Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack

[txradioguy]

What constitution is that?

Here's the truth since you seemed to have missed it up thread:

The constitution gave the authority to congress to define citizenship. Congress has made adjustments to the citizenship laws over the years and sets the legal definition. Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth under US law at the time making him "natural born" because no other action was required to give him citizenship. Canadian law nor any other country's law matters in that determination. And I'll add, the courts have affirmed that.

But but but...TRUMP SAID!!!!

[txradioguy]

Were you drunk when you posted this @corbe?   

You of all people have no right to point that particular finger at anyone here.

[txradioguy]

Ah, no @txradioguy   I'm not the one willing to discard the Constitution for one politician.  You are.   

You're projecting more than the local 10 screen movie theater.

You should stop now before you beclown yourself any further.

Only the Blind Trump followers and Alt Right fanatics still believe the fantasy that Cruz isn't eligible.

Even your King said he was eligible.

[catfish1957]

You're projecting more than the local 10 screen movie theater.

You should stop now before you beclown yourself any further.

Only the Blind Trump followers and Alt Right fanatics still believe the fantasy that Cruz isn't eligible.

Even your King said he was eligible.

You know when Trump made the comment boasting that he would not lose support even if he shot someone?

RIV is the poster boy of that faction.

[Right_in_Virginia]

You of all people have no right to point that particular finger at anyone here.

Come on sweetie, you're letting your hate get the best of you.  Read the post from Corbe that I was replying to and mine will make more sense (hopefully) to you @txradioguy   


Enjoy your day 

[jpsb]

Concise and correct.

Complete Bull, prior to the 1930s Cruz would not even be a citizen of the US. Cruz is a naturalized citizen not a natural born citizen. Anyone that thinks the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a NBC of the USA has zero respect for our Constitution.

[jpsb]

There is no Cult of Ted Cruz. 

 

[jpsb]

What constitution is that?

Here's the truth since you seemed to have missed it up thread:

The constitution gave the authority to congress to define citizenship. Congress has made adjustments to the citizenship laws over the years and sets the legal definition. Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth under US law at the time making him "natural born" because no other action was required to give him citizenship. Canadian law nor any other country's law matters in that determination. And I'll add, the courts have affirmed that.

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen of the USA you are by definition a naturalized citizen. A natural born citizen does not required an act of Congress to make him/her a citizen.

[DB]

Complete Bull, prior to the 1930s Cruz would not even be a citizen of the US. Cruz is a naturalized citizen not a natural born citizen. Anyone that thinks the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a NBC of the USA has zero respect for our Constitution.

So what. Cruz wasn't born before the 1930s. Congress changed the laws of citizenship which they are given the authority to do under the constitution. Cruz was born a US citizen under US law at the time - period. It is you who are twisting the constitution locking in some definition of citizenship that congress has changed - changed under the direct authority of the constitution you claim isn't valid.

[jpsb]

So what. Cruz wasn't born before the 1930s. Congress changed the laws of citizenship which they are given the authority to do under the constitution. Cruz was born a US citizen under US law at the time - period. It is you who are twisting the constitution locking in some definition of citizenship that congress has changed - changed under the direct authority of the constitution you claim isn't valid.

One more time

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen of the USA you are by definition a naturalized citizen. A natural born citizen does not required an act of Congress to make him/her a citizen.


Naturalization (or naturalisation) is the legal act or process by which a non-citizen in a country may acquire citizenship or nationality of that country. It may be done by a statute, without any effort on the part of the individual, or it may involve an application and approval by legal authorities

[DB]

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen of the USA you are by definition a naturalized citizen. A natural born citizen does not required an act of Congress to make him/her a citizen.

Wrong.

The constitution gives the express authority to congress to define citizenship, how it is obtained and under what rules. The definition of citizenship isn't locked into when the constitution was written. Multiple courts have ruled on this and it isn't what you claim.

[DB]

One more time

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen of the USA you are by definition a naturalized citizen. A natural born citizen does not required an act of Congress to make him/her a citizen.

No.

[jpsb]

Wrong.

The constitution gives the express authority to congress to define citizenship, how it is obtained and under what rules. The definition of citizenship isn't locked into when the constitution was written. Multiple courts have ruled on this and it isn't what you claim.

Wrong, Congress has the authority to naturalize citizens. Congress has no authority do bestow natural born citizenship on anyone.  Nor does Congress have the authority to define natural born citizen.

[jpsb]

No.

You act say no all you want, Cruz is a naturalized citizen not a nature born citizen and here is the naturalization act that gives him his citizenship.

The Equal Nationality Act of 1934 was an American law which allowed foreign-born children of American mothers and alien fathers who had entered America before age 18 and lived in America for five years to apply for American citizenship for the first time.

[Right_in_Virginia]

So what. Cruz wasn't born before the 1930s. Congress changed the laws of citizenship which they are given the authority to do under the constitution. Cruz was born a US citizen under US law at the time - period. It is you who are twisting the constitution locking in some definition of citizenship that congress has changed - changed under the direct authority of the constitution you claim isn't valid. 

Cruz's citizenship is not the issue @DB   Cruz's status as a natural born citizen is the issue as it relates to meeting the Constitutional requirement to be POTUS.

Cruz was not born on US soil to two American citizens and as such is not natural born to the United States.   I am a NBC ... I was born in the US to two American citizens.  No one can revoke my citizenship--it is natural and inherent to who I am. 

Cruz does not have the same protection.

Cruz is a citizen at the will of Congress.  And what Congress has given, Congress can take away.  While he is a citizen, he is, by definition, a naturalized citizen.  A naturalized citizen, while fully a citizen, is not eligible to hold the office of the President of the United States. 

(While Cruz is referred to here as part of this discussion, the above applies to any soul born outside the United States with one parent being a US citizen at the time of birth)

[txradioguy]

You know when Trump made the comment boasting that he would not lose support even if he shot someone?

RIV is the poster boy of that faction.

I'm surprised she doesn't try to say that comment was taken out of context and he never meant that.

[txradioguy]

You act say no all you want, Cruz is a naturalized citizen not a nature born citizen and here is the naturalization act that gives him his citizenship.

The Equal Nationality Act of 1934 was an American law which allowed foreign-born children of American mothers and alien fathers who had entered America before age 18 and lived in America for five years to apply for American citizenship for the first time.

No he's not and all of your birther claims to the contrary won't change the harsh reality that Ted Cruz IS an American citizen.

[txradioguy]

No.

Funny how the birthers never seem to want to admit or fail to comprehend that were Cruz not truly eligible under the Constitution...the FEC would have stepped in a d said he wasn't eligible back during the primaries.

His situation is no different that McCain's back in 2008...except that it's now so called Conservatives bringing the issue on behalf of Hillary 's money man instead of the Clinton campaign bringing it up themselves.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No he's not and all of your birthed claims to the contrary won't change the harsh reality that Ted Cruz IS an American citizen.

That's not the issue @txradioguy No one is debating whether or not Cruz is a citizen of the United States.  The debate is whether or not he meets the Constitutional requirement to be POTUS of being a natural born citizen. Yes, Congress has made it possible for him to be a citizen.  But this is not natural born, this is naturalized citizenship.

[txradioguy]

That's not the issue @txradioguy No one is debating whether or not Cruz is a citizen of the United States.  The debate is whether or not he meets the Constitutional requirement to be POTUS of being a natural born citizen. Yes, Congress has made it possible for him to be a citizen.  But this is not natural born, this is naturalized citizenship.

You need to learn to actually read the Constitution and quit relying on Breitbart to tell you what to think.

Article II, section 1 of the Constitution provides:


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. (emphasis added)

Under U.S. law, the fact that Cruz was born to a U.S. citizen mother makes him a citizen from birth. In other words, he is a “natural born citizen” (as opposed to a naturalized citizen) and is constitutionally eligible.

If we used the perverted and totally misinterpreted version of Article II that you and the rest of the birthers believe...then most of the Founding Fathers...and a couple of other former Presidents wouldn't have been eligible for office because they weren't born in the United States.

Are you here to tell me that the Founding Fathers that went on to serve as President...who weren't born in this country were in violation of the very Constitution most of them fought for and helped work to bring to fruition?

[EC]

No he's not and all of your birther claims to the contrary won't change the harsh reality that Ted Cruz IS an American citizen.

Look at the year. 1934 - about the time Americans finally noticed that women had slightly more value than a matress.

His Mom's American - he's American. End of, unless you don't think women count for anything.

[txradioguy]

Look at the year. 1934 - about the time Americans finally noticed that women had slightly more value than a matress.

If Cruz were an "anchor baby" you'd never hear a peep from the Birthers about this IMHO.

His Mom's American - he's American. End of, unless you don't think women count for anything.

Well...look at who they are defending 

[jpsb]

You need to learn to actually read the Constitution and quit relying on Breitbart to tell you what to think.

Article II, section 1 of the Constitution provides:


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. (emphasis added)

Under U.S. law, the fact that Cruz was born to a U.S. citizen mother makes him a citizen from birth. In other words, he is a “natural born citizen” (as opposed to a naturalized citizen) and is constitutionally eligible.

If we used the perverted and totally misinterpreted version of Article II that you and the rest of the birthers believe...then most of the Founding Fathers...and a couple of other former Presidents wouldn't have been eligible for office because they weren't born in the United States.

Are you here to tell me that the Founding Fathers that went on to serve as President...who weren't born in this country were in violation of the very Constitution most of them fought for and helped work to bring to fruition?

One more time

If an act of Congress makes you a citizen you are a naturalized citizen not a natural born citizen. I was born here to two citizen parents no law passed by congress makes me a citizen, I just am a citizen, a natural born citizen.

Saying anyone born anywhere with one parent holding a US passport is a Natural Born Citizen of the USA is ridiculous.  Our Constitution (under original intent) limits the office of President to people born in the USA to a citizen father.

Trashing the constitution just because you like Cruz is not a good idea.

[txradioguy]

One more time

If an act of Congress makes you a citizen you are a naturalized citizen not a natural born citizen. I was born here to two citizen parents no law passed by congress makes me a citizen, I just am a citizen, a natural born citizen.

Once again since you birthers seem to have a hearing and reading comprehension problem...Article II of the U.S. Constitution says he's legit.  Whatever Act of Congress you keep babbling about just reinforces what was clearly stated in the Constitution in the 18th Century.

Saying anyone born anywhere with one parent holding a US passport is a Natural Born Citizen of the USA is ridiculous.  Our Constitution (under original intent) limits the office of President to people born in the USA to a citizen father.

See this is where you are completely clueless.  I have friends...hell I've had soldiers under my leadership...who had one parent that was German...or one Parent that was Korean...or Panamanian born in an overseas hospital...not on a military base...and guess what...they are considered a Natural Born Citizen of the United States...they don't have to check naturalized on any paperwork...show a permanent residence Visa...none of that...they hold American passports and check the box "yes" where it says
"Are you an American Born Citizen".

Now unless you have some secret insight into how immigration works and who is and isn't a citizen that others don't...you're just...as usual...blowing orange smoke.

Otherwise...please share your insider knowledge.  Cause I've seen it from the military side and seen how the Government treats and considers American's born with one parent as a U.S. Citizen...and you're full of excrement.

Trashing the constitution just because you like Cruz is not a good idea.

Purposely ignoring what's IN the constitution because of your blind fealty to Trump isn't the wisest move for you.

[jpsb]

Look at the year. 1934 - about the time Americans finally noticed that women had slightly more value than a matress.

His Mom's American - he's American. End of, unless you don't think women count for anything.

The topic is not the value of a human female the topic is whether Cruz is eligible to hold the office of President of the USA. And he isn't.

Also there is a strong case to be made that when Cruz was born his mom was a Canada citizen.

The out line of the story go something like this.

She married and English man and moved to the UK and acquired UK citizenship. Then she moved to Canada and as a UK citizen she was fast tracked to become a Canadian citizen (one year wait). She was on the voters rolls in Canada and one must hold Canadian citizenship to get on the voter rolls. At the time dual citizenship was not allowed in Canada so she would have to have renouced all prior citizenships to become a Canadian.