Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election

[Suppressed]

It would have helped if Moore hadn't shown himself to be an opponent of the Constitution, too. 

"No religious test? Who cares...prophet Roy's interpretation of the Bible trumps that worthless rag!"

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Roy Moore and a buddy are talking. Moore says “I’m Jesus Christ.”

His buddy cocked an eye at him and says, “You’re crazy!”

“I can prove it,” Moore says. His buddy says, “Okay, I’ll bite, prove it.”

Moore takes him into a bar, bartender says, “Jesus Christ, are you back again?!”

lol 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

OAN predicting Moore?   http://www.oann.com/roy-moore-wins-alabama-senate-seat/  Be cautious I guess.... when someone reports such.


One American News Now.

OANN nailed it first.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

What are you talking about?  We won't know who trump backed until the final count is in.

I love it!

[edpc]

@edpc , you and the rest of the RINOs here joined democrats openly trashing Roy. While congress and democrats outspent something in the neighborhood of 12 to 1 against him.  Posters here spreading baseless horrible rumors against him for how many months now with no proof whatsoever? Truth, who needs that? I get the feeling the site manager here got pinged to post article after article that did nothing but spread the lies after someone got tired of doing it. There was few in Roy's corner except oddly enough Breitbart (who turned on Cruz) and a few outlier online news sites and the dyehard of us in Alabama. Trump hid from supporting Moore because his wee feelings got hurt over Strange's loss. Even Cruz disappointed. The Senate leadership never did help, they certainly didn't want Moore's views contrary to their own.

Mo Brooks I was actually proud of... (he was the one I said I could of voted for if Moore lost). There was so much that could of been pointed out in Moore's defense that just got laughed at here at TBR. I would try to point out things like how the black lady police officer's FB page showed she was radical. No response from most here or a flimpant remark discarding what I said and carefully researched. Nobody cared, Roy was just a Christian nut. Make a few more jokes at his expense.

What it shows me is that if the GOP has such disdain for Christian voters it hurts. There is no need for me to vote R anymore. Why vote, they are 99% of the time just going to mock us. I am actually glad I didn't vote for McCain or Romney. They were two of the chief mockers of Moore. Get spit at enough, you learn to stop empowering the phlegm flingers.

Let the GOP go on without me, they no longer care for my vote. They and you will get the world you so deserve, but it will not be one worth envisioning.

Yeah - those of us that ridiculed Moore are the most powerful satirists since Swift and Pope.   

You can find me on a couple threads about that cop, mocking her.  You can blame me for his loss if it makes you feel better, but I'm not a registered AL voter.  Not my fault half the people who voted in 2016 stayed home for this one in a state where Trump stomped Clinton by nearly 28 points.  There was no 30 point freefall for Roy because of anyone on TBR.  Where the money is concerned, Dems threw a lot of it at the special elections where seats were to be filled after Trump appointments.  They're 1-4 in that endeavor. 

Moore was the problem, not anyone or anything else you previously mentioned.  Take the sighin' and cryin' to him.

[TomSea]

At this point, if every write-in vote had gone for Moore (write-ins being in the 21,000 vote range), Moore would have won. It's close. Also, I heard a 25% voter turnout at one juncture, now I'm hearing 40%.

I lost the article but the stuff with Moore, being removed twice from the State Supreme Court, other comments, had the author questioning Roy Moore to begin with, forget the other.

[TomSea]

America dodged a bullet in Alabama last night.

A man who was twice removed from his state’s Supreme Court for defying judicial orders, who said Muslims should not be allowed to serve in elective office, who suggested the black family was better off under slavery, and who declared that homosexuality should be illegal — this man will not be in the United States Senate. Thank God.

https://nypost.com/2017/12/13/roy-moore-needed-to-lose-but-what-does-it-mean-for-2018/

Just posting, some of us were a bit uneasy from the get go, forget this other.

[TomSea]

I would think, the race is so close, within 2% points or even tighter, there should be an automatic recount.

[edpc]

I would think, the race is so close, within 2% points or even tighter, there should be an automatic recount.

AL election law says an automatic recount requires a margin of 0.5%.  We're currently outside that.  No idea if the number of uncounted absentee ballots outnumber the margin.

[Neverdul]

Steve Bannon looks like the guy who comes to your house to give you a quote on repaving your driveway.

[edpc]

Steve Bannon looks like the guy who comes to your house to give you a quote on repaving your driveway.

For a few extra bucks, he'll show you the flexibility Scaramucci spoke about.

[Restored]

I just saw a stat that said African Americans came out in higher percentages for Jones than Obama. That tells me the Democrats dumped more money into buying votes for Jones than Obama.

[kevindavis007]

So the reason why that Moore lost was because of:


1. Deep State
2. Mitch McConnell
3. The Media
4. GOPe
5. The Bilderbergers
6. Free Masons
7. The Stonecutters


Not because he was a s**tty candidate...


Ok..

[Smokin Joe]

It would have helped if Moore hadn't shown himself to be an opponent of the Constitution, too. 

"No religious test? Who cares...prophet Roy's interpretation of the Bible trumps that worthless rag!"

Where did he oppose the Constitution?

[kevindavis007]

[kevindavis007]

[Neverdul]

I just saw a stat that said African Americans came out in higher percentages for Jones than Obama. That tells me the Democrats dumped more money into buying votes for Jones than Obama.

I could also have had something to do with Moore having said Blacks were better off under slavery and agreeing with some local conspiracy loon talk show host that all the amendments after the 10th should be repealed. 

[Jazzhead]

There is no need for me to vote R anymore. Why vote, they are 99% of the time just going to mock us. I am actually glad I didn't vote for McCain or Romney. They were two of the chief mockers of Moore. Get spit at enough, you learn to stop empowering the phlegm flingers.

Let the GOP go on without me, they no longer care for my vote. They and you will get the world you so deserve, but it will not be one worth envisioning.

Then be gone.  You never supported the GOP to begin with, not if you didn't vote for McCain or Romney against Obama.    Why are you now so upset that so many couldn't get behind Moore?   Are your tender sensibilities all that matter?
   

[Jazzhead]

I could also have had something to do with Moore having said Blacks were better off under slavery and agreeing with some local conspiracy loon talk show host that all the amendments after the 10th should be repealed. 

Of course.  Moore is just an amazing buffoon.   (His only rival may be Steve Bannon.) 

[mountaineer]

You can't make this stuff up:

Sheila Jackson Lee‏Verified account @JacksonLeeTX18

Sweet home Alabama. Thank you Alabamians and Doug Moore. Good has prevailed and our country is on the way to a new day #ikneel
10:48 PM - 12 Dec 2017

[Jazzhead]

It would have helped if Moore hadn't shown himself to be an opponent of the Constitution, too. 

"No religious test? Who cares...prophet Roy's interpretation of the Bible trumps that worthless rag!"

Bingo.   While evangelicals were tripping over themselves defending Moore's dating of teenagers as just country courtin',   many old school conservatives were appalled by his disregard for the Constitution and the rule of law.   The Republican opposition to Moore was principled,  and grounded in the concern that promoting lawlessness was not the way to long-term success for the GOP and the conservative movement.   

Moore's defeat has several silver linings.   First,  it can fairly be portrayed as an anomaly,  a case of good conservatives (and good Christians) refusing to be sullied by voting for a certified nut.   Second,  evangelicals really, really stepped in it this time,  trading away their moral authority to defend the indefensible.   Third,  the result discredits Steve Bannon,  and by extension his alt-right barnacles.    Fourth,  a victory by Moore would have put the target on the backs of all Republicans running for election in 2018 - as well as President Trump.   The good people of Alabama did their job and rejected a man unfit for the Senate.   Now we don't need to endure the tawdry spectacle of an ethics investigation and the ugly and un-American prospect of overturning the will of the voters. 

 Kudos to the good and reasoned people of the State of Alabama!   

[edpc]

@mountaineer

Sheila hasn’t been this happy since they rescued Matt Damon and the American flag from Mars.

[Jazzhead]

Priceless!   And true . . .

[Jazzhead]

Yeah, well just comfort yourself with that thought when a Democrat-controlled Senate shitcans Trump's next SCOTUS pick.

Well, maybe the silver lining is Republicans refusing to allow the ends to justify the means will lead to better candidates and better solidarity down the road.   

[Jazzhead]

Perfect comeback?  No.  But I definitely would have made myself accessible to the voters and the press instead of hiding myself for months after botching a Sean Hannity interview.

Good point.   Many reacted to the Hannity interview with the distinct impression that Moore had something to hide.   

And then just two public appearances in the last week?   Sometimes running out the clock is a good strategy - but not under circumstances like this where the scent of victory had the Dems and their voters motivated.