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There are like 4 or 5 conservative media news outlets on cable these days. Don't be stupid.
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These aren't mistakes or a difference in opinion.  These are out and out lies.

Says who? Of course Trump says they are lies. How many lies has Trump been in caught telling over the years?  More than I can count. If this is a lie, then it should be provable as a lie.  Otherwise it is just Trump being Trump.

However, a US President threatening to punish the press using the power of a government agency under his control, over reporting that is unfavorable to him is more than a bit disturbing. It is damn right scary.

And it sets a very bad precedent that wouldn't be easy to turn back. 

Some of you think it is a good idea when it’s your guy subverting the Constitution.  When the next democrat gets in office you will be signing the exact opposite tune no doubt.

Hell Obama said things critical of Fox and their reporting (to be more precise – I think it was more their opinion and editorial content) but I don’t recall Obama ever threatening to sic the FCC on them the way Trump has. 

FWIW, somewhere Richard Nixon is thinking, “Damn! All I had to do was call Watergate “fake news” and threaten to shut down the Washington Post?”
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Since no one bothered to read the link I provided, here's a quote from it.

And there is more, direct quotes to Reuters that he does indeed thing the US nuke arsenal should be expanded.  So now he is lying about saying that he said such a thing, and using that lie to threaten NBC.

Instead of trying to stifle freedom of the press, perhaps Trump supporters should look for evidence that Trump didn't advocate for such an increase in the nuclear arsenal -- that is, whether the NBC report is really a lie or the truth.  Just because Trump is accusing NBC of putting out a false report doesn't mean the report is indeed false.   

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You will hear from me that it doesn't go nearly far enough.   We need to be bringing whatever weapon to bear that we are able against  the media-weapon that has been f***ing up the country since at least Nixon/Kennedy.   

They are the propaganda corps of the New York/Washington Establishment,  and we need to force control of them out of the hands of Liberal agents.

Sorry, but I will not go for putting them out of business.  Dictators do that.  This country is not a dictatorship...yet.

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These aren't mistakes or a difference in opinion.  These are out and out lies.


And out and out censorship of information damaging to Democrats.   
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I think we all get First Amendment rights ... however, defamation of character is quite another issue; especially purposefully lying about the actions and comments about the President of the U.S.


Lying through a trillion dollar broadcasting system is a deliberate attempt to manipulate elections,  and this deprives us of "consent." 

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As much as I'd like to hammer these guys, I'm not sure the gain is worth the risk. The MSM is declining and only seems to have influence with our scared GOP congress people.

Other than that most people today get their news from the internet. The horse is already long out the barn door.
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Sorry, but I will not go for putting them out of business.  Dictators do that.  This country is not a dictatorship...yet.

Trump sycophants want to turn it into one. They're more anti-liberty than democrats.

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He's a public figure. Is Trump such a whining bleep that he needs the government to intervene?


The Economy is a shambles under George HW Bush.   "It's the economy stupid!"   


1992 was the year the media-weapon stole an election from us by lying to US population at large. 




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The biggest scandal this year (Imran Awan)  and I haven't heard a f***ing word from the New York/Washington controlled media-weapon. 


The media-weapon is the tool of the deep state,   and it will not be used against it's own.

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Nothing will come of this just like basically nothing has come of any of the crap Trump tweets about (NFL excepting).
Trump is extremely successful in bypassing the liberal media in his tweets.  It is unfiltered, which the media hates (and sometimes gets him in trouble).  It is the only way a non-liberal President can get his message out past the liberal media.
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Says who? Of course Trump says they are lies. How many lies has Trump been in caught telling over the years?  More than I can count. If this is a lie, then it should be provable as a lie.  Otherwise it is just Trump being Trump.

However, a US President threatening to punish the press using the power of a government agency under his control, over reporting that is unfavorable to him is more than a bit disturbing. It is damn right scary.

And it sets a very bad precedent that wouldn't be easy to turn back. 

Some of you think it is a good idea when it’s your guy subverting the Constitution.  When the next democrat gets in office you will be signing the exact opposite tune no doubt.

Hell Obama said things critical of Fox and their reporting (to be more precise – I think it was more their opinion and editorial content) but I don’t recall Obama ever threatening to sic the FCC on them the way Trump has. 

FWIW, somewhere Richard Nixon is thinking, “Damn! All I had to do was call Watergate “fake news” and threaten to shut down the Washington Post?”

Relax.  There is no way that Trump can shut down any part of the media.  He's just venting.

And, by the way, Obama nor The Clinton's have no reason to threaten the media.  The media constantly flattered them, covered for them and fawned over them.

But a lot of people are shutting down the media as individuals by not watching or subscribing or reading leftist press.
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And out and out censorship of information damaging to Democrats.


So basically you want censorship.
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So basically you want censorship.

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So basically you're ok with censorship that benefits the leftists.


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Trump is extremely successful in bypassing the liberal media in his tweets.  It is unfiltered, which the media hates (and sometimes gets him in trouble).  It is the only way a non-liberal President can get his message out past the liberal media.

I kinda agree.  I cannot recall a president ever being attacked so blatantly by the press.

I only wish Trump would get an editor for his tweets.  The points could be made in a more presidential manner.
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So basically you're ok with censorship that benefits the leftists.


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I want no censorship.
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Instead of trying to stifle freedom of the press, perhaps Trump supporters should look for evidence that Trump didn't advocate for such an increase in the nuclear arsenal -- that is, whether the NBC report is really a lie or the truth.  Just because Trump is accusing NBC of putting out a false report doesn't mean the report is indeed false.

Saying that Trump and supporters are trying to stifle the press is just plain garbage; rather they are trying to stop false reporting. You are right, just because Trump is making accusations doesn't make them so,  but in the same light the news stories that NBC and most of the MSM are reporting doesn't mean that what they are reporting is accurate. They are no longer journalist striving to report the news accurately and without bias; they are a bunch of reporters who relay news in such a way as to sway their leftist viewpoints and agenda.

Nope.  I've never been a Trump supporter, yet I certainly can see the media circus that continues and the circus inside the halls of Congress is just as bad. I still believe Trump to be a narcissist with liberal tendencies....that's who he is.  I think he has displayed some very admirable patriotism and currently believe he has done some good and I still am darn thankful we don't have Clinton and after 8 years of Bammy, Trump is a breath of fresh air.
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Saying that Trump and supporters are trying to stifle the press is just plain garbage; rather they are trying to stop false reporting. You are right, just because Trump is making accusations doesn't make them so,  but in the same light the news stories that NBC and most of the MSM are reporting doesn't mean that what they are reporting is accurate. They are no longer journalist striving to report the news accurately and without bias; they are a bunch of reporters who relay news in such a way as to sway their leftist viewpoints and agenda.

Nope.  I've never been a Trump supporter, yet I certainly can see the media circus that continues and the circus inside the halls of Congress is just as bad. I still believe Trump to be a narcissist with liberal tendencies....that's who he is.  I think he has displayed some very admirable patriotism and currently believe he has done some good and I still am darn thankful we don't have Clinton and after 8 years of Bammy, Trump is a breath of fresh air.

I've already posted a link with a direct interview between Reuters and Trump where he says he wants to increase the US Nuke arsenal.  Are you still going to believe that in this case the media is lying?

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Instead of trying to stifle freedom of the press, perhaps Trump supporters should look for evidence that Trump didn't advocate for such an increase in the nuclear arsenal -- that is, whether the NBC report is really a lie or the truth.  Just because Trump is accusing NBC of putting out a false report doesn't mean the report is indeed false.

Thank you for being one person that can pay attention.  ^-^

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I want no censorship.

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You already have censorship.  Censorship which is controlled by people who have openly stated they want to bring down America.  In many cases the decisions are being made by foreign nationals.

People who have no issue depriving you of any and all rights up  to and including your life.
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The Economy is a shambles under George HW Bush.   "It's the economy stupid!"   


1992 was the year the media-weapon stole an election from us by lying to US population at large.

NOPE. Read my lips.

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Says who? Of course Trump says they are lies. How many lies has Trump been in caught telling over the years?  More than I can count. If this is a lie, then it should be provable as a lie.  Otherwise it is just Trump being Trump.

However, a US President threatening to punish the press using the power of a government agency under his control, over reporting that is unfavorable to him is more than a bit disturbing. It is damn right scary.

And it sets a very bad precedent that wouldn't be easy to turn back. 

Some of you think it is a good idea when it’s your guy subverting the Constitution.  When the next democrat gets in office you will be signing the exact opposite tune no doubt.

Hell Obama said things critical of Fox and their reporting (to be more precise – I think it was more their opinion and editorial content) but I don’t recall Obama ever threatening to sic the FCC on them the way Trump has. 

FWIW, somewhere Richard Nixon is thinking, “Damn! All I had to do was call Watergate “fake news” and threaten to shut down the Washington Post?”

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Its not limited to this one issue.   The MSM lies all the time, they hide information all the time, they push their political agenda, ALL THE TIME
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Instead of trying to stifle freedom of the press, perhaps Trump supporters should look for evidence that Trump didn't advocate for such an increase in the nuclear arsenal -- that is, whether the NBC report is really a lie or the truth.  Just because Trump is accusing NBC of putting out a false report doesn't mean the report is indeed false.

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And what would that accomplish?  You NTs won't even listen but you expect the MSM to acknowledge their lies?   
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Saying that Trump and supporters are trying to stifle the press is just plain garbage; rather they are trying to stop false reporting. You are right, just because Trump is making accusations doesn't make them so,  but in the same light the news stories that NBC and most of the MSM are reporting doesn't mean that what they are reporting is accurate. They are no longer journalist striving to report the news accurately and without bias; they are a bunch of reporters who relay news in such a way as to sway their leftist viewpoints and agenda.

Nope.  I've never been a Trump supporter, yet I certainly can see the media circus that continues and the circus inside the halls of Congress is just as bad. I still believe Trump to be a narcissist with liberal tendencies....that's who he is.  I think he has displayed some very admirable patriotism and currently believe he has done some good and I still am darn thankful we don't have Clinton and after 8 years of Bammy, Trump is a breath of fresh air.

Me, too, libertybell.  By the way, some people get really ticked off if we say that Trump is better than Clinton.

They claim that this is a worn out excuse for defending Trump.  In fact, it is the honest truth.  Hillary would have continued in Obama's shoes and pushed the nation further into socialism, acceptance of illegals and a blind eye on terrorism.

I can't defend Trump on everything but I think he's been a decent president so far and accomplished a lot of goals in spite of being thwarted by Senate rinos.

I simply will not go down the road of attacking Trump based on his tweets.
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Saying that Trump and supporters are trying to stifle the press is just plain garbage; rather they are trying to stop false reporting. You are right, just because Trump is making accusations doesn't make them so,  but in the same light the news stories that NBC and most of the MSM are reporting doesn't mean that what they are reporting is accurate. They are no longer journalist striving to report the news accurately and without bias; they are a bunch of reporters who relay news in such a way as to sway their leftist viewpoints and agenda.


While I would lightly agree with the monopoly angle (which would really be hard to prove). The US government, especially the FED is not the watchdog and arbiter of truth.

Be VERY careful what you wish for, because the next Democrat controlled government may well be right around the corner. What is established today will be used later to clear the tables of Conservative sources.

The better solution is Conservative watchdogs in the press itself - Ben Shapiro style.
The shock in this election cycle was in finding out that the entirety of Conservative commentary was in the bag - From FOX, to Drudge, to Breitbart, to all of the talking heads.

The thing to do is establish new press leaders in the Conservative press, and quit paying attention to New York and LA.

But using the Federal government to exercise your will is a dire mistake, of monumental proportions.