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SOURCE: AMERICAN THINKER

URL: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/05/trump_very_happy_with_bill_outlawing_future_border_wall.html

by Ed Straker


While it's commonly known by now that the new spending bill that Congress and the Trump administration agreed to funds mostly Democratic priorities, and doesn't fund President Trump's border wall, what's not widely known is that the new legislation goes even farther than this. Not only does it not fund the border wall, but it prevents the government from constructing a border wall with any funds.

This is important because the government is already authorized, under a 2006 law, to build the wall. It was just a question of funding. Before this bill, the President could conceivable reallocate border security funding from things like "technology" to the border wall because the wall was authorized. Now, when the president signs this bill, he will no longer have the option to build the wall by reallocating funds. Even if Donald Trump somehow got the Mexicans to pay for it, this legislation would still prohibit him from building the wall. Trump has incredibly agreed to give up the authorization already on the books to allow him to build a wall.

And what is Trump's reaction to this? The president says he's "very happy" with the pending legislation and plans to sign it.

This legislation funded all the Democrats' priorities--Obamacare, Planned Parenthood, and a big bailout to Puerto Rico. Furthermore, the president, who wanted to cut the EPA by a third, has to settle for a tiny 1% cut. He got less than half of what he wanted for the military, and all of the environmental regulations he wanted to cut were rejected by Democrats. Democrats were incredulous that they, out of power in all branches of the government, got everything they wanted and Trump got nearly nothing. They are now emboldened to demand even more when the next spending bill comes up in September. Just look at this WaPo headline:

Democrats confident they can block Trump’s agenda after spending-bill win.

President Trump could have threatened a veto unless he got at least some of what he wanted. He didn't.
So it raises the question: is he simply a terrible negotiator, or does he have no real interest in building a border wall?

I get the feeling he'd like to build a border wall if it would be easy. But he is afraid to take on the Democrats to get it done. If Ronald Reagan were president he would have shut down the government before signing such a bill. He would have gone over the heads of congress to the American people and given speech after speech staking out his positions.

That's how Reagan got a Democratic congress to pass sweeping tax cuts. But Trump can't even get a Republican congress to spend $1.4 billion on a border wall. Trump simply isn't willing to fight. His idea of fighting is to post an angry note on Twitter. That's not how one fights to win in the court of public opinion.

So now we will soon have legislation on the books, with Trump's signature, which will prevent the government from building a border wall. If Hillary Clinton were president, she would have done exactly the same.

Exit Questions:

1) How do Trump supporters feel when they hear the president say he is "very happy" with a bill which outlaws border wall construction? Do you still think this is all part of a master plan to improve border security? If constructing a wall takes time and needs to be funded in advance, at what point shall we begin judging Trump on his words and actions?

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So, what happened to that "draining the swamp" bit?  Looks more like business as usual to me.  DC corruption at its stinkiest, in fact.

« Last Edit: May 02, 2017, 03:24:03 pm by XenaLee »
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‘Trump got ROLLED. The Republicans got ROLLED’ – Krauthammer slams ’embarrassing’ budget

    May. 1, 2017 10:26 pm by SooperMexican


El Krauthammero hammers on Trump and the Republicans for the “total loss” that is the budget.

   VIDEO at LINK Below:

http://therightscoop.com/trump-got-rolled-the-republicans-got-rolled-krauthammer-slams-embarrassing-budget/

No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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‘Trump got ROLLED. The Republicans got ROLLED’ – Krauthammer slams ’embarrassing’ budget

    May. 1, 2017 10:26 pm by SooperMexican


El Krauthammero hammers on Trump and the Republicans for the “total loss” that is the budget.

   VIDEO at LINK Below:

http://therightscoop.com/trump-got-rolled-the-republicans-got-rolled-krauthammer-slams-embarrassing-budget/

WRONG.  Trump did not get rolled.  The GOP did not get rolled. 

The American people got rolled.

They got rolled for being led to believe that the Republican Party and Trump were going to do what they campaigned on.

They were proven to be bigger suckers than even PT Barnum envisioned.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

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WRONG.  Trump did not get rolled.  The GOP did not get rolled. 

The American people got rolled.

They got rolled for being led to believe that the Republican Party and Trump were going to do what they campaigned on.

They were proven to be bigger suckers than even PT Barnum envisioned.

OK folks, what's the alternative now? What to do in 2018?

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OK folks, what's the alternative now? What to do in 2018?

We will be told the same stupid crap: to shut up, sit down and eat your sh*t sammich and like it.  Pragmatism boy.  Pragmatism.  Because the perfect is the enemy of good they say.

So - enjoy the 'good' folks.  More of the same crap we would have had if Hildabeast was running the circus there at Mordor on the Potomac.

As far as an 'alternative' - the Declaration of Independence spells it out, but no one has principles great enough to risk what our forbears did to preserve liberty.

Hell, we cannot even agree among ourselves what the definition of liberty is supposed to be.  Right now, most will say it is the liberty to be able to do whatever is right in your own eyes.

And so - our lot is sealed.
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OK folks, what's the alternative now? What to do in 2018?

   My only suggestion, as simple as it is, @SirLinksALot is to persuade (somehow) the few REAL Conservatives out there (Cruz, Lee, Meadows etc...) to migrate away from the DEM Lite party (REP) and switch over to the Federalist or Constitution Party and times a wasting.
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WRONG.  Trump did not get rolled.  The GOP did not get rolled. 

The American people got rolled.

They got rolled for being led to believe that the Republican Party and Trump were going to do what they campaigned on.

They were proven to be bigger suckers than even PT Barnum envisioned.

While I agree with the general concept, I don't think they 'got rolled', I think we (the American people) are getting what we deserved.

For the longest time we (right and left) demanded government solutions to everything. For the longest time we expect someone from the government who is here to help. For the longest time we have been slowly loosing our own objectivity and replacing it in blind faith in 'our team' in the government. For the longest time we believe more and more in the propaganda being targeted to us.

We are getting what is coming to us because we forgot who we are and what made us.

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Trump: Spending bill a 'clear win'

 By Jordan Fabian - 05/02/17 12:25 PM EDT 


President Trump on Tuesday trumpeted the bipartisan spending deal as a “clear win,” just hours after venting his frustration with the agreement.

“After years of partisan bickering and gridlock, this bill is a clear win for the American people,' he said during a ceremony honoring the Air Force Academy football team.


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Trump's speech came roughly an hour after White House budget director Mick Mulvaney took a victory lap on the spending agreement.

“They wanted a shutdown," Mulvaney said of Democrats. "They wanted to try and make this president look like they could not govern. They wanted to make this president look like he did not know what he was doing. And he beat them on that at the very, very highest level."


<..snip..>

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/331558-trump-spending-bill-a-clear-win
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President Trump on Tuesday trumpeted the bipartisan spending deal as a “clear win,” just hours after venting his frustration with the agreement.

I'm now convinced Trump is a sock puppet.

Whatever hand is up him, does all the talking and adopts whatever it is the hand wants him to say and think.

The guy is absolutely hollow.


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   My only suggestion, as simple as it is, @SirLinksALot is to persuade (somehow) the few REAL Conservatives out there (Cruz, Lee, Meadows etc...) to migrate away from the DEM Lite party (REP) and switch over to the Federalist or Constitution Party and times a wasting.

I agree with you 100% ... the time is NOW!  I favor the Constitution Party.
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   My only suggestion, as simple as it is, @SirLinksALot is to persuade (somehow) the few REAL Conservatives out there (Cruz, Lee, Meadows etc...) to migrate away from the DEM Lite party (REP) and switch over to the Federalist or Constitution Party and times a wasting.

Or, reform the R party and move it to the right.  In order to do that we need at a minimum, a conservative in the lead. 

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3549411/posts

I love how many keep saying 'it's The Art of the Deal' as though that is some master stroke. It is obvious most who repeat that title have never actually read the book. It is not a master book on negotiating, it is considered a book that hovers over the fine line of unethical behavior and is only really practice by used car salesmen and MLM pimps.

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Or, reform the R party and move it to the right. 
Nope.

That is a non-starter - a dead idea.  Been trying that for decades after Reagan and the election cycles have proven that is an utter waste of time.  The party is irredeemably corrupted and hostile to the very principles of Conservatism.

It needs to be abandoned and sheltered elsewhere if the principles we hold to as Conservatives are to survive at all.

I'm done practicing insanity.
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Nope.

That is a non-starter - a dead idea.  Been trying that for decades after Reagan and the election cycles have proven that is an utter waste of time.  The party is irredeemably corrupted and hostile to the very principles of Conservatism.

It needs to be abandoned and sheltered elsewhere if the principles we hold to as Conservatives are to survive at all.

I'm done practicing insanity.

Have we tried a conservative leader?  Not to my memory.

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Have we tried a conservative leader?  Not to my memory.

The system is irreparably irretrievably irredeemably broken. No one person or group of people can fix it.

Our only hope is an Article V Constitution convention. While we have as many state houses as we do.
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The system is irreparably irretrievably irredeemably broken. No one person or group of people can fix it.

Our only hope can be found within Article V of the Constitution.

I think that we ought to try all ethical means at our disposal.

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Have we tried a conservative leader?  Not to my memory.

The GOP has rigged itself to NEVER permit someone like Reagan EVER getting into high office within their party ever again.

I would have thought their absolute vitriol over Trump - (having not been groomed by their oligarchy) would have been proof enough of that.

I guess the facts I see can never strip the Normalcy Bias from those who refuse to see where we have arrived.
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The GOP has rigged itself to NEVER permit someone like Reagan EVER getting into high office within their party ever again.

I would have thought their absolute vitriol over Trump - (having not been groomed by their oligarchy) would have been proof enough of that.

I guess the facts I see can never strip the Normalcy Bias from those who refuse to see where we have arrived.


Do you mean me?

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The GOP has rigged itself to NEVER permit someone like Reagan EVER getting into high office within their party ever again.

I would have thought their absolute vitriol over Trump - (having not been groomed by their oligarchy) would have been proof enough of that.

I guess the facts I see can never strip the Normalcy Bias from those who refuse to see where we have arrived.

The establishment happily greased up and got in bed with Trump when it became apparent that their picks wouldn't be winning.