Text of a Letter from the President to the Congress of the United States -

[RoosGirl]

Like I said.....

"My fellow Americans.   If you want a nation of laws - not of men, where nobody is indeed above the law, then we must make it our DUTY to get off the couch and vote this corruption out.

Without unbiased judges, they will continue to skirt the laws and thumb their noses at all of us.

It's why Chucky Schumer has obstructed the confirmation of many of our nominated judges."


...a campaign issue on a silver platter, IMO.   Hillary's approval rating is what?  33%??

And Trump's approval rating is at a whopping 37%.  What's your point?

[libertybele]

Yeah, if this were an Obama EO everyone here would be screaming about it.

Exactly.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yeah, if this were an Obama EO everyone here would be screaming about it.

It took the combined efforts of @DCPatriot and me to get people talking about it at all.  I posted the actual EO and the only other person to post on that thread was Mrs. Liberty.

[Cyber Liberty]

Come on D.C., do you really think he's going to issue an e.o. to specifically target the Clinton's and Bammy?? IMHO, he's not going to touch them.  No, this e.o. is directed towards us.  It is a direct violation of our 4th amendment rights and in essence can also trample on our 2nd amendment rights because if I'm understanding this e.o. correctly, it gives the gov't the right to seize/confiscate our weapons.  What about those who have purchased gold?  Silver?  Land?  The list is endless.  Blatant overreach my friend!

If you want to know precisely who it's pointed at, there is a list of names in the Annex portion of the EO itself.  I posted a link to it on the thread I posted with the EO.

[EdJames]

My advice, everyone should take a depth breath and actually read the executive order, as posted elsewhere, or at this link:


https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/12/26/2017-27925/blocking-the-property-of-persons-involved-in-serious-human-rights-abuse-or-corruption

You can also get some more details at the Treasury page:

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm0243

[libertybele]

If you want to know precisely who it's pointed at, there is a list of names in the Annex portion of the EO itself.  I posted a link to it on the thread I posted with the EO.

I went back and read the post, but I think we agree, that it could very easily also be aimed at American citizens; perhaps not his intent, but nonetheless, I still see it as overreach.

[DCPatriot]

And Trump's approval rating is at a whopping 37%.  What's your point?

He's not the one who abused a State Department cabinet position with a Pay for Play scheme....that's my point.

[corbe]

    In spite of what some Briefers may think, I do keep my gratitude for Trump much higher than my expectations and I shamelessly live with the fact that I'd rather disturb comfortable people than make disturbed people comfortable, that's why I hang here.

[Fantom]

It took the combined efforts of @DCPatriot and me to get people talking about it at all.  I posted the actual EO and the only other person to post on that thread was Mrs. Liberty.

Which is all good and fine @Cyber Liberty , @DCPatriot  until... with the very third post in this thread..... who takes it off topic and down the "Bad tangent". ... You got it.

No, @corbe   You're cool with me.   You're just 'your standard PIA'....nothing radical about you.

No....I was referring to the early Summer of 2015 Briefer Cabal.

Members like:

They 'KNOW' who they are.

Stop that shit, and you might have a decent conversation.

[Cyber Liberty]

I went back and read the post, but I think we agree, that it could very easily also be aimed at American citizens; perhaps not his intent, but nonetheless, I still see it as overreach.

Section 6 specifically states that US Citizens can be targeted if they have a relationship with the names in the Annex.

[libertybele]

My advice, everyone should take a depth breath and actually read the executive order, as posted elsewhere, or at this link:

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/12/26/2017-27925/blocking-the-property-of-persons-involved-in-serious-human-rights-abuse-or-corruption

You can also get some more details at the Treasury page:

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm0243

Yes and in reading it, it still seizes property within the U.S. ... as determined by the Secy of Treasury in consultation with the Secy of State and the AG....IMHO that leaves the door wide open.

[DCPatriot]

My advice, everyone should take a depth breath and actually read the executive order, as posted elsewhere, or at this link:

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/12/26/2017-27925/blocking-the-property-of-persons-involved-in-serious-human-rights-abuse-or-corruption

You can also get some more details at the Treasury page:

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm0243

Okay, that's fair enough....the list of names in the Annex.

But how many of those names interacted with HER State Department?

Seems to me, you target the little fishes in order to make plea deals to get the big ones.

That strategy works all the way down the line to the one laundering the $$$.

[DCPatriot]

Section 6 specifically states that US Citizens can be targeted if they have a relationship with the names in the Annex.

Exactly.

And how many were being run by the Clintons in some degree?

[Fantom]

    In spite of what some Briefers may think, I do keep my gratitude for Trump much higher than my expectations and I shamelessly live with the fact that I'd rather disturb comfortable people than make disturbed people comfortable, that's why I hang here.

While you may well be disturbed, you're gonna have to up your game on being disturbing. Personally I rate you at a 3.5 for these parts in that dept. 

[libertybele]

Section 6 specifically states that US Citizens can be targeted if they have a relationship with the names in the Annex.

...if they have a relationship with the names in the Annex ... but IMHO ... there's a lot of room for that to be changed or the list broadened ....

[Cyber Liberty]

My advice, everyone should take a depth breath and actually read the executive order, as posted elsewhere, or at this link:

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/12/26/2017-27925/blocking-the-property-of-persons-involved-in-serious-human-rights-abuse-or-corruption

You can also get some more details at the Treasury page:

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm0243

The first link doesn't work.  Here's the EO from Whitehouse.gov:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

[RoosGirl]

It took the combined efforts of @DCPatriot and me to get people talking about it at all.  I posted the actual EO and the only other person to post on that thread was Mrs. Liberty.

No one cares about some upfront Tom Foolery.  I still stand by my statement.  If this were an Obama EO is would be spit upon here.  As it were, because it's from Trump, it is necessarily a wonderful thing and will start to cure the evils of the world. 

Even if it were specifically implemented with the intention of going after Clinton and Obama, it still applies to you and me.  Unintended consequences anyone?

[Cyber Liberty]

Exactly.

And how many were being run by the Clintons in some degree?

It would be worth tracking some of those names down to see if they were Clinton Foundation donors, no?

[corbe]

    @Fantom   

 I tutored under @Frank Cannon for almost a year.  I knew I graduated when he cussed me out~Live.

[Cyber Liberty]

No one cares about some upfront Tom Foolery.  I still stand by my statement.  If this were an Obama EO it would be spit upon here.  As it were, because it's from Trump, it is necessarily a wonderful thing and will start to cure the evils of the world. 

Even if it were specifically implemented with the intention of going after Clinton and Obama, it still applies to you and me.  Unintended consequences anyone?

Look around.  There's plenty of spit on this EO right now.  Some like it, some don't.  Personally, it worries me for the same reason it worries you. 

[EdJames]

Yes and in reading it, it still seizes property within the U.S. ... as determined by the Secy of Treasury in consultation with the Secy of State and the AG....IMHO that leaves the door wide open.

Are you at all familiar with the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act?

Here is a fair summary of what all of this means:

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/global-magnitsky-sanctions-target-human-rights-abuses-and-public-corruption

[Fishrrman]

(sigh)
The Briefingroom's "Seinfeld thread" of the day...   ;)

[EdJames]

(sigh)
The Briefingroom's "Seinfeld thread" of the day...   ;)

Pretty much!

[RoosGirl]

Look around.  There's plenty of spit on this EO right now.  Some like it, some don't.  Personally, it worries me for the same reason it worries you.

Ok fine, you're going to make me say it.  If it were an Obama EO @DCPatriot would be spitting on it, but because it's a Trump EO he is not.

[Fantom]

    @Fantom   

 I tutored under @Frank Cannon for almost a year.  I knew I graduated when he cussed me out~Live.

Heh, that is like admitting you interned for Mitch.... 

Just jokin'.

P.S.  You still have time to edit that before everyone sees it.  @corbe