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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2017, 08:36:05 pm »
That's not true...go look at my posting history...I do townhall all the time, NRO[which screws with my browser] Gateway Pundit...etc etc etc...and RUSH!

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2017, 08:47:43 pm »
That's not true...go look at my posting history...I do townhall all the time, NRO[which screws with my browser] Gateway Pundit...etc etc etc...and RUSH!

That is because you're not posting essays and Op-Ed pieces intended to shove a finger into the eye sockets of Conservatives who will not bend the knee to Trump and shower him with hosannas.  That is sacrilege.

It's a stick in their craw that anyone on this board would have issues with anything Trump says, does, tweets or who sits in for him at G-20 summits while doling out taxpayer funds to support his daughter's foundation initiative.  Those kinds of discussions need to be derailed with cheerleading the greatness of Trump that we enemies of the state fail to acquiesce to.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2017, 08:54:25 pm »
That is because you're not posting essays and Op-Ed pieces intended to shove a finger into the eye sockets of Conservatives who will not bend the knee to Trump and shower him with hosannas.  That is sacrilege.

It's a stick in their craw that anyone on this board would have issues with anything Trump says, does, tweets or who sits in for him at G-20 summits while doling out taxpayer funds to support his daughter's foundation initiative.  Those kinds of discussions need to be derailed with cheerleading the greatness of Trump that we enemies of the state fail to acquiesce to.

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2017, 08:58:47 pm »
   I've noticed another thing about your postings @mystery-ak you do have a tendency to put Editorial/Opinions pieces in the appropriate section as I try to do also and you rarely, if ever, post incendiary stuff, as I and @truth_seeker are guilty of.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2017, 09:12:27 pm »
The problem is, any criticism of the man puts you in the NT or Globalist category.  It's the reason I split from TOS where they're regularly begging for money and regularly offline.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2017, 09:16:59 pm »
Whatever Trump's done in the past, at this point - with Haley at the U.N. Mattis as Sec Def, Sessions as AG, Pruitt at EPA, DeVoss at Fed Ed - I'm having trouble desperately clinging to his Not being my first choice.

He was a this that and the other.


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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2017, 09:24:01 pm »
   I've noticed another thing about your postings @mystery-ak you do have a tendency to put Editorial/Opinions pieces in the appropriate section as I try to do also and you rarely, if ever, post incendiary stuff, as I and @truth_seeker are guilty of.

So positive material about the Republican President, on a site named "GOP" with a Reagan picture on the masthead, is "Incendiary?"
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2017, 09:37:06 pm »
So positive material about the Republican President, on a site named "GOP" with a Reagan picture on the masthead, is "Incendiary?"

   No @truth_seeker I didn't say that and that was not the intention of my 'quite factual' post. These are clearly opinion pieces allowed, by the way, to stay in Politics and in spite of the way Trumpers feel about them, they are quite incendiary to some of us as has been noted by some members, that you would readily classify as nevertrumpers (whatever that is).
   It's all good, this place is middle of the road I can post my stuff that would appear to you and your buddies as nevertrump stuff and you can post yours....see how simple that is?

   As far as you bringing up that ol Reagan in the Masthead BS again, it's crap in my book and used way to often here by some members as an attack on this Board.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #58 on: July 10, 2017, 09:54:50 pm »
So positive material about the Republican President, on a site named "GOP" with a Reagan picture on the masthead, is "Incendiary?"

Of course not, but I'm sure you're not so obtuse not to know, since you posted two different articles with similarly worded titles, that articles about foolish Never Trumpers can be incendiary.

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #59 on: July 10, 2017, 09:59:30 pm »
Of course not, but I'm sure you're not so obtuse not to know, since you posted two different articles with similarly worded titles, that articles about foolish Never Trumpers can be incendiary.

I posted several articles, not just two. They came from Townhall, a reliable conservative source. I didn't write them.

If that is obtuse, so be it.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2017, 11:45:14 pm »
The Foolishness of Never Trumpers

Never Trump Critics Look Foolish Today

Two articles with almost the same title saying almost the same thing posted by the same person...If I didn't know better I would say that this poster is trying to incite a fight on the forum...but that's just me... *****rollingeyes*****
That was my opinion as well, and why I have not bothered to comment on this bit of cheerleading.

Where's the wall?

Obamacare is still in effect.

Hillary is still at large.

Etc.
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Y'all don't hurt your arms patting your selves on the back. He has done some good.

But there are 3 1/2 more years in this term yet, and a lot of unresolved issues.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #62 on: July 11, 2017, 12:03:17 am »
That was my opinion as well, and why I have not bothered to comment on this bit of cheerleading.

Where's the wall?

Obamacare is still in effect.

Hillary is still at large.

Etc.
Etc.
Etc.

Y'all don't hurt your arms patting your selves on the back. He has done some good.

But there are 3 1/2 more years in this term yet, and a lot of unresolved issues.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #63 on: July 11, 2017, 12:10:53 am »
Don't come in here with that notion that it's "any" criticism.   That's bullshit and a game with words.   

I'll tell you what's "bullshit": the notion that any of us who dare criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever are undeserving of reasoned arguments to the contrary, as opposed to false accusations and ad hominem attacks.

That's not only bullshit, it is cultist behavior.

I happen to like quite a number of things that Trump has done, but do not dare tell me to refrain from criticizing him when I think he deserves it.

It is a common and very human mistake to view as "enemies" those whose only transgression is to recognize the flaws in your heroes.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #64 on: July 11, 2017, 12:22:02 am »
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You might have thought that once the election was over that the Never Trumpers would have wised up and at least have abided by the old rule, “If you cannot say something nice, then don’t say anything at all.”

Is this person crazy?  He actually believes Americans should refrain from criticizing a president?

Maybe he'd be happier living in a monarchy.

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #65 on: July 11, 2017, 12:22:10 am »
I'll tell you what's "bullshit": the notion that any of us who dare criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever are undeserving of reasoned arguments to the contrary, as opposed to false accusations and ad hominem attacks.

That's not only bullshit, it is cultist behavior.

I happen to like quite a number of things that Trump has done, but do not dare tell me to refrain from criticizing him when I think he deserves it.

It is a common and very human mistake to view as "enemies" those whose only transgression is to recognize the flaws in your heroes.

Well said!   :da man:

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #66 on: July 11, 2017, 12:24:12 am »
I simply reviewed and posted recent material, from a leading conservative source (Townhall). (Not Politico, NYT etc. as has often been the case here, to support a #nevertrump agenda)

@truth_seeker

Is there a list of approved sources we should post from?  Conservative Treehouse, Gateway Pundit, maybe a couple of others....because I want to promote the correct agenda.

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #67 on: July 11, 2017, 12:27:30 am »
The notion that any criticism of a person automatically makes you an opponent of that person is the type of thought process that characterizes liberal Progressives, not conservatives.

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Even if it did, that would be fine.  It's perfectly okay not to like Trump, even though it's often portrayed as a character failing/spiritual problem or whatever.

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #68 on: July 11, 2017, 12:35:11 am »
When I first started TBR I did almost all the posting...finally after many years members have taken up that charge which I very much appreciate. I still go through all my bookmarks everyday to find articles that will be of interest,,not counting breaking political news....I am not asking for any kudos but By God to accuse me of not posting the right articles sticks in my craw.

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #69 on: July 11, 2017, 12:49:11 am »
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You deserve kudos Myst.  I thank you every day for the on-line life preserver after the rude (anti-conservative) purge at TOS.

This place is far superior to TOS, and you have done a lot to make it a pleasurable site.

Thank you that means a lot to me.
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #70 on: July 11, 2017, 12:50:57 am »
When I first started TBR I did almost all the posting...finally after many years members have taken up that charge which I very much appreciate. I still go through all my bookmarks everyday to find articles that will be of interest,,not counting breaking political news....I am not asking for any kudos but By God to accuse me of not posting the right articles sticks in my craw.

There are many articles I'd love to post but the poor old gerbil running my poor old iPad has just about had it. She can't/copy paste at all. I've asked for two things for my birthday this summer: My kids' baptism portraits formally matted and framed and a new iPad. If the latter occurs, watch out TBR!
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #71 on: July 11, 2017, 01:06:59 am »
There are many articles I'd love to post but the poor old gerbil running my poor old iPad has just about had it. She can't/copy paste at all. I've asked for two things for my birthday this summer: My kids' baptism portraits formally matted and framed and a new iPad. If the latter occurs, watch out TBR!

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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #72 on: July 11, 2017, 01:14:19 am »
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« Reply #73 on: July 11, 2017, 01:16:59 am »
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Re: The Foolishness of Never Trumpers
« Reply #74 on: July 11, 2017, 01:23:32 am »
I'll tell you what's "bullshit": the notion that any of us who dare criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever are undeserving of reasoned arguments to the contrary, as opposed to false accusations and ad hominem attacks.

That's not only bullshit, it is cultist behavior.

I happen to like quite a number of things that Trump has done, but do not dare tell me to refrain from criticizing him when I think he deserves it.

It is a common and very human mistake to view as "enemies" those whose only transgression is to recognize the flaws in your heroes.

Get off your high horse, Andy.  Nobody is telling you to refrain from criticizing anybody.

My point was clear.  Stop deflecting.

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