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Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #150 on: May 29, 2017, 10:07:21 pm »
Not according to them.

It's what this always boils down to: if we do not support Trump all-the-way-at-all-times and whatever it is he says and does, we are Libs/Hillary supporters/Democrats/DU Trolls/Leftists/Coup supporters/MSM Media operatives etc., etc., etc.

We are either with them in lockstep, or we are the enemy.

Just as I said their mindset was earlier.  They just keep demonstrating it. 

Liberty only exists if you agree with, speak and vote the way they demand it.

Otherwise we are Libs and the enemy.
What you correctly describe is the logical fallacy of "Either-Or" -  a false choice between diametrically opposed beliefs.  It is compounded in this event by an equally classic straw man argument, ascribing undesirable beliefs and risible motives to the person whose opinion is never truly challenged. It is a common refuge of those who refuse to consider the merits of others arguments and seek refuge in deflection, which is not infrequently accompanied by ad hominem insults.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #151 on: May 29, 2017, 10:13:23 pm »
What you correctly describe is the logical fallacy of "Either-Or" -  a false choice between diametrically opposed beliefs.  It is compounded in this event by an equally classic straw man argument, ascribing undesirable beliefs and risible motives to the person whose opinion is never truly challenged. It is a common refuge of those who refuse to consider the merits of others arguments and seek refuge in deflection, which is not infrequently accompanied by ad hominem insults.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #152 on: May 29, 2017, 10:38:50 pm »
THIS!!


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« Reply #153 on: May 29, 2017, 10:43:05 pm »
THIS!!



Then there's one thing you men will be able to say when this war is over and you get back home. Thirty years from now when you're sitting by your fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks, 'What did you do in the great World War Two?' You won't have to cough and say, 'Well, your granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana.' No sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say 'Son, your granddaddy rode with the great Third Army and a son-of-a-goddamned-bitch named George Patton!'


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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #154 on: May 29, 2017, 10:47:49 pm »
I don't buy that. 

Most of the visceral Trump arguments here are reactionary as a result of someone like jpsb making a stupid statement about the members here who are not ga-ga with Trump.

The rest of them are usually the results of Conservatives doing a 'see-I-told-you-so' stance in regards to the news, usually associated with Trump's inability to control his thumbs on Twitter, though that silly fight over Trump's wife not holding his little hand was pretty stupid.

Now it's pro-Trump arguments over anger regarding the discussing of 'fake news' or news from sources other than Breitbart.


Total bullsh*t.

Anybody can log in as early as noon and you will find a total of six or seven active threads in POLITICS, OPINIONS, SCANDALS, NEWS.....and if the thread has 6 posts, they're ALL anti-Trump, one-line screeds, demeaning the POTUS, calling him all sorts of derogatory names. 

And then, have the gall to get insulted when we suggest they as a group, "HATE" President Trump.

If that ain't 'hate', WTF is?
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #155 on: May 29, 2017, 10:50:48 pm »
Total bullsh*t.

Anybody can log in as early as noon and you will find a total of six or seven active threads in POLITICS, OPINIONS, SCANDALS, NEWS.....and if the thread has 6 posts, they're ALL anti-Trump, one-line screeds, demeaning the POTUS, calling him all sorts of derogatory names. 

And then, have the gall to get insulted when we suggest they as a group, "HATE" President Trump.

If that ain't 'hate', WTF is?


Go look in a mirror, listen to yourself, and you'll discover exactly what "hate" is like.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #156 on: May 29, 2017, 10:53:58 pm »
Total bullsh*t.

Anybody can log in as early as noon and you will find a total of six or seven active threads in POLITICS, OPINIONS, SCANDALS, NEWS.....and if the thread has 6 posts, they're ALL anti-Trump, one-line screeds, demeaning the POTUS, calling him all sorts of derogatory names. 

And then, have the gall to get insulted when we suggest they as a group, "HATE" President Trump.

If that ain't 'hate', WTF is?

Well, given that @mystery-ak is one of our most prolific news aggregators on this board, I assume you assert she is a 'Trump hater' for merely posting the news you have decided are one-line anti-Trump, demeaning screeds?

Thanks for making my point in spades there pal!
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #157 on: May 29, 2017, 10:57:31 pm »
Go look in a mirror, listen to yourself, and you'll discover exactly what "hate" is like.

Yesterday, when I said you were running around the forum, acting like a little girl, you were quick to focus on that and call it an ad hominem attack.

Today, you called @jpsb a troll and a liar.   You refer to President Trump as the "Orange [fill-in-the-blank]

Pot...kettle....black.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #158 on: May 29, 2017, 10:58:14 pm »
Well, given that @mystery-ak is one of our most prolific news aggregators on this board, I assume you assert she is a 'Trump hater' for merely posting the news you have decided are one-line anti-Trump, demeaning screeds?

Thanks for making my point in spades there pal!

Don't put words in my mouth you worthless POS.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #159 on: May 29, 2017, 10:58:27 pm »
Go look in a mirror, listen to yourself, and you'll discover exactly what "hate" is like.

He proclaimed boldfaced that he hates us, and is proud to admit it.
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« Reply #160 on: May 29, 2017, 10:58:38 pm »
Yesterday, when I said you were running around the forum, acting like a little girl, you were quick to focus on that and call it an ad hominem attack.

Today, you called @jpsb a troll and a liar.   You refer to President Trump as the "Orange [fill-in-the-blank]

Pot...kettle....black.

Nope.  I call it like it is.  You hate.

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« Reply #161 on: May 29, 2017, 10:59:56 pm »
Nope.  I call it like it is.  You hate.

We hate each other, slick.     ^-^
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« Reply #162 on: May 29, 2017, 11:01:26 pm »
We hate each other, slick.     ^-^

Whatever.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #163 on: May 29, 2017, 11:02:04 pm »
So - still boring then.
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« Reply #164 on: May 29, 2017, 11:03:36 pm »
Whatever.

You worked hard for it.  Embrace it.    :laugh:
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« Reply #165 on: May 29, 2017, 11:03:36 pm »

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« Reply #166 on: May 29, 2017, 11:04:09 pm »
So - still boring then.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #167 on: May 29, 2017, 11:04:29 pm »
Don't put words in my mouth you worthless POS.

Even though I may be a worthless POS, demeaning POTUS is as American as Apple Pie there bub, and we have every right and privilege to do so, whether you like it or not.

Demeaning members here on this board as POS' however, is not exactly within the desired rules of conduct for this private enterprise and your hate is a bit more personalized than simply our indifference or disapproval of the president.
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« Reply #168 on: May 29, 2017, 11:04:52 pm »
You worked hard for it.  Embrace it.    :laugh:

Your hate isn't worth that much; all it takes is a less than fawning attitude toward your Orange God, Trump.

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« Reply #170 on: May 29, 2017, 11:05:43 pm »


Excuse me for being out earlier today for my grandson's ballgame.

I come back and start reading new posts.....I'm several pages behind.

So don't give me that drama queen crap, please?

Thank y ou.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #171 on: May 29, 2017, 11:07:37 pm »
Then there's one thing you men will be able to say when this war is over and you get back home. Thirty years from now when you're sitting by your fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks, 'What did you do in the great World War Two?' You won't have to cough and say, 'Well, your granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana.' No sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say 'Son, your granddaddy rode with the great Third Army and a son-of-a-goddamned-bitch named George Patton!'


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Let the first bastards to find out be the goddamned Germans. Someday, I want them to rise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl 'Ach! It's the goddamned Third Army and that son-of-a-bitch Patton again!'


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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #173 on: May 29, 2017, 11:09:08 pm »


Why are you piling on?  This exchange didn't involve you.  @CatherineofAragon

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« Reply #174 on: May 29, 2017, 11:09:08 pm »
Even though I may be a worthless POS, demeaning POTUS is as American as Apple Pie there bub, and we have every right and privilege to do so, whether you like it or not.

Demeaning members here on this board as POS' however, is not exactly within the desired rules of conduct for this private enterprise and your hate is a bit more personalized than simply our indifference or disapproval of the president.

No it isn't.

I'm sure if Donald Trump never ran for President, you'd still be over at TOS.

I'm sure that if you and I had been there since 1998, we'd have agreed more than disagreed.

Sinkspur was one of my favorite people here.  Ask @mystery-ak   Ask freaking anyone.

And he was your unofficial NT Leader here.

Let's just speak the truth here.   You still have a bug up your a## because Trump has made you look like you don't know WTF you're talking about.

All you have left if foot stomping and complaining.

Instead, you should be giving thanks he's our POTUS>
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