Trump to pull feds out of K-12 education

[Bigun]

Trump to pull feds out of K-12 education

By S.A. Miller - The Washington Times
Wednesday, April 26, 2017

President Trump signed an executive order Wednesday to start pulling the federal government out of K-12 education, following through on a campaign promise to return school control to state and local officials.
The order, dubbed the “Education Federalism Executive Order,” will launch a 300-day review of Obama-era regulations and guidance for school districts and directs Education Secretary Betsy DeVos to modify or repeal measures she deems an overreach by the federal government.

“For too long the government has imposed its will on state and local governments. The result has been education that spends more and achieves far, far, far less,” Mr. Trump said. “My administration has been working to reverse this federal power grab and give power back to families, cities [and] states — give power back to localities.”...

More at link http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/26/donald-trump-pull-feds-out-k-12-education/

[Bigun]

If he actually manages to get this done it will go down as his greatest accomplishment IMHO!

[Joe Wooten]

If he actually manages to get this done it will go down as his greatest accomplishment IMHO!

Agreed! Expect the educrats, AFCSME, and the dhimmicrap party to fight this tooth and nail.

[driftdiver]

Cmon NTs find something bad about this one!!!

[driftdiver]

Agreed! Expect the educrats, AFCSME, and the dhimmicrap party to fight this tooth and nail.

This is a huge part of the swamp.  Housing prices in DC just dropped.

[Cripplecreek]

He's not going to be able to or actually even try.

Just another attempt to distract.

[driftdiver]

He's not going to be able to or actually even try.

Just another attempt to distract.

I knew it!    Pretty good distraction tho

[Suppressed]

If he actually manages to get this done it will go down as his greatest accomplishment IMHO!

Agreed.  This would be a major win!

[Suppressed]

He's not going to be able to or actually even try.

Just another attempt to distract.

Yes, it is.  But it's good to put it up on the radar screen to remind people of its importance.

[driftdiver]

Yes, it is.  But it's good to put it up on the radar screen to remind people of its importance.

Even if its a distraction its nice to see someone taking the fight to the leftists instead of always on the defense.   If it happens it would be the greatest boon for conservatism in 30 years.

[Suppressed]

Even if its a distraction its nice to see someone taking the fight to the leftists instead of always on the defense.   If it happens it would be the greatest boon for conservatism in 30 years.

Exactly.  If he actually follows through on this, it would be very helpful.  His past track record is spotty, so I hope the Trump supporters will join in holding his feet to the fire and not just making excuses if we don't see this pushed vigorously after the 300-day review.  Can we expect that commitment?

[INVAR]

...a 300-day review of Obama-era regulations and guidance for school districts and directs Education Secretary Betsy DeVos to modify or repeal measures she deems an overreach by the federal government.

So the headline is misleading. 

It's an EO to order a year-long review of Obama's directives in education and hands DeVos power to 'modify' or 'repeal' those directives.

It does NOT "pull the Feds out of K-12 education".

You've all been hoodwinked again.

Sounds good.  Makes a few moves in the right direction.  But it DOES NOT gut the NEA, rollback Federal programs or oversights from administrations before Obama nor yank the Feds out of K-12 education in the country.

[Suppressed]

So the headline is misleading. 

It's an EO to order a year-long review of Obama's directives in education and hands DeVos power to 'modify' or 'repeal' those directives.

It does NOT "pull the Feds out of K-12 education".

You've all been hoodwinked again.

Sounds good.  Makes a few moves in the right direction.  But it DOES NOT gut the NEA, rollback Federal programs or oversights from administrations before Obama nor yank the Feds out of K-12 education in the country.

No, because the Trump supporters are going to prove the nevertrumpers wrong by marching on DC en masse if the Department of Education isn't abolished.  I'll be disappointed if they don't.

So I hope they pardon me for withholding ecstatic support.  It could be yet another of Trump's "announcements without teeth". 

[Bigun]

No, because the Trump supporters are going to prove the nevertrumpers wrong by marching on DC en masse if the Department of Education isn't abolished.  I'll be disappointed if they don't.

So I hope they pardon me for withholding ecstatic support.  It could be yet another of Trump's "announcements without teeth".

To me, this is just Trump doing what he can on his own authority and announcing his INTENT to the feckless Congress!

[INVAR]

To me, this is just Trump doing what he can on his own authority and announcing his INTENT to the feckless Congress!

I'm beginning to think the Republicans have now also succumbed to the Liberal position that we should never judge fruits and outcomes, but only their good intentions.

If so, how Democrat of them!

[RoosGirl]

It's too bad Trump hasn't made some allies of the conservative members of Congress that could help him pass his conservative agenda, but I guess that ship sailed when he threatened to primary them?

[Suppressed]

To me, this is just Trump doing what he can on his own authority and announcing his INTENT to the feckless Congress!

Let's hope it is, though he hasn't seemed to feel the need to delay other things for a year before acting.

If you're not right, then you should have no problem going after him with a vengeance if he doesn't follow through, right?

[Bigun]

Ahhhhhhh.... so the Republicans have now also succumbed to the Liberal position that we should never judge fruits and outcomes, but only their good intentions?

If so, how Democrat of them!

DO NOT attempt to put words in my mouth that I never said!  Trump has announced his intent! Let's see what the "republican" congress does with it!

[INVAR]

DO NOT attempt to put words in my mouth that I never said!  Trump has announced his intent! Let's see what the "republican" congress does with it!

You mistook my sentiments.  I was not putting words in your mouth.

This is not the only forum I haunt, and if there is a meme or zeitgeist I'm reading over this 'announcement' it is that Trump's INTENTIONS are all that matter, because they believe the Democrats and the Establishment will not allow him to 'drain the swamp'.

Thus my comment about intentions becoming the measure of fruits.

Again, the Order calls for a 300 day REVIEW, and any rollbacks of Obama-era 'overreaches' are left up to the Education Secretary to modify them, or repeal them.

[Bigun]

You mistook my sentiments.  I was not putting words in your mouth.

This is not the only forum I haunt, and if there is a meme or zeitgeist I'm reading over this 'announcement' it is that Trump's INTENTIONS are all that matter, because they believe the Democrats and the Establishment will not allow him to 'drain the swamp'.

Thus my comment about intentions becoming the measure of fruits.

Again, the Order calls for a 300 day REVIEW, and any rollbacks of Obama-era 'overreaches' are left up to the Education Secretary to modify them, or repeal them.

@INVAR

But unless I am sorely mistaken your response here was directed at MY post.

[driftdiver]

Ahhhhhhh.... so the Republicans have now also succumbed to the Liberal position that we should never judge fruits and outcomes, but only their good intentions?

If so, how Democrat of them!

Good actions begin with good intentions.

Good thing Jesus doesn't have the standards of perfection that so many here do.

[INVAR]

@INVAR

But unless I am sorely mistaken your response here was directed at MY post.

I think that your post and capitalization of the word INTENTION simply triggered the response based on the gamut of stuff I'm reading all over the place.  I'm sorry if the response seemed like you were advocating that position.  I've modified the comment.

I will note it's becoming an epidemic of response that Trump's INTENTION of draining the swamp is evidence Trump has kept his word he would do so.

In this case it is a 300 day review, not a pullout of federal intervention and oversight of K-12 education in America as the headline suggests.

[INVAR]

Good actions begin with good intentions.

Good thing Jesus doesn't have the standards of perfection that so many here do.

So Jesus did not have standards of perfection eh?

"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect". Matthew 5:48

Sums up the fact He has a standard of perfection He is expecting we strive for, despite your declaration that He doesn't.

[GrouchoTex]

From the article:

"Ms. DeVos already has authority to modify or repeal regulations that are deemed a violation of federal law. The order, however, creates a review for identifying those areas and makes clear her mandate from the president to take action."

So the authority to do so has already existed, and this says the president wants her to act on the existing authority, which she already has.

Wha.....?

It is an EO saying "You have my permission to do your job", which is good, but did it need an EO?

Oh well, it's not a bad thing, it just seems like it wasted some time, and was already in place.

The only thing that could be new is the 300 day time frame. I guess before it was left at the Departments discretion?

I dunno.

Lots of noise being made about something that was already there.

[Bigun]

I think that your post and capitalization of the word INTENTION simply triggered the response based on the gamut of stuff I'm reading all over the place.  I'm sorry if the response seemed like you were advocating that position.  I've modified the comment.

I will note it's becoming an epidemic of response that Trump's INTENTION of draining the swamp is evidence Trump has kept his word he would do so.

In this case it is a 300 day review, not a pullout of federal intervention and oversight of K-12 education in America as the headline suggests.

@INVAR

I'll give you the headline is misleading but would LOVE to know what else you think Trump can do on his on regarding this. Do you think he has the power to dissolve the Federal department of education all by himself?