Paul Ryan Advised Republicans To Run From Trump Prior To Election Day, Says Gohmert

[Right_in_Virginia]

Are there any lingering doubts that the majority of the Republican Party caucus are Democrat/Leftist/Statists who have infiltrated it and taken the party for their own?

But please, continue voting for them - because you know.... the alternative is 'worse'.

I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have.  I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.

I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.

[TomSea]

We should have elected someone with real hands on experience, a governor like Scott Walker, not those do-nothing senators.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Gohmert is the best.  Great guy.

I think the 2018 elections will tell us something as will the Alabama election.

Most people want Obamacare gone.  The Republicans claim to, but refuse to act.  Maybe they're waiting for someone else to blame it on.

If we can elect 5 or 6 more real conservatives to the Senate who will follow Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, we could reclaim the party and the country.

I was very impressed with him this morning @Emjay   I'd like to hear more from him; he needs to be more visible.  I wonder if he has the support to replace Ryan as Speaker.

[Cyber Liberty]

I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have.  I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.

I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.

Let him.  You may have noticed there are other people than the two of you on this forum who are interested in the discussion....

[Emjay]

I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have.  I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.

I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.

I am sad and embarrassed that so many so-called conservatives have thrown in the towel and seem to be sitting in wait for the executioner.

The country may not have elected the most elegant and eloquent candidate but they elected a Republican who has espoused and continues to support conservative causes.

I am sad and embarrassed that this group so readily embraces the stances of the media and the leftists and cannot seem to think for themselves.

We are so close to conservatism.  We have elections coming up that will decide our course.

But, no.  All is lost.  Surrender is our only option.  Hope is just pie in the sky.

Well, not for me, baby.

[AllThatJazzZ]

I disagree with you on a lot of things...

Is this because you are getting me confused with Jazzhead? Just asking since it's happened to me a few times.

@Oceander

[INVAR]

I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have. 

Of which you people assert there is ONLY two, and my right to vote for whom I believe best serves my principles is something your fellows decided was treason.

Do keep voting for the lesser of evils.  One day soon, you will choose between a Lenin and a Stalin.

The end result is the same, but I am sure you will be as vociferous a defender of Lenin's Conservatism as you are Trump's.

I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.

By all means, keep practicing insanity and think that voting for corrupt and wicked men (because that is your only choice) is your salvation.

I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.

It's not for your benefit that I reply and opine.  I have no allusions of waking up a party slave to what they refuse to see.

[AllThatJazzZ]

I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have.  I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.

I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.

@INVAR, keep opining. Many others are reading.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@INVAR, keep opining. Many others are reading.

You do realize I didn't suggest @INVAR stop opining @AllThatJazzZ  .... just that he not waste time opining to me. Yes??

[Cyber Liberty]

You do realize I didn't suggest @INVAR stop opining @AllThatJazzZ  .... just that he not waste time opining to me. Yes??

To which I would reply, "You aren't the only person here, so it's silly to tell somebody not to post to you, they post to everybody.  Except in PMs."

[Right_in_Virginia]

It's not for your benefit that I reply and opine.  I have no allusions of waking up a party slave to what they refuse to see.

Look how you speak to and demean those who challenge or disagree with you.  Can you possibly still wonder why the voters have sent your ilk to the back bench?   

Your insults overwhelm your political point @INVAR .  Keep insulting those you need and even the mirror will turn its back on you. 

[AllThatJazzZ]

You do realize I didn't suggest @INVAR stop opining @AllThatJazzZ  .... just that he not waste time opining to me. Yes??

@Right_in_Virginia, the best way for you to enjoy silence from @INVAR or anyone else you find annoying is to employ the ignore feature. I have been able to use it to my advantage in a couple of cases, and it's helped me not to get bogged down with folks whose POVs are almost never clearly or civilly presented. It saves me time. Just a thought...

[Emjay]

Look how you speak to and demean those who challenge or disagree with you.  Can you possibly still wonder why the voters have sent your ilk to the back bench?   

Your insults overwhelm your political point @INVAR .  Keep insulting those you need and even the mirror will turn its back on you.

I had to block Invar because he make me want to have a drink and it's not even 10 AM here.

[Cyber Liberty]

I had to block Invar because he make me want to have a drink and it's not even 10 AM here.

Fat lotta good that does when everybody keeps quoting him!   

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia, the best way for you to enjoy silence from @INVAR or anyone else you find annoying is to employ the ignore feature. I have been able to use it to my advantage in a couple of cases, and it's helped me not to get bogged down with folks whose POVs are almost never clearly or civilly presented. It saves me time. Just a thought...

Thanks for the advice @AllThatJazzZ   I'm happy it works for you.

Me?  Except for one, I don't use the ignore feature.  I like to know what's going on.   ^-^

I think it's good form to let someone know further debate with me on any one subject is moot.  This allows the other poster to move on to greener pastures.   

[AllThatJazzZ]

..."You aren't the only person here..."

Wait, what?! She's not?!?!! You could have fooled me! 

------------------------------------------------------>I'm going to stand in the corner for a bit and await my handslap from a mod. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Thanks for the advice @AllThatJazzZ   I'm happy it works for you.

Me?  Except for one, I don't use the ignore feature.  I like to know what's going on.   ^-^

I think it's good form to let someone know further debate with me on any one subject is moot.  This allows the other poster to move on to greener pastures.   

I see your point, RiV....Sometimes people just enjoy having a decent sparring partner?

[Oceander]

Is this because you are getting me confused with Jazzhead? Just asking since it's happened to me a few times.

@Oceander

@AllThatJazzZ

Oops!!!

My bad.  You're right, I'm getting you confused.  Sorry about that. 

[Bigun]

However one feels about the Trump Wars, there's no denying Ryan did his level best to sabotage the Nominee of his own party.

What makes you think he's stopped?

[Cyber Liberty]

What makes you think he's stopped?

Never said he did. I hated him since they announced he was Bonehead's replacement.

[INVAR]

Look how you speak to and demean those who challenge or disagree with you.  Can you possibly still wonder why the voters have sent your ilk to the back bench?   

Your insults overwhelm your political point @INVAR .  Keep insulting those you need and even the mirror will turn its back on you.

You have truly elevated projection to an art form.

BTW my "ilk" are not on your bench at all anymore and frankly - I do not care who is insulted when the truth is stated.  This people want to hear lies and smooth and easy things.  They are not interested in the truth - and anyone dare speak it - why then, backbench and out the door they go... to thunderous applause from folks like yourself.

If you haven't figured it out yet, we're not interested in building coalitions with the wicked and then calling ourselves good.  That is something you do with great aplomb.

[Sanguine]

You can keep lying to yourself with that delusion, and refuse to acknowledge the fact that the rules were rewritten at the last two conventions to PROHIBIT any kind of grassroots Conservative from getting elected, not to mention the the oligarchy only rewards it's own Statists and punishes and ostracizes anyone who actually governs according to their oath.

There is no saving the Republican party.  There is no place for Conservatives within the Republican party.

Only moderate Democrats, liberals and thanks to Trump, nationalist populists.

Conservatives were told to get out and hit the road.  There will be no more Lees or Cruz or Pauls' to the GOP.  The party only endorses and backs liberals.

Invar, love ya, man, but I just can't figure out why you posted this.  We know Trump is not a conservative, we know the RINOs in charge don't like conservatives, we know Trump and friends played dirty to win, and we know that Trump won and Clinton lost.  Ok, got it.

What is it you are suggesting doing?  Just slinging mud, however well deserved, doesn't get us anywhere except caught in this endless loop of internecine nagging and argument.  I'm thinking the bad guys love seeing us do it, too.

[Bigun]

Never said he did. I hated him since they announced he was Bonehead's replacement.

Ok.  Just thought I'd ask.

[INVAR]

Invar, love ya, man, but I just can't figure out why you posted this.  We know Trump is not a conservative, we know the RINOs in charge don't like conservatives, we know Trump and friends played dirty to win, and we know that Trump won and Clinton lost.  Ok, got it.

What is it you are suggesting doing?  Just slinging mud, however well deserved, doesn't get us anywhere except caught in this endless loop of internecine nagging and argument.  I'm thinking the bad guys love seeing us do it, too.

I posted the truth.  The rules have been set to prohibit Conservatives from gaining any kind of leadership positions from within the Republican party, unless groomed and approved by the existing liberal Oligarchy that works in concert with Democrats.

As a principle, putting your faith in a wholly corrupted party in the hopes for a return to foundational principles is as stupid as prostrating before the Crown and parliament begging for relief from tyranny.

It's not gonna happen from within their party.  It's not gonna happen using corrupted institutions.

It's going to have to occur from outside the diseased cesspool in D.C.  It is going to have to occur in the character of this people first. 

Putting all faith and hope in voting for someone into high office as some kind of relief and salvation from tyranny is idolatry, and all it does is signal the fact the people want a monarchy- not a Republic.

[Bigun]

Invar, love ya, man, but I just can't figure out why you posted this.  We know Trump is not a conservative, we know the RINOs in charge don't like conservatives, we know Trump and friends played dirty to win, and we know that Trump won and Clinton lost.  Ok, got it.

What is it you are suggesting doing?  Just slinging mud, however well deserved, doesn't get us anywhere except caught in this endless loop of internecine nagging and argument.  I'm thinking the bad guys love seeing us do it, too.

@Sanguine

I agree with every word @INVAR said in the post you responded to.  It all happened as he said.  I also agree with you that further discussion of it serves no real purpose  going forward.