McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore

[jmyrlefuller]

So, what is it you want to see, @Right_in_Virginia?  Not sure what you're advocating.

The same thing the Trump Caucus has always advocated: groupthink.

[jpsb]

Well, there's like, four of them... So maybe just get together for a beer and some backslapping. 

There numbers are growing expect a few more after the 2018 elections.

[jpsb]

Dammit, jpsb, all the certified Trump supporters are dissing the dude... why aren't you in line?

Plus, how many times do I have to tell you that people who support and like Ted Cruz are not cultists.  We are the smart people.

Both statements are false.

Please tell me how Moore won in Alabama without the Trump vote?

I think you people are cultists because to keep claiming Trump supporters are cultists when
nothing could be further from the truth. That makes me think you are projecting.

[roamer_1]

There numbers are growing expect a few more after the 2018 elections.

Well, Moore is one more... And with Tump playing games with the Gang-of-Eight boys, and with Democrats, One more obstructing principled Conservative bastard is nothing but net.
 

[Emjay]

Both statements are false.

Please tell me how Moore won in Alabama without the Trump vote?

I think you people are cultists because to keep claiming Trump supporters are cultists when
nothing could be further from the truth. That makes me think you are projecting.

Well, he certainly won without Trump support.

[Smokin Joe]

Give it a damn rest @roamer_1

Your finger-pointing, myopic worldview is quickly becoming the greatest problem we face.  I don't want to know what's so fascinating about your navel ... but I will suggest it's time for you to lift your gaze.

Do SOMEthing! Even if it's wrong?

It solves no problems to re-brand stupid or destructive policies and leave essentially the same anti-Constitutional and damaging programs in place, especially ones which never should have existed.
Just because the usual suspects in the GOP(e) continue to embrace increasingly liberal positions in an effort to cater to the whims of our Socialistic Mass Media does not mean those positions are good for Americans or America, and Americans are starting to push aside the curtain interposed by that same media and say "Enough!"
Expect more of this, not less, as Americans fight for their homes, their jobs, their industry, and their children, not just an invite to the 'in' cocktail parties on the Hill and the cumshaw from all the liberal and special interest lobbyists on K street.

[jpsb]

Well, he certainly won without Trump support.

Yes, but not without the support of the Trump voters. The Trump voters are real conservatives
that hate the GOPe. Even Trump himself could not get them to vote GOPe. I see it as Trump
voters keeping Trump from making a mistake. Maybe even a big mistake.

[jpsb]

Well, Moore is one more... And with Tump playing games with the Gang-of-Eight boys, and with Democrats, One more obstructing principled Conservative bastard is nothing but net.
 

 

[Jazzhead]

And then we have one more true Conservative in the Senate that will work to squash the quasi Liberal idiocy of Mitch McConnell and actually work to get us back to adhering to the Constitution like we should.

That's what.

Moore is no true Conservative - he's a religious troglodyte who's twice been removed from his position as a judge for defying the rulings of other courts.   

And Mitch McConnell is no Liberal - he's a pragmatic conservative with the ability to whip 90 percent of his caucus to support legislation that the President will sign, but without the remaining 10 percent has no accomplishments to show for it.   

It appears that Moore will join the disloyal 10 percent,  as one who demands perfection be the enemy of the good.   It is what it is, I guess, but too damn many conservatives will happier when they return yet again to backbencher status.  The stress and responsibility of governing is simply beyond this bunch. 

 President Trump may be on the verge of changing the dynamic, now that he's beginning to recognize that working with the GOP caucus alone is a fool's errand.   Will tax reform be different?  Will the GOP set aside its civil war for the good of the nation (and conservatism)?    I doubt it -  we're just instinctive backbenchers and always will be. 

I had such high hopes for this Congress.   But if it's time to move on,  I stand with the President.   
 

[aligncare]

Dammit, jpsb, all the certified Trump supporters are dissing the dude... why aren't you in line?

Plus, how many times do I have to tell you that people who support and like Ted Cruz are not cultists.  We are the smart people.

I’m certified and not dissing Moore. Which goes to show the futility of stereotyping or pigeonholing folks.

[Emjay]

Yes, but not without the support of the Trump voters. The Trump voters are real conservatives
that hate the GOPe. Even Trump himself could not get them to vote GOPe. I see it as Trump
voters keeping Trump from making a mistake. Maybe even a big mistake.

Interesting.  Trump supporters now having to prop up their leader.

Now, if they could just get him to stop tweeting.

[Emjay]

I’m certified and not dissing Moore. Which goes to show the futility of stereotyping or pigeonholing folks.

Good, but the first 3 posts I saw ... especially from RIV were bemoaning the Moore election.

And yeah, stereotyping is wrong but easy.

[Jazzhead]

Yes, but not without the support of the Trump voters. The Trump voters are real conservatives
that hate the GOPe. Even Trump himself could not get them to vote GOPe. I see it as Trump
voters keeping Trump from making a mistake. Maybe even a big mistake.

Don't fool yourself that Trump voters are conservative.  They're not - they're populists and nationalists.   They align with conservatives on some issues, but not on others.   I doubt many Trump supporters have any problem, for example, with taxing the rich.   

[Smokin Joe]

Moore is no true Conservative - he's a religious troglodyte who's twice been removed from his position as a judge for defying the rulings of other courts.   

And Mitch McConnell is no Liberal - he's a pragmatic conservative with the ability to whip 90 percent of his caucus to support legislation that the President will sign, but without the remaining 10 percent has no accomplishments to show for it.   

It appears that Moore will join the disloyal 10 percent,  as one who demands perfection be the enemy of the good.   It is what it is, I guess, but too damn many conservatives will happier when they return yet again to backbencher status.  The stress and responsibility of governing is simply beyond this bunch. 

 President Trump may be on the verge of changing the dynamic, now that he's beginning to recognize that working with the GOP caucus alone is a fool's errand.   Will tax reform be different?  Will the GOP set aside its civil war for the good of the nation (and conservatism)?    I doubt it -  we're just instinctive backbenchers and always will be. 

I had such high hopes for this Congress.   But if it's time to move on,  I stand with the President.

It appears Moore may join the growing minority of Republicans in Congress who have actually read the Constitution and take it to heart.  It is, hopefully, the next wave, as Americans frustrated with the standard issue GOP lies and the Liberal Socialist spiral into moral and economic depravity turn from the "moderates" and start the pendulum in the other direction toward Conservatism. The survival of the Republic depends on this; the swing to the Left has been going on for far too long.

[Jazzhead]

It appears Moore may join the growing minority of Republicans in Congress who have actually read the Constitution and take it to heart. 

You've got to be kidding.  The man disrespects both the rule of law and the Constitution's separation of church and state. 

As for the survival of the Republic,  do you really feel we have time for the Congress to be populated by a majority of religious troglodytes?   The battle must be joined now,  not in some far-flung fanciful future.   I'll take incremental progress (such as would have been the case under Graham-Cassidy) rather than no progress at all.   

[Emjay]

Moore is no true Conservative - he's a religious troglodyte who's twice been removed from his position as a judge for defying the rulings of other courts.   

And Mitch McConnell is no Liberal - he's a pragmatic conservative with the ability to whip 90 percent of his caucus to support legislation that the President will sign, but without the remaining 10 percent has no accomplishments to show for it.   

It appears that Moore will join the disloyal 10 percent,  as one who demands perfection be the enemy of the good.   It is what it is, I guess, but too damn many conservatives will happier when they return yet again to backbencher status.  The stress and responsibility of governing is simply beyond this bunch. 

 President Trump may be on the verge of changing the dynamic, now that he's beginning to recognize that working with the GOP caucus alone is a fool's errand.   Will tax reform be different?  Will the GOP set aside its civil war for the good of the nation (and conservatism)?    I doubt it -  we're just instinctive backbenchers and always will be. 

I had such high hopes for this Congress.   But if it's time to move on,  I stand with the President.

I gotta say, @Jazzhead  ... you are a breath of strange air.

[Jazzhead]

I gotta say, @Jazzhead  ... you are a breath of strange air.

Thanks, Emjay, I'll wear that one with pride! 

[Smokin Joe]

You've got to be kidding.  The man disrespects both the rule of law and the Constitution's separation of church and state.

Show me where in the constitution it says 'separation of church and state' or words to that effect, please.
You are butthurt over a comment the man made about homosexuality 12 years ago, simply because that doesn't coincide with your opinion.

And if there is such a separation of church and state why are those Democrat Reverends running around trying to push Liberalism all the time? Funny I never hear about this mythical wall between cultural morals and statute except when it advocates a Conservative position.

[DCPatriot]

Hopefully, more can understand why President Trump made a point at the Strange endorsement, that if he lost, that Judge Moore would get his aggressive support.

OTOH...I've heard registered Dems interviewed in Alabama that they were looking at it as an "Operation Chaos",  where the vote was cast for the winner with the thought he'd be easiest to beat in a General.   

Moore can be Pres. Trump's BFF....., or a rash high on the inside thigh.

[Smokin Joe]

Hopefully, more can understand why President Trump made a point at the Strange endorsement, that if he lost, that Judge Moore would get his aggressive support.

OTOH...I've heard registered Dems interviewed in Alabama that they were looking at it as an "Operation Chaos",  where the vote was cast for the winner with the thought he'd be easiest to beat in a General.   

Dems are funny critters. They are still making excuses for Hillary.

[jpsb]

Moore is no true Conservative

How would you know?

[Bigun]

Good, but the first 3 posts I saw ... especially from RIV were bemoaning the Moore election.

@Emjay

I'm sorry but I just can't figure out how you arrived at that.  Can you please explain?

[txradioguy]

Moore is no true Conservative - he's a religious troglodyte who's twice been removed from his position as a judge for defying the rulings of other courts.   

And Mitch McConnell is no Liberal - he's a pragmatic conservative with the ability to whip 90 percent of his caucus to support legislation that the President will sign, but without the remaining 10 percent has no accomplishments to show for it.   

It appears that Moore will join the disloyal 10 percent,  as one who demands perfection be the enemy of the good.   It is what it is, I guess, but too damn many conservatives will happier when they return yet again to backbencher status.  The stress and responsibility of governing is simply beyond this bunch. 

 President Trump may be on the verge of changing the dynamic, now that he's beginning to recognize that working with the GOP caucus alone is a fool's errand.   Will tax reform be different?  Will the GOP set aside its civil war for the good of the nation (and conservatism)?    I doubt it -  we're just instinctive backbenchers and always will be. 

I had such high hopes for this Congress.   But if it's time to move on,  I stand with the President.

You wouldn't know what a Conservative was if they came up and handed you a copy of the Constitution.

[skeeter]

You've got to be kidding.  The man disrespects both the rule of law and the Constitution's separation of church and state. 

There may be a "separation of church and state" as you describe it, but don't try to pin that on the Constitution. 'Cause nowhere does the Constitution say Christians should be barred from holding elected office.

In fact, find the term anywhere in the Constitution and you'll receive a cookie.

[DCPatriot]

Dems are funny critters. They are still making excuses for Hillary.

Rush pointed out the other day that (paraphrased),  "Guess what??  The polls predicting Moore's percentage of the vote was RIGHT ON!"

And he rhetorically asked "How come that is?  That for once, they had this election figured from the start?"

He concluded that it's because Alabama is a Red State and it was impossible for them to over sample Democrats.  There aren't any!"