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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2017, 06:54:26 pm »
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2017, 06:57:24 pm »
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2017, 07:18:54 pm »
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I am afraid I have to admit it took me a couple minutes to spot it. 

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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2017, 07:20:53 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 01, 2017, 07:18:54 pm
I am afraid I have to admit it took me a couple minutes to spot it. 

It took me more than that...
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2017, 07:33:26 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 01, 2017, 07:18:54 pm
I am afraid I have to admit it took me a couple minutes to spot it. 

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In case others have problems...

Answer Key: The reporter in red is just out of the frame of the camera angle with the reporter in white. 


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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2017, 07:41:42 pm »
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In case others have problems...

Answer Key: The reporter in red is just out of the frame of the camera angle with the reporter in white. 


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Spoiler.  :tongue2:
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2017, 07:48:39 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on November 01, 2017, 04:44:56 pm
I do not consider the Abrahamic God to be a false god.   Differences in dogma and concepts of worship do not change the reality that Muslims worship the same God as you or I do.   Maybe God gives a damn about such differences, maybe He doesn't.

It depends on the meaning of the word "worship."

If "worship" to a muslim is killing infidels in the name of their God, is that the same God as Jews and Christians worship.

It seems to me the muslims have both the dogma and the God wrong.

The muslims' founding prophet was clearly a man of violence, so it would follow their beliefs are not Christ-like. Hence the wrong God.

The muslims' God is the God of Muhamed., not of Christ.
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2017, 07:59:10 pm »
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It depends on the meaning of the word "worship."

If "worship" to a muslim is killing infidels in the name of their God, is that the same God as Jews and Christians worship.

It seems to me the muslims have both the dogma and the God wrong.

The muslims' founding prophet was clearly a man of violence, so it would follow their beliefs are not Christ-like. Hence the wrong God.

The muslims' God is the God of Muhamed., not of Christ.

The fact that he considers them the same "god" tells me a lot more about JH than he wants to be known. 
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2017, 08:03:57 pm »
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2017, 09:58:55 pm »
The US attorney speaking at announcement of charges also translated incorrectly that the jihadi said, "God is great."
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2017, 12:26:21 am »
The Jazzed-up head wrote:
"Different dogmas, same God."

Nope.
God and allah ARE NOT "the same God".
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2017, 12:31:01 am »
Quote from: Fishrrman on November 02, 2017, 12:26:21 am
The Jazzed-up head wrote:
"Different dogmas, same God."

Nope.
God and allah ARE NOT "the same God".

He loves the word, "dogma."  I think it reminds him of a childhood pet.
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2017, 12:55:24 am »
Quote from: musiclady on November 01, 2017, 04:02:46 pm
Absolutely not the "same God."   Try doing some actual research, using Christian Scriptures, and you will see that the God of Christian Scriptures, is not the same as Mohammed's. 


TRUE. And in the end, why I always call my God by his Name. Whether Jehovah, Yahowah, Yahovah, Yahweh, or by the tetragrammaton YHWH - These are examples of 'the same God'...  Likewise 'lord', which is interchangeable with the word 'ba'al'

Hos 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi (husband); and shalt call me no more Baali (Lord).

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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2017, 01:00:56 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on November 01, 2017, 04:40:39 pm
Christian scriptures are irrelevant (and besides, they predate the rise of Islam by centuries).   What matters is that Muslims believe they worship the same God as you and I do.   You may disagree, but that doesn't change the reality that the same Abrahamic God is worshiped by Jews, Christians and Muslims.   The dogmas are different, and as Mountaineer says each religion's concept of God is different - but the God is the same.

No. Muslims can also lie to infidels, and do with abandon (or Abaddon, if you will).

Different and opposed prophecies.
Different and opposed agents.
Different and opposed commandments.

Different gods.

Muslims may believe what they wish, but they do not worship the same god.
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2017, 12:16:49 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on November 02, 2017, 12:26:21 am
The Jazzed-up head wrote:
"Different dogmas, same God."

Nope.
God and allah ARE NOT "the same God".

According to Muslims, He is.    The identity of the God that Muslims worship is a matter of Muslim scripture, not Christian scripture.    Just as Muslim scripture has no bearing on what Christians believe the identity of God is.   

All three religions - Judaism,  Christianity and Islam - worship the same Abrahamic God.   
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2017, 12:19:57 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 01, 2017, 07:59:10 pm
The fact that he considers them the same "god" tells me a lot more about JH than he wants to be known.

That's a false accusation.   I've never stated my opinion on the matter, which is irrelevant in any case.   What I've said is - read this very slowly - is that all three religions - Judaism,  Christianity and Islam - worship the same Abrahamic God.   
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2017, 12:21:45 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on November 02, 2017, 12:16:49 pm
All three religions - Judaism,  Christianity and Islam - worship the same Abrahamic God.   

No.  All claim overlapping history.  There is a difference.
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2017, 12:38:45 pm »
Quote from: thackney on November 02, 2017, 12:21:45 pm
No.  All claim overlapping history.  There is a difference.

Overlapping history - of course.

Fundamentally different dogmas - of course (including, most fundamentally, the role and status of Jesus Christ).

But the following statements are each true:

Jews believe they worship the Abrahamic God

Christians believe they worship the Abrahamic God

Muslims believe they worship the Abrahamic God 
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2017, 12:42:15 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on November 02, 2017, 12:38:45 pm
But the following statements are each true:

Jews believe they worship the Abrahamic God

Christians believe they worship the Abrahamic God

Muslims believe they worship the Abrahamic God

All true.  But I can claim the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a new form of the Abrahamic God.  My made up claims does not make that the same God.  That is a false god.

Which is why Jews and Christians are considered infidels in the Quran.
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2017, 12:54:25 pm »
Quote from: thackney on November 02, 2017, 12:42:15 pm
All true.  But I can claim the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a new form of the Abrahamic God.  My made up claims does not make that the same God.  That is a false god.

Which is why Jews and Christians are considered infidels in the Quran.

And Christians believe Muslims (and Jews) are going to hell because they don't accept Jesus as the Son of God.   What's your point?   That the three religions are at loggerheads?   There are three possibilities, I guess -  one is right, all are right or none are right.    You and I will both find out when we die.   
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2017, 12:54:46 pm »
Quote from: thackney on November 02, 2017, 12:42:15 pm
All true.  But I can claim the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a new form of the Abrahamic God.  My made up claims does not make that the same God.  That is a false god.

Which is why Jews and Christians are considered infidels in the Quran.

In AD2017, only one of the mentioned religions considers membership in the other two a killing offense.  A fact that is consistently failed to be understood by some who consider themselves to be the moral betters, to the peril of all.
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2017, 12:59:49 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on November 02, 2017, 12:54:25 pm
There are three possibilities, I guess -  one is right, all are right or none are right.

Not possible.

John 14:6
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2017, 01:19:36 pm »
Quote from: thackney on November 02, 2017, 12:59:49 pm
Not possible.

John 14:6

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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2017, 01:20:45 pm »
Quote from: thackney on November 02, 2017, 12:59:49 pm
Not possible.

John 14:6

I'm no expert, but doesn't the Ba'hai faith more or less believe that God sent different messages/messengers to different parts of the world?   While humans persecute each other over religion and race to proselytize, maybe God accepts sincere belief regardless of the particular dogma.

I don't know.   Maybe someday I will.  Maybe not.   That's why it's called the Grand Secret.   
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Re: WATCH: CNN Falsely Claims That Terrorist Said 'God Is Great' Instead Of 'Allahu Akbar'
« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2017, 01:22:01 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 02, 2017, 01:19:36 pm
He's bought into the bs being spouted by Francis Beckwith on this subject and is gonna run with it no matter how much we try to show him he's wrong.

I've never heard of Francis Beckwith.   
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