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Trump or some other candidate, I don't think it would make much difference.   The facts are the left has been turning crazier and crazier since the sixties.
Hillary probably could have coasted to the presidency is she had deigned to mix with the rabble in a number of states. But she was above that.
She thought she could echo Crazy Bernie's socialist rants instead of adopting a moderate tone like her hubby would have done.  But because Dems have been turning more and more socialist and intolerant, Hillary thought she had to go that route.
Trump, for all his faults, isn't the cause of the violence.  The left has been growing steadily more violent and deranged.  On college campi across the country the left has been denying free speech and assembly rights to  conservative speakers  many of whom are not fond of Trump.
I don't like Trump's talk about  getting violent with protesters.  But he is not the problem...the violent and crazy left is the problem in the country. They have to be stopped.

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1967


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4S1b5azraQ


I was one of the soldiers there but we weren't MPs and weren't involved in what's in that newsreel.

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Mindless bullshit. Show me where Trumpists are shooting at politicians. Show me where Trumpists are calling for the death of Lefitst figures on a daily basis. Show me where the Trumpists are putting on a play where Chuck Schumer is assassinated. You can't because Trump voters are stable people despite what dime store psychological assessments you pedal.

So, only politicians are important in your book?

Trumpist Dionisio Garza III wounded more people (6), and even killed one, but he counts as "stable" in your book because he just ranted about politicians but targeted ordinary people, huh? 

Just wow.   **nononono*

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I was one of the soldiers there but we weren't MPs and weren't involved in what's in that newsreel.
A friend of mine served in the Army, during demonstrations/riots in Washington DC.

I was in Germany during the 1970 Kent State deaths.  Later that year I returned to the states for discharge.

A friend of mine states that he was spit on coming through an airport in uniform. (Didn't happen to me)

Times were different, and when people seem to be fearful that things of that nature might be on the horizon, I am less worried than they are, apparently. Been there, done that.
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A friend of mine served in the Army, during demonstrations/riots in Washington DC.


I was at A.P. Hill or Belvoir for the second half of 1967 and all of 1968. For that time, we were constantly on some level of riot alert for D.C. That call never came but we were sent to the Pentagon for that event.

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I'm not saying Mika needs to be mugged on the streets of DC again, but...
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Sorry, but dragging that seriously diminished echo chamber (TOS) into this discussion is apples and kumquats. 

Most of those at TOS calling for violence are not what I'd consider top shelf kind of folks either.

I believe you meant to type "apples and orangutans'... since you are, afterall, writing about TOS.

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I believe you meant to type "apples and orangutans'... since you are, afterall, writing about TOS.

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Ya got me there!    :bigsilly:
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But the shooter apparently ignored third base and the shortstop...they should have been easier targets. From midway along the third base line, third base, shortstop, pitcher and catcher should have all been closer.

Those closer than Scalise left early and saw the shooter in the parking lot.

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Those closer than Scalise left early and saw the shooter in the parking lot.
Then that would make Scalise the closest target on the field. Thanks. What is the source for that info, if you have it handy?
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One of the nutbag blogs is suggesting Scalise was the deliberate target - because he was working on stamping out human trafficking.  :shrug:
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One of the nutbag blogs is suggesting Scalise was the deliberate target - because he was working on stamping out human trafficking.  :shrug:
I don't pretend to know, I'm just asking questions.

If Scalise was the the closest on the field, maybe it was dumb luck on the part of the shooter, and bad luck on Scalise's part. Maybe.

Scalise had an important role to play, and to get the House pubbies on board with the plan du jour was part of his job. There are things about the man which would single him out to be a higher profile target and that is just one.

Considering the opposition has been 'community organizing' since the '60s, and the most recent administration's strongest defense is that their conspiracies and scandals read like overly contrived spy novel plots, the question remains of whether this was a 'hit' hidden in the nutcase meme. That question will remain, as far as I am concerned, until proven otherwise.

What better way to get your enemy to let their guard down than to convince them that they are not all under attack, that it was just some lone nutter. In the meantime the 'pundits' of the Left are calling for more blood...
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There really isn't anything the left won't blame conservatives for.  Even evil deeds done by their own people.
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He wasn't targeting anyone, in my opinion. You got a field of guys that you want to shoot. You gotta be quick. Just shoot. Look for anyone coming close to your position.


I doubt this guy was picking and choosing his targets. He was just shooting. And, in my perception, he was not trained to attempt what he did.


He was just a loose nutcase. And we should be glad for that. A trained shooter would have much more damage than this wacko Leftist idiot did.
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He wasn't targeting anyone, in my opinion. You got a field of guys that you want to shoot. You gotta be quick. Just shoot. Look for anyone coming close to your position.


I doubt this guy was picking and choosing his targets. He was just shooting. And, in my perception, he was not trained to attempt what he did.


He was just a loose nutcase. And we should be glad for that. A trained shooter would have much more damage than this wacko Leftist idiot did.

That is my accesment as well FWIW!
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He wasn't targeting anyone, in my opinion. You got a field of guys that you want to shoot. You gotta be quick. Just shoot. Look for anyone coming close to your position.


I doubt this guy was picking and choosing his targets. He was just shooting. And, in my perception, he was not trained to attempt what he did.


He was just a loose nutcase. And we should be glad for that. A trained shooter would have much more damage than this wacko Leftist idiot did.

That's probably right.  Scalise was hit, but so was a lobbyist for Tyson Foods.   Scalise may have been the unlucky one, but the others are lucky that Scalise was there.  If he wasn't, neither would have been the Capital Police, and the result would have been an epic bloodbath.   
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What the hell is this person smoking?  Trump has no responsibility whatsoever, moral, legal, or ethical, for the shooting.  The only people other than the shooter himself who are morally complicit are liberals and the democrats. 

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What the hell is this person smoking?  Trump has no responsibility whatsoever, moral, legal, or ethical, for the shooting.  The only people other than the shooter himself who are morally complicit are liberals and the democrats.

The pair of rutting hamsters she uses as a brain got overexcited again.  *****rollingeyes*****
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What the hell is this person smoking?  Trump has no responsibility whatsoever, moral, legal, or ethical, for the shooting.  The only people other than the shooter himself who are morally complicit are liberals and the democrats.
If they don't blame Trump, they can't tap into that festering Democrat anger against Bernie losing (he wuz robbed) and Hillary losing (she wasn't, but they push it anyway) and white people and rich people and the Republicans and ...and...and....

Anger is all the Left has. For the Most part it is all they have ever had...since Russia in 1917 it has been the same shtick.
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