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Trump Sides With Democrats on Interim Debt-Limit Fix, Harvey Aid
« on: September 06, 2017, 06:48:21 pm »
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President Donald Trump sided with Democrats on adding a three-month extension of the U.S. debt limit and government spending to a hurricane-relief bill over the arguments of fellow Republicans, who pressed for a longer debt extension, said several people with knowledge of the discussions....


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-06/trump-congress-agree-on-harvey-aid-and-short-term-debt-deal


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Re: Trump Sides With Democrats on Interim Debt-Limit Fix, Harvey Aid
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 06:56:29 pm »
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McConnell to support Trump-Democratic deal on debt ceiling, Harvey
Reuters, Sep 6, 2017

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Wednesday he supports fellow Republican President Donald Trump’s deal with Democratic congressional leaders to extend the U.S. debt ceiling and fund the government into December in legislation that would provide relief for victims of Hurricane Harvey.

“That’s what I will be offering, based on the president’s decision, to the (House of Representatives) bill. And we’ll try to get 60 votes and move forward,” McConnell told reporters.

McConnell said Hurricanes Harvey and Irma constituted a national emergency. “His feeling was that we needed to come together to not create a picture of divisiveness at a time of genuine national crisis,” he said of Trump.

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Re: Trump Sides With Democrats on Interim Debt-Limit Fix, Harvey Aid
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2017, 07:01:18 pm »
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Trump breaks with Republicans on debt ceiling deal
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President Trump backed the Democratic plan to combine Harvey relief funding with extending the debt limit and funding the government, both for three months, after a meeting with congressional leaders from both parties. The Republicans in the meeting opposed that plan.

A Republican close to leadership: "Dems bluffed their way into total victory. They win the politics of DACA and leverage on debt in the winter. The fate is sealed - DACA will be reauthorized without strings, Schumer has inserted himself into all negotiations in the winter, including tax, spending and immigration."

Latest: Mitch McConnell says he supports the plan, and will attach the continuing resolution and debt ceiling raise to the Harvey bill as an amendment.

From Trump

"We had a very good meeting with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer [Trump notably did not mention Ryan or McConnnell]. We agreed to a three-month extension on debt ceiling, which they consider to be sacred, very important, always we'll agree on debt ceiling automatically because of the importance of it. Also on the CRs and also on Harvey, which now we're going to be adding something because of what's going on in Florida, but we had a very good meeting. We essentially came to a deal, and I think the deal will be very good."

From Pelosi and Schumer

"In the meeting, the President and Congressional leadership agreed to pass aid for Harvey, an extension of the debt limit, and a continuing resolution both to December 15, all together. Both sides have every intention of avoiding default in December and look forward to working together on the many issues before us. As Democratic leaders, we also made it clear that we strongly believe the DREAM Act must come to the floor and pass as soon as possible and we will not rest until we get this done."

https://www.axios.com/trump-breaks-with-republicans-on-debt-ceiling-deal-2482227911.html

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Re: Trump Sides With Democrats on Interim Debt-Limit Fix, Harvey Aid
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2017, 07:03:35 pm »
Like I said elsewhere, isn't it cute how they (and honestly I'm not sure at this point if "they" is the media or the politicians or both) make it out like there is some disagreement somewhere along the line about raising the debt limit.

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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2017, 07:11:22 pm »
I hear they're coming out with a new edition of "The Art of the Deal", with an additional chapter titled, "The Virtues of Kicking the Can Down the Road".

After DACA and today's budget deal, that's all we got.
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Re: Trump Sides With Democrats on Interim Debt-Limit Fix, Harvey Aid
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 07:15:54 pm »
This is all about hurricane relief.  The President didn't want the Republicans to prolong passage in the Senate with their usual diddling and squabbling. 

Hopefully, Republicans learn how to work together and with the President.

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 07:20:17 pm »
Ryan thought the idea ludicrous............so of course, DT was all for it.

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2017, 07:21:21 pm »
This is all about hurricane relief.  The President didn't want the Republicans to prolong passage in the Senate with their usual diddling and squabbling. 

Hopefully, Republicans learn how to work together and with the President.

You crack me up... Just give the Democrats what they want and all will be well...

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Re: Trump Sides With Democrats on Interim Debt-Limit Fix, Harvey Aid
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2017, 07:23:18 pm »
If anyone here thinks this measure doesn't have everything to do with helping Houston and the surround area out of a jam...you are the Dumbest bunch of MF'ers this side of the Democratic Underground.  But go ahead and do what you NT'er do.....  It is expected.

I'll agree with that *after* we see some disagreement regarding a longer term debt ceiling increase from Republicans, but they've been telling us for a while now that they're expecting to increase it.

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Re: Trump Sides With Democrats on Interim Debt-Limit Fix, Harvey Aid
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2017, 07:23:20 pm »
If anyone here thinks this measure doesn't have everything to do with helping Houston and the surround area out of a jam...you are the Dumbest bunch of MF'ers this side of the Democratic Underground.  But go ahead and do what you NT'er do.....  It is expected.

Hear!  Hear!     :beer:

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2017, 07:23:31 pm »
If anyone here thinks this measure doesn't have everything to do with helping Houston and the surround area out of a jam...you are the Dumbest bunch of MF'ers this side of the Democratic Underground.  But go ahead and do what you NT'er do.....  It is expected.

Ya, Pelosi and Schumer to the rescue...

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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2017, 07:24:52 pm »
If anyone here thinks this measure doesn't have everything to do with helping Houston and the surround area out of a jam...you are the Dumbest bunch of MF'ers this side of the Democratic Underground.  But go ahead and do what you NT'er do.....  It is expected.

Sorry my friend, but they conveniently kicked the can down the road, under the guise of hurricane relief. Shoulda coulda been a clean bill for Harvey & Irma relief. Instead, they looked at the legislative calendar and threw up all over themselves.
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Re: Trump Sides With Democrats on Interim Debt-Limit Fix, Harvey Aid
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2017, 07:28:21 pm »
You crack me up... Just give the Democrats what they want and all will be well...

I don't give a damn if I crack you up @DB.

The President personally promised adequate and quick financial assistance for the victims of Harvey's flooding---and that means he's in no mood for a repeat performance of bickering and no results from the GOP Senatorial Caucus.


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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2017, 07:34:13 pm »
   I gotta admit working with democrats is better than his original plan.

How Trump Would Deal with the National Debt
by Michael Tanner May 11, 2016 4:00 AM


 
But don’t worry — Donald Trump has a solution for this growing tide of debt. He just won’t pay it. Last week Trump initially said, “I would borrow, knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal” to pay bondholders less than full value on the debt owed to them. This is, after all, the sort of thing Trump has done with creditors when, say, one of his casinos went bankrupt. It is also more or less what Greece has repeatedly negotiated with its bondholders over the last few years.

 Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435226/trump-and-national-debt

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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2017, 07:44:28 pm »
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I'm relatively confident Democrats couldn't have gotten a clean debt ceiling raise right now if Hillary Clinton were President.
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2017, 07:54:02 pm »
If anyone here thinks this measure doesn't have everything to do with helping Houston and the surround area out of a jam...you are the Dumbest bunch of MF'ers this side of the Democratic Underground.  But go ahead and do what you NT'er do.....  It is expected.

Yup.

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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2017, 08:11:25 pm »
   BS,  Ryan's House passed a clean Harvey Aid Bill and McConnell would have been able to do that too. Someone put pressure on them to accomplish much more with all the attachments.  Your Boy owns this and with the help of his friend Schumer he got it.


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The worst negotiators in history (otherwise known as Republicans) have just offered to suspend debt ceiling for four months. Pathetic!

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An aide briefed on Trump-Hill mtg says GOP leaders sought 18-month debt hike, then 6-mo. Dems rejected that, and Trump then agreed to 3-mo.

10:46 AM · Sep 6, 2017


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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2017, 08:59:52 pm »
Got to love old Mitch the B****. Trump proposes something, Mitch ignores it. Ryan passes a bill of major importance, it dies in Mitch's Senate.

Pelosi and Schumer want something, Mitch is right there asking if he jumped up quickly enough, and if the height of his jump was to their specifications. He probably hand delivered their proposal to the President.
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2017, 09:17:59 pm »
I don't give a damn if I crack you up @DB.

The President personally promised adequate and quick financial assistance for the victims of Harvey's flooding---and that means he's in no mood for a repeat performance of bickering and no results from the GOP Senatorial Caucus.

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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2017, 09:52:59 pm »
Hear!  Hear!     :beer:

But you posted too early, @Wingnut .....now the cowards won't show up.

Cowardly like showing up and posting nothing of value to the thread and doing hit and run taunting to merely stir the pot?

That kind of cowardly what you're talking about?

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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2017, 09:58:34 pm »
The easy and more financially sound plan would've been to cut budget money from places like the EPA Dept of Education and Welfare and apply that money to disaster relief... especially since there are one possibly two more hurricanes in the Caribbean heading this way.

Now Trump gets two more chances to help the Dems raise the debt ceiling.
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2017, 10:02:38 pm »
Right, no good crisis should go to waste... Milk it baby...

Well is does distract from the rest of the chaos in the West Wing.
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