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URL: http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/11/gallup-americans-views-moral-issues-now-liberal-record-extent/



CLICK THIS LINK FOR THE RESULTS OF GALLUP’s SURVEY:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/210542/americans-hold-record-liberal-views-moral-issues.aspx


It’s easy to get depressed that we’ve all but lost the battle for fiscal conservatism, but look on the bright side. The battle for social conservatism is … no, looks like that one’s pretty much a rout too.

One of the Internet’s recent misfortunes is the explosion of overheated liberal takes about the resemblance of modern American culture to “The Handmaid’s Tale,” the series on Hulu about a Christian theocratic takeover of the country in which women are enslaved by the patriarchy. Behold the state of the looming theocracy, via Gallup:





Of the 19 issues tested, not a single one has moved towards the traditional social conservative position since Gallup first began asking about them in 2001. Thirteen of the 19 have seen opinions grow more liberal/libertarian over time — among them biggies like premarital sex, single moms having kids, doctor-assisted suicide, and gay and lesbian relations — and six have seen no significant change.

For some reason they haven’t yet added legalizing marijuana to their list of cultural hot buttons. If you want to toss that one in there, it’s another win for the liberal-tarian position. And there’s every reason to believe that some numbers will continue to shift. With pornography and social isolation ubiquitous in the Internet age and younger Americans who oppose the death penalty and medical testing on animals replacing older adults who are more supportive of those practices, it can’t be very long until porn passes capital punishment and animal testing in acceptability. Within 15 years, the only sex/marriage issues that may lack majority moral approval are adultery and polygamy.

The silver lining for social cons is abortion, which has barely budged since Gallup first began testing it 16 years ago. It stood at 42 percent acceptable back then and stands at 43 percent acceptable today. A life-and-death issue this politically supercharged may simply be not all that susceptible to movement over time. Pro-lifers should take heart that, unlike with so many other issues, the needle isn’t moving left on this as senior citizens die and millennials take their place in the adult population. The kids are alright on life — so far.

Exit question: Abortion is significantly more morally acceptable than “cloning animals”? Um, what?

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What's so bad about cloning animals?

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Isn't Gallops polling so bad anymore they refuse to do Presidential elections?

Results are based on telephone interviews conducted May 3-7, 2017 with a random sample of –1,011—adults, aged 18+, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on this sample of national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95% confidence level.
For results based on the sample of –518—national adults in Form A, the margin of sampling error is ±5 percentage points.
For results based on the sample of –493—national adults in Form B, the margins of sampling error is ±5 percentage points.
For results based on the sample of –531-- adults employed full- or part-time, the margin of sampling error is ±5 percentage points.
Interviews are conducted with respondents on landline telephones and cellular phones, with interviews conducted in Spanish for respondents who are primarily Spanish-speaking. Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 70% cell phone respondents and 30% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cell phone telephone numbers are selected using random digit dial methods. Gallup obtained sample for this study from Survey Sampling International. Landline respondents are chosen at random within each household on the basis of which member has the next birthday.
Samples are weighted to correct for unequal selection probability, non-response, and double coverage of landline and cell users in the two sampling frames. They are also weighted to match the national demographics of gender, age, race, Hispanic ethnicity, education, region, population density, and phone status (cell phone-only/landline only/both and cell phone mostly). Demographic weighting targets are based on the March 2016 Current Population Survey figures for the aged 18 and older U.S. population. Phone status targets are based on the January-June 2016 National Health Interview Survey. Population density targets are based on the 2010 census. All reported margins of sampling error include the computed design effects for weighting.
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For the most part, I see nothing disturbing about this poll.   Folks are accepting of behavior that is consensual and victimizes no one.  Activities that victimize others, such as extramarital affairs remain, as they should be, immoral in most folks' eyes.   

Birth control and gay relationships harm absolutely no one, and bother only those obsessed with religious dogma. 

The most disturbing finding is the widespread moral acceptance of divorce.   But many of the more judgmental Christians here have been divorced.   Religion, as always, is primarily a philosophy of convenience.   Gay marriage?  Straight to Hell!   Divorce?  No big deal - just rinse, repent and forget.   
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For the most part, I see nothing disturbing about this poll.   Folks are accepting of behavior that is consensual and victimizes no one.  Activities that victimize others, such as extramarital affairs remain, as they should be, immoral in most folks' eyes.   

Birth control and gay relationships harm absolutely no one, and bother only those obsessed with religious dogma. 

The most disturbing finding is the widespread moral acceptance of divorce.   But many of the more judgmental Christians here have been divorced.   Religion, as always, is primarily a philosophy of convenience.   Gay marriage?  Straight to Hell!   Divorce?  No big deal - just rinse, repent and forget.   

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The most disturbing finding is the widespread moral acceptance of divorce. 

That alone should be a red flag that this poll is a bucket of shit. If divorce is so accepted, why is it at a 40 year low?

http://time.com/4575495/divorce-rate-nearly-40-year-low/

Abortion numbers are also way down. We also have the "moral" party the strongest it has been since the 1920's. Nothing in this poll adds up to the realities on the ground.


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For the most part, I see nothing disturbing about this poll.   Folks are accepting of behavior that is consensual and victimizes no one.  Activities that victimize others, such as extramarital affairs remain, as they should be, immoral in most folks' eyes.   

Birth control and gay relationships harm absolutely no one, and bother only those obsessed with religious dogma. 

The most disturbing finding is the widespread moral acceptance of divorce.   But many of the more judgmental Christians here have been divorced.   Religion, as always, is primarily a philosophy of convenience.   Gay marriage?  Straight to Hell!   Divorce?  No big deal - just rinse, repent and forget.   

@Jazzhead
Why are you so hateful towards people who are religious especially Christians?   Muslims kill gays but you don't say a thing about them.

No you are just hateful towards Christians.  So intolerant of people with different views then your own.
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That alone should be a red flag that this poll is a bucket of shit. If divorce is so accepted, why is it at a 40 year low?

http://time.com/4575495/divorce-rate-nearly-40-year-low/

Abortion numbers are also way down. We also have the "moral" party the strongest it has been since the 1920's. Nothing in this poll adds up to the realities on the ground.

Its a telephone poll.  Its garbage to start with.   The people that will stay on the phone and answer a poll is hardly a good sample of a population.
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Why are you so hateful towards people who are religious especially Christians?   

It is hilarious considering he is the biggest fan of St John, the holiest Holy Rolling politician....


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Out of wedlock children are predicted to have bad life outcomes, which is a well documented fact.

Regardless of race, btw.
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For the most part, I see nothing disturbing about this poll. 

Not a surprise.

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@Jazzhead
Why are you so hateful towards people who are religious especially Christians?   Muslims kill gays but you don't say a thing about them.

No you are just hateful towards Christians.  So intolerant of people with different views then your own.

Hateful?  No way.  I'm a live and let live guy,  but the usual suspects on this board despise my neighbors and see no moral issue with the sick and the poor dying with no access to health insurance.   I speak out against Christians who've forgotten Christ's teachings of humility, compassion and empathy for the less fortunate.

   
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It is hilarious considering he is the biggest fan of St John, the holiest Holy Rolling politician....

Gov. Kasich practices what his faith teaches.   That's the kind of Christian I admire.   
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Hateful?  No way.  I'm a live and let live guy,  but the usual suspects on this board despise my neighbors and see no moral issue with the sick and the poor dying with no access to health insurance.   I speak out against Christians who've forgotten Christ's teachings of humility, compassion and empathy for the less fortunate.

 

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Except thats not what you did.  You condemned all Christians for being Christians.

Don't be a hater.
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Hateful?  No way.  I'm a live and let live guy,  but the usual suspects on this board despise my neighbors and see no moral issue with the sick and the poor dying with no access to health insurance.   I speak out against Christians who've forgotten Christ's teachings of humility, compassion and empathy for the less fortunate.

 
What are your feelings about muslims, who mutilate females, rape and murder non-muslims, and practice violent jihad all over the world?

By my moral standards, those acts FAR, FAR exceed anything a Christian might do by peacefully expressing their beliefs?

That you seem to be obsessed with faultfinding with Christians, yet silent about violent islam is revealing. Lack of balance, perspective, priorities.
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Americans are becoming too stupid to recognize the correlation between the rejection of Biblical Morality and foundational principles with the increase in Socialism, corruption, broken families, thievery, perversion, dependency, addiction and crime.


So more bigger, more intrusive government and limits on personal liberty to deal with all the consequences that are just now beginning to bear real fruit on our culture and society.
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@Jazzhead
Except thats not what you did.  You condemned all Christians for being Christians.

Don't be a hater.

That's a lie.  Here's the post to which you responded with your charge of "hate"

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For the most part, I see nothing disturbing about this poll.   Folks are accepting of behavior that is consensual and victimizes no one.  Activities that victimize others, such as extramarital affairs remain, as they should be, immoral in most folks' eyes.   

Birth control and gay relationships harm absolutely no one, and bother only those obsessed with religious dogma. 

The most disturbing finding is the widespread moral acceptance of divorce.   But many of the more judgmental Christians here have been divorced.   Religion, as always, is primarily a philosophy of convenience.   Gay marriage?  Straight to Hell!   Divorce?  No big deal - just rinse, repent and forget.   

I didn't "condemn all Christians",  I called out "many of the more judgmental Christians here" for condemning my gay neighbors to hell while ignoring the Bible's teaching that their own marriage is a lifetime commitment.   That's hypocrisy, sir.   But the problem is obviously far more than just Christians -  divorce is seen by most as par for the course, and a lifetime commitment to a partner is seen by too many as a quaint relic.   

There is nothing harder - and more rewarding - than making a marriage work over the long term.  Many of those I know who HAVE made it work are indeed Christians.     
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What are your feelings about muslims, who mutilate females, rape and murder non-muslims, and practice violent jihad all over the world?

By my moral standards, those acts FAR, FAR exceed anything a Christian might do by peacefully expressing their beliefs?

That you seem to be obsessed with faultfinding with Christians, yet silent about violent islam is revealing. Lack of balance, perspective, priorities.

As far as I can tell, I've never been confronted by a Muslim on this board claiming I'm wicked and evil because I support my neighbors' right to marry.    When I am, I promise I'll lay into him with both barrels.   Okay?   
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Or maybe Americans have become conditioned to respond to such questions "correctly".

The progressives will not be able to change the essential nature of 5000 years of human civilization  no matter how hard they try.

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That's a lie.  Here's the post to which you responded with your charge of "hate"

I didn't "condemn all Christians",  I called out "many of the more judgmental Christians here" for condemning my gay neighbors to hell while ignoring the Bible's teaching that their own marriage is a lifetime commitment.   That's hypocrisy, sir.   But the problem is obviously far more than just Christians -  divorce is seen by most as par for the course, and a lifetime commitment to a partner is seen by too many as a quaint relic.   

There is nothing harder - and more rewarding - than making a marriage work over the long term.  Many of those I know who HAVE made it work are indeed Christians.   
Look, you can call it "judgemental" if that makes you feel better, but it doesn't change what is written, not one jot or tittle.

For us to point out that these behaviours which allegedly "hurt no one else" are destructive not only to the individuals performing those acts, but to society as a whole, is not being "judgemental", it is actually caring, not only about the individual, but society as a whole.

The whole insane fallacy about "not hurting anyone else' has been proven to be just that, and is so patently ridiculous, I will not even waste time discussing it (again).

And making a marriage work in a world saturated with sin is certainly more difficult than doing so in a virtuous and honorable world, so why promote sin?
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Look, you can call it "judgemental" if that makes you feel better, but it doesn't change what is written, not one jot or tittle.

For us to point out that these behaviours which allegedly "hurt no one else" are destructive not only to the individuals performing those acts, but to society as a whole, is not being "judgemental", it is actually caring, not only about the individual, but society as a whole.

The whole insane fallacy about "not hurting anyone else' has been proven to be just that, and is so patently ridiculous, I will not even waste time discussing it (again).

And making a marriage work in a world saturated with sin is certainly more difficult than doing so in a virtuous and honorable world, so why promote sin?

Look at the poll -  Only 37% believe gay relationships are morally wrong,  but fully 91% believe that extramarital affairs are morally wrong.   I'd say Americans have their priorities mostly in order. 

   
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Look at the poll -  Only 37% believe gay relationships are morally wrong,  but fully 91% believe that extramarital affairs are morally wrong.   I'd say Americans have their priorities mostly in order. 

 
Funny thing about right and wrong, they aren't up for a vote.

If you are in a room with 99 other people and they vote to take your stuff, strip you naked and kick you out in the snow, does that make it "right"?

Evil does not become less evil because more people are doing it or support it, it just becomes more commonplace.
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The whole insane fallacy about "not hurting anyone else' has been proven to be just that, and is so patently ridiculous, I will not even waste time discussing it (again).
....so why promote sin?

You know the answer to that.  You know what you are dealing with.
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You know the answer to that.  You know what you are dealing with.
Ayup. But some nonsense just can't be left unchallenged. It'd be like leaving hand grenades laying about in a schoolyard. Sooner or later someone will mess with it.
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Look at the poll -  Only 37% believe gay relationships are morally wrong,  but fully 91% believe that extramarital affairs are morally wrong.   I'd say Americans have their priorities mostly in order. 

 

I wonder what a poll of Romans would say about Jesus?
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