Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack

[Suppressed]

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen of the USA you are by definition a naturalized citizen.

Uh, no.

Your fantasies aren't reality.  Nor are they law.

[Sanguine]

You do realize you just described yourself self perfectly don't you?

No, she doesn't.  That's one thing that makes it so interesting. 

[jpsb]

You can blame public schools all you want, but equal dollops are due to parents that take no interest in educating their children outside of school. I'm not perfect, but my wife and I know we are our children's primary teachers.

 

[Sanguine]

Were you drunk when you posted this @corbe?   

What a stupid and gratuitously insulting thing to say!

[Oceander]

What a stupid and gratuitously insulting thing to say!

You pretty much nailed everything RiV posts.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No, she doesn't.  That's one thing that makes it so interesting.

I bet she'd be flattered that you can't find anything to talk about except her @Sanguine   

Maybe if you ask her nicely she'll throw out enough shiny objects to keep you busy all day long.   

[INVAR]

I ask my friends in the conservative wing of political thought to think long and hard, sans emotion, before seeking to corrupt the US Constitution to accommodate one politician. 

That's a funny sentiment coming from the Populist Wing of political thought when admonishing others to think sans emotion before seeking to corrupt foundational principles to accommodate one politician.

I guess it all depends on whether the political messiah is the only one who can 'save us' and whom is called a 'Deliverer from Slavery' and 'The only one who can give you freedom'.

I guess with that kind of power, corrupting principles and constitutions is okay.

[jpsb]

I bet she'd be flattered that you can't find anything to talk about except her @Sanguine   

Maybe if you ask her nicely she'll throw out enough shiny objects to keep you busy all day long.   

@Right_in_Virginia

I'm giving up too, these people are not rational. Now they can all HooRa, High Five and claim they sure showed those Trumpers a thing or two.  LOL.

[corbe]

@Right_in_Virginia

I'm giving up too, these people are not rational. Now they can all HooRa, High Five and claim they sure showed those Trumpers a thing or two.  LOL.

   @jpsb I do declare you Trumpers are getting better about deciding which hill to die on and as a Briefer stated earlier 'Don't go away MAD.........'

[INVAR]

I'm giving up too, these people are not rational. Now they can all HooRa, High Five and claim they sure showed those Trumpers a thing or two.  LOL.

We realized some time ago that the EverTrump are True Believers and their definition of 'rational' revolves attacking anyone and any organization that ever gave Trump a bad look or opposed him on anything.   Followed by exhaustive arguments supporting, excusing and Trumpsplaining their political savior's behavior, words and actions - no matter what they are or how juvenile and absurd.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

I'm giving up too, these people are not rational. Now they can all HooRa, High Five and claim they sure showed those Trumpers a thing or two.  LOL.

 

Except the NT's are so trapped in NeverNeverTrumpLand that they can't see NBC and the Constitution have nothing to do with Donald Trump.

But, I agree ... rationality is slim pickins in this discussion.

Enjoy your day @jpsb   

[aligncare]

Wrong I see you did not brother to read the preceding posts were I made it perfectly clear that Cruz is a naturalized citizen. Naturalized by a naturalization act passed by Congress in 1934. Without that naturalization act Cruz would not even be a citizen of the USA. 

The constitution gives Congress control over the naturalization process, a natural born citizen (NBC) is not a naturalized citizen. No law makes a NBC a citizen. If a law make you a citizen you are a naturalizes citizen not an NBC.  I don't know why so many are struggling with this concept, it is very simple.

And where is Cruz's Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA)? If Cruzs' parents wanted Cruz to be a US citizen they were required to file a CRBA. If they wanted Cruz to be Canadian citizen no action was necessary. Without a CRBA Cruz is technically an illegal alien. 

I miss the old days where EVERYONE knew that you had to be born in the USA (or a territory belonging to the USA) to be a natural born citizen.  I blame public schools for dumbing down Americans.

I swore to myself I would never post here again. But, I felt compelled to give my support for your line of reasoning on NBC, jpsb

In the early campaign I had only two reservations about Sen. Cruz. First was the NBC issue--sure to be used by the 'rats to taint his candidacy and result in a certain GOP defeat.

My second reservation was stylistic: ask Sen. Cruz for the time and he'd give you a soaring, 15 minute dissertation on time as it relates to the constitution!

But, this election was too important to get wrong. It was critical to win against Hillary. So, no matter how much I agreed with Sen. Cruz's conservative ideology his personality, I felt, could never win in the America of 2016 against the gimmidats.

Well, as it turned out, Trump was the right man for the job and NeverTrump's been wrong about him at every juncture -- right up to today, plainly clear here at NeverTrump Central.

Anyway, keep up the good work, jpsb -- you, too, RIV. You still rock the politics here!

[Oceander]

Look at what the kitty dragged in.  Would that you would keep your word. 

[Mom MD]

Sessions better reconsider given that trump is already floating guiliani as his replacement

[corbe]

    I, too, feel compelled to say that I didn't particularly miss you, having said that I do value your input here and your compatriots need some help as of late with the heavy lifting.  Welcome back @aligncare 

[aligncare]

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You got a three day posting timeout because you are under the delusion that you are in charge of the forum. We will restrict your speech if you can't stay on topic. You will not be allowed thread jack as you please to turn it into a Trump discussion.

You are also not going to tell the Mods what to do and not do as if you own the place. If you don't like that, you don't have to be here.

We'll start with 3 days. If it continues we can make it a week, month, year, or forever, however you want to roll. Get over your authoritarian delusions.

[aligncare]

MOD 3. Hmm. Wonder who MOD 3 was...

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You got a three day posting timeout because you are under the delusion that you are in charge of the forum. We will restrict your speech if you can't stay on topic. You will not be allowed thread jack as you please to turn it into a Trump discussion.

You are also not going to tell the Mods what to do and not do as if you own the place. If you don't like that, you don't have to be here.

We'll start with 3 days. If it continues we can make it a week, month, year, or forever, however you want to roll. Get over your authoritarian delusions.

No doubt it was very well deserved. 

[Suppressed]

Well, as it turned out, Trump was the right man for the job and NeverTrump's been wrong about him at every juncture -- right up to today, plainly clear here at NeverTrump Central.

Yes, I believed he would never become presidential and give up his childish tweeting.  But look at him now -- not a ill-advised tweet to be seen!

Yes, I believed he lacked deal-making skills, and only knew how to bully.  But look at him now, able to adroitly work with Congress to get both healthcare and immigration bills passed, without any ill feelings!

Yes, I believed he would have unstable staff relations and internal conflict.  But look at him now, with no turnover, confusion, or animosity -- just a well oiled team working together to make big things happen!

Yes, I believed he wouldn't become honest and keep his word.  But look at him now, never lying or going back on what he'd previously said.

Etc.

I guess you're right, and I was wrong.  (Except that I'm not a NeverTrumper...I am in his corner if/when he does something good and positive.)

[truth_seeker]

Complete Bull, prior to the 1930s Cruz would not even be a citizen of the US. Cruz is a naturalized citizen not a natural born citizen. Anyone that thinks the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a NBC of the USA has zero respect for our Constitution.

During my school years,, we were taught a President needed to be born in the USA; only exception being born on foreign embassy grounds.

The Senate made a special consideration, because McCain was born in a civilian hospital while his parents served there (Panama) in the military.

There is not a legal precedent for a person with Cruz' birthplace scenario ever being elected President.

There was an extensive legal research effort for George Romney, who ran but dropped out in 1968.

The study determined he WAS not eligible since he was born in Mexico to US citizen parents. It is NOT settled nor is there a precedent for Cruz' situation.

[Emjay]

You act say no all you want, Cruz is a naturalized citizen not a nature born citizen and here is the naturalization act that gives him his citizenship.

The Equal Nationality Act of 1934 was an American law which allowed foreign-born children of American mothers and alien fathers who had entered America before age 18 and lived in America for five years to apply for American citizenship for the first time.

OMG .... I feel like I'm back on TOS.   Why are we arguing this?  Let's wait and argue it (if you must) in 2020 (I hope) or at least 2024.

[Suppressed]

There was an extensive legal research effort for George Romney, who ran but dropped out in 1968.

The study determined he WAS not eligible since he was born in Mexico to US citizen parents. It is NOT settled nor is there a precedent for Cruz' situation.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/how-mitt-romneys-mexican-born-father-was-eligible-to-be-president/

[truth_seeker]

Some courts say birth in the US equals NBC.  Many do not.  If this is taken to the Supreme Court, I suspect the Founders' intent will be corrupted to allow anchor babies from all over the world a claim to the US Presidency.

@jpsb

One thing can be certain: If Cruz were ever nominated, his democrat opponents would scream about his foreign birth, make a huge deal of it, and it will impact his eventual defeat.

Cruz has the lack of broad appeal, like Sen. Goldwater. Some call him the "most conservative" in the Senate.

[Emjay]

What the heck happened.  I'll have to go back 4 pages to find out.  Someone mentioned Ted Cruz.

That's like Kryptonite to Trumpers.  It unleashes emotions sometimes held in check at least for brief periods.

Unbelievable.

Another word is Bush .... any Bush but especially GWB.  Unfortunately, they are able to garner some undeserved support regarding GBW ...

But the Bush word is nothing, nothing, nothing to the Cruz word.  OMG.

[txradioguy]

OMG .... I feel like I'm back on TOS.  Why are we arguing this?  Let's wait and argue it (if you must) in 2020 (I hope) or at least 2024.

Because birthers buy tinfoil by the square yard.