago, he came out and said he.d accomplished more in his first year than any other President, breaking Truman's record.

This is a lie, and it is researchable.
Maybe he did more than Truman, but from Kennedy to Obama, he came in dead last.

Blunt truth? Try telling it, on occasion.
And, of course, the MSM should be held to this standard as well.

It just everybody lyin' to everybody else, now.

I really don't trust any of them now.

[LMAO]

This is why the left is still NeverTrump:

“Nearly a year into his takeover of Washington, President Trump has made a significant down payment on his campaign pledge to shrink the federal bureaucracy, a shift long sought by conservatives that could eventually bring the workforce down to levels not seen in decades.

By the end of September, all Cabinet departments except Homeland Security, Veterans Affairs and Interior had fewer permanent staff than when Trump took office in January — with most shedding many hundreds of employees, according to an analysis of federal personnel data by The Washington Post.”

Read more:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-trump-era-is-changing-the-federal-bureaucracy/2017/12/30/8d5149c6-daa7-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?utm_term=.ca0079883888

What’s your excuse why you’re still NeverTrump?

This is a positive.

But more cuts are needed. And Trump may find that his promise to not touch SS or Medicare cannot be kept. But this is a good start

[musiclady]

For those suggesting we don't like blunt truth, and this is why the NeverTrumpers still exist, I think that is hilarious.

I am not NT, but just a few weeks ago, he came out and said he.d accomplished more in his first year than any other President, breaking Truman's record.

This is a lie, and it is researchable.
Maybe he did more than Truman, but from Kennedy to Obama, he came in dead last.

Blunt truth? Try telling it, on occasion.
And, of course, the MSM should be held to this standard as well.

It just everybody lyin' to everybody else, now.

I really don't trust any of them now.

What I wonder is, why do AT's not mind that he tells lies all the time??

How can you idolize anyone who is so deeply dishonest?

I don't get it. 

[Cripplecreek]

What I wonder is, why do AT's not mind that he tells lies all the time??

How can you idolize anyone who is so deeply dishonest?

I don't get it. 

If they admit it, it comes with the "God uses imperfect men" canard as a qualifier.

George Washington was an imperfect man, Trump is somewhat less. Anyone who has ever read Washington's Rules of Civility would know that George Washington would have had little use for a vulgar and petty man like Trump.

[musiclady]

If they admit it, it comes with the "God uses imperfect men" canard as a qualifier.

George Washington was an imperfect man, Trump is somewhat less. Anyone who has ever read Washington's Rules of Civility would know that George Washington would have had little use for a vulgar and petty man like Trump.

I can think of no greater contrast between two human beings than between the noble, honorable George Washington, and the vulgar, dishonest Donald Trump.

No matter what he does that I might 'like' it is still a disgrace that he was elected to the highest office in this land.

[Cripplecreek]

I can think of no greater contrast between two human beings than between the noble, honorable George Washington, and the vulgar, dishonest Donald Trump.

No matter what he does that I might 'like' it is still a disgrace that he was elected to the highest office in this land.

Character counts.

The behavior of Trump and the behavior of those who have chosen to act just like him are going to cost us dearly.

[musiclady]

Character counts.

The behavior of Trump and the behavior of those who have chosen to act just like him are going to cost us dearly.

As my tagline says............. character ALWAYS matters.

[Cripplecreek]

As my tagline says............. character ALWAYS matters.

I see Former Milwaukee sheriff David Clarke was banned from twitter yesterday for warning the media that "You will taste your own blood soon"

[Silver Pines]

Every time I start to liking what Trump is doing, somebody comes along crowing about it so much, trying to get me to worship the man and rubbing my nose in something, and I find myself distrusting him again.  It's weird.  It's like they don't want me on their side at all.  It's ironic because I've never taken a "side" concerning Donald Trump.

I think I like the way @INVAR puts it.  Even though we all agree on the issues at hand, he's been declared an enemy and is treated as such.

@Cyber Liberty

That's all true.  Also, I have trouble believing that "conversions" from anti- to pro-Trump would be met with anything but derision.  They say no one gives him credit, but when it's done right in front of their faces, they ignore it and refuse to acknowledge it. Guess it doesn't serve the narrative. 

They need NTs; they're convenient for absorbing blame.

[Silver Pines]

I see Former Milwaukee sheriff David Clarke was banned from twitter yesterday for warning the media that "You will taste your own blood soon"

@Cripplecreek


That guy needs to be on meds.

[musiclady]

I see Former Milwaukee sheriff David Clarke was banned from twitter yesterday for warning the media that "You will taste your own blood soon"

I used to like that guy.  What happened to him?

[Cyber Liberty]

I used to like that guy.  What happened to him?

He "snapped."  It's a term used to describe what happens to Moonies.  Has something to do with that picture of a hard-backed chair I posted the other day.

[Cripplecreek]

@Cripplecreek


That guy needs to be on meds.

He's one of the fame junkies and he's growing rabid in his desperation for a fix.

[Cripplecreek]

He "snapped."  It's a term used to describe what happens to Moonies.  Has something to do with that picture of a hard-backed chair I posted the other day.

What I like about Detroit police chief James Craig is the way he handles fame. He gives an interview about needing armed citizens to protect themselves and then he goes right back to work and you don't hear from him for a while.

[musiclady]

He's one of the fame junkies and he's growing rabid in his desperation for a fix.

Did Fox News do that to him?

[Night Hides Not]

For those suggesting we don't like blunt truth, and this is why the NeverTrumpers still exist, I think that is hilarious.

I am not NT, but just a few weeks ago, he came out and said he.d accomplished more in his first year than any other President, breaking Truman's record.

This is a lie, and it is researchable.
Maybe he did more than Truman, but from Kennedy to Obama, he came in dead last.

Blunt truth? Try telling it, on occasion.
And, of course, the MSM should be held to this standard as well.

It just everybody lyin' to everybody else, now.

I really don't trust any of them now.

All Truman did in his first year was end WWII. I don’t think Trump matched that, although ISIS was mostly defeated.

[Cripplecreek]

All Truman did in his first year was end WWII. I don’t think Trump matched that, although ISIS was mostly defeated.

I wouldn't get too excited about the defeat of ISIS. More likely they're following the same path as Al Qeada and dispersing only to refom as something else in coming months.

[Night Hides Not]

I wouldn't get too excited about the defeat of ISIS. More likely they're following the same path as Al Qeada and dispersing only to refom as something else in coming months.

My apologies if I left that impression. Comparing ISIS to the Japanese military of WWII is like comparing an elementary school squad to an NFL team, even the Cleveland Browns.