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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #400 on: August 23, 2017, 09:31:19 pm »
Except that there is a definition of morality that maintains (conserves) civilization, in our case Judeo-Christian civilization, and therefore the nation as it was intended at founding.

And no other will do. The more that root is cut away, the further down the hole we go, and the faster the swirl becomes.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #401 on: August 23, 2017, 09:34:52 pm »
@INVAR
uh huh, yeah right.  And unicorns can crap icecream

And therein lies the absolute limit of your ability to argue or debate anything.

About the same level of your average Antifa protestor.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #402 on: August 23, 2017, 09:38:13 pm »
And therein lies the absolute limit of your ability to argue or debate anything.

About the same level of your average Antifa protestor.

Yes, but that was a most excellent picture of unicorn crap he posted.  There may be a problem with the content, but the form is great....  ^-^
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #403 on: August 23, 2017, 09:42:20 pm »
And therein lies the absolute limit of your ability to argue or debate anything.

About the same level of your average Antifa protestor.

@INVAR

You never debate anything.  You just say anyone who doesn't agree with you is evil.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #404 on: August 23, 2017, 09:45:32 pm »
Hmm. Brought up an interesting point. I'll take a stab.

Couple of points. This is all from memory, but didn't National Review declare themselves NeverTrump. So, as a group of conservatives and republicans who have taken that stance, how best to refer to them?

Donald Trump is one person who sought the voting public's support and got it.

I buy a magazine. I support a president.

Sorry, best I can do at the moment.
Really this is a little over the top, I don't see it as an insult when I say Trumper and probably you don't see it as an insult if you were to say NeverTrumper,  now if I were to use a term I have in the past in the heat of primaries like sTrumpettes, that would be and was intended to be imflamatory. I just don't see getting bent out of shape over what are basicly innocuous descriptive terms. We should save our outrage for what is actually serious.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #405 on: August 23, 2017, 09:46:43 pm »
You know in fact, I didn't even notice corbe used the slur 'Trumper'. That's how conditioned I have become to seeing it.

I believed corbe's post reasonable until you pointed that out. It's a little thing, I know. But, it means a lot. Careful choice of words show a certain level of respect. It's gotta start somewhere.
Well, now that you have established that "trumper" is offensive to you, then I would assume you would find it offensive with the prefix "never", as well. Like putting "Mother" in front of another word people find offensive, it doesn't seem to lessen the vitriolic nature of most comments.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #406 on: August 23, 2017, 09:58:12 pm »
That's a pantload, AC and you know it.  You wouldn't think twice about calling somebody a "Cruzer," the primary difference being the supporter of Cruz wouldn't take the slightest offense to it.  "Trumper" is the biggest flop of a pejorative I've ever seen.  I'd insist they do better if they want to insult me.
I used to say "Trump Supporter", but then I thought about those who support athletics, and I just couldn't continue to type with a straight face.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #407 on: August 23, 2017, 10:07:20 pm »
Trumper, Trumper, Trumper, Trumper .... Trump Supporter ... Trump Supporter ... Trump Supporter.  Trumpster, Trumpster, Trumpster...  Good grief.  What's the big deal?  Can we please get back on topic?
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #408 on: August 23, 2017, 10:09:50 pm »
Well, now that you have established that "trumper" is offensive to you, then I would assume you would find it offensive with the prefix "never", as well. Like putting "Mother" in front of another word people find offensive, it doesn't seem to lessen the vitriolic nature of most comments.

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Why do you always have to use a negative to refer to someone who doesnt condemn trump on whatever the current attack Trump talking point of the day?

Can't you show respect for a fellow American?
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #409 on: August 23, 2017, 10:11:06 pm »
I just don't see getting bent out of shape over what are basically innocuous descriptive terms. We should save our outrage for what is actually serious.

^^^^^This right here.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #410 on: August 23, 2017, 10:12:54 pm »
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Trumper, Trumper, Trumper, Trumper .... Trump Supporter ... Trump Supporter ... Trump Supporter.  Trumpster, Trumpster, Trumpster...  Good grief.  What's the big deal?  Can we please get back on topic?
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #411 on: August 23, 2017, 10:16:41 pm »
^^^^^This right here.

@Cyber Liberty

The constant use of negative pejoratives to refer to people who support Trump is childish.   You get called on it and do nothing but whine and cry. 

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #412 on: August 23, 2017, 10:19:31 pm »
Trumper, Trumper, Trumper, Trumper .... Trump Supporter ... Trump Supporter ... Trump Supporter.  Trumpster, Trumpster, Trumpster...  Good grief.  What's the big deal?  Can we please get back on topic?

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #413 on: August 23, 2017, 10:27:44 pm »
Really this is a little over the top, I don't see it as an insult when I say Trumper and probably you don't see it as an insult if you were to say NeverTrumper,  now if I were to use a term I have in the past in the heat of primaries like sTrumpettes, that would be and was intended to be imflamatory. I just don't see getting bent out of shape over what are basicly innocuous descriptive terms. We should save our outrage for what is actually serious.

I see the names Trumper and worse all over the net. I don't know those folks. Doesn't bother me.

I do know who here doesn't like Trump and they all know that I do. That's been well established. These are folks I've hung out with for years before Trump sucked the oxygen out of here.

So, the only things not established are the facts. In today's toxic political environment, with an unmistakable opposition media engaged in a silient coup, the facts are often in dispute in the face of unsubstantiated rumor, gossip, agitprop, propaganda, political jealousies and paybacks.

I'm happy to argue facts, but not constant school yard slurs from people who are not using Trumper like a good natured rib from a friend. They say it to demean.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #414 on: August 23, 2017, 10:28:17 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

The constant use of negative pejoratives to refer to people who support Trump is childish.   You get called on it and do nothing but whine and cry.
Dude, it's not like this is practiced by one group only

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #415 on: August 23, 2017, 10:32:33 pm »
Dude, it's not like this is practiced by one group only

@GtHawk

You're right.  The leftists and RNC rhinos also commonly use it.   As the more eloquent @aligncare stated it's used to demean by those groups as well.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #416 on: August 23, 2017, 10:32:41 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

The constant use of negative pejoratives to refer to people who support Trump is childish.   You get called on it and do nothing but whine and cry.

These folks are chomping at the bit to argue with Trump supporters yet can't or won't stick to the issues without letting you know as a Trump supporter you are benighted.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #417 on: August 23, 2017, 10:39:39 pm »
@GtHawk

You're right.  The leftists and RNC rhinos also commonly use it.   As the more eloquent @aligncare stated it's used to demean by those groups as well.
Wow I have had enough of the poor little me crap on this thread, it's amazing I thought we were supposed to be adults but that can't be, adults can't be as easily as offended as this on a Conservative forum..........can they? It's more like listening to a bunch of whiny millennial victims. Count me out, Adios, Auf Wiedersehen, Chow,
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #418 on: August 23, 2017, 10:40:11 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

The constant use of negative pejoratives to refer to people who support Trump is childish.   You get called on it and do nothing but whine and cry.

If you want to fixate on such a ridiculous thing, that's your business.  Who am I to argue?
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #419 on: August 23, 2017, 10:41:20 pm »
@GtHawk

You're right.  The leftists and RNC rhinos also commonly use it.   As the more eloquent @aligncare stated it's used to demean by those groups as well.

And that's a critical point; a flaw in NeverTrump, where they can't quite unshackle themselves from that commonality they share with leftist and democrats – visceral, intense (take your pick) dislike for Donald Trump.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #420 on: August 23, 2017, 10:41:41 pm »
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #421 on: August 23, 2017, 10:42:52 pm »
And that's a critical point; a flaw in NeverTrump, where they can't quite unshackle themselves from that commonality they share with leftist and democrats – visceral, intense (take your pick) dislike for Donald Trump.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #422 on: August 23, 2017, 10:51:56 pm »

And, on a tread regarding replacing the Republican Party, the subject of Donald Trump is completely on topic, NeverTrump is completely on topic. Donald Trump has redefined politics today and uncovered the greatest rift in the Republican Party since Goldwater.

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« Reply #423 on: August 23, 2017, 10:53:13 pm »
And that's a critical point; a flaw in NeverTrump, where they can't quite unshackle themselves from that commonality they share with leftist and democrats – visceral, intense (take your pick) dislike for Donald Trump.
 

  Your just baiting us azzhole NeverTrumpers with that dribble aren't you @aligncare
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« Reply #424 on: August 23, 2017, 10:54:34 pm »
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You're saying no one here we interact with everyday has a visceral dislike of Donald Trump? Astounding.