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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #125 on: March 23, 2017, 08:20:33 pm »
   I always sharpen my debating skills with @Jazzhead prior to Family Reunions, but I don't call them names either, I just walk away, shaking my head, to find the backyard and the beer.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #126 on: March 23, 2017, 08:23:50 pm »
Quote from: corbe on March 23, 2017, 08:20:33 pm
   I always sharpen my debating skills with @Jazzhead prior to Family Reunions, but I don't call them names either, I just walk away, shaking my head, to find the backyard and the beer.

You are a better man than I.  I just skip the rels and head for the backyard.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #127 on: March 23, 2017, 08:25:24 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 08:11:58 pm
That's simply bullshit.  I've never claimed to be a social conservative. 

You are not a Conservative of any stripe, shape, form or belief.  You are a Communist by your own mantra of Marx and Engels' 'From each - to each' according to the empowerment you demand we give government to parcel out rights and provisions with 'broader based taxes'.

Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 07:10:39 pm
But there is a proud tradition of conservatism that is secular, that is concerned with individual liberty and Constitutionally limited government (including when it comes to the bedroom),  and emphasizes such things as economic growth and national security.

You are not a Conservative by any measure by of any of those things.  You hate the bible, biblical Christians, seek to empower government force business owners to violate their first Amendment rights, anti-second Amendment, Pro-Government healthcare, pro-Islam, pro-infanticide empower government to impose fairness and equality.

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But it's more than likely correct that you cannot be a social conservative without also being a bully.  Take your meddlesome religious dogma and, in INVAR's words, stuff it!

You prove by your own words that you are Pot and Kettle all rolled into one major Leftist who lies about who and what he really is.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #128 on: March 23, 2017, 08:26:26 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 08:11:58 pm
That's simply bullshit.
You have defined yourself.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #129 on: March 23, 2017, 08:27:12 pm »
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #130 on: March 23, 2017, 08:29:50 pm »
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #131 on: March 23, 2017, 08:33:27 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 07:35:25 pm
You're hung up on labels.  Cannot someone be conservative on certain issues but moderate on others? 

But you avoided my question - why does someone who may disagree with you on political issues "lack grace"?

I've seen you in action.   Trust me....

you ain't got it.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #132 on: March 23, 2017, 08:36:43 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 07:35:25 pm
You're hung up on labels.  Cannot someone be conservative on certain issues but moderate on others? 

But you avoided my question - why does someone who may disagree with you on political issues "lack grace"?

Ironic.  As if "bigot" and "bully" are not labels.  Hypocrite much?

Yep.  Yer a leftie.  No doubt about it.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #133 on: March 23, 2017, 08:40:48 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 23, 2017, 08:36:43 pm
Ironic.  As if "bigot" and "bully" are not labels.  Hypocrite much?

Yep.  Yer a leftie.  No doubt about it.

I don't know how anybody could ever call you one of those things.  You're one of the nicest people around here.   8888madkitty
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #134 on: March 23, 2017, 08:46:49 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 22, 2017, 02:06:08 pm
Strawman.  I've never advocated for any of those things.   Try being honest, bub,
Well when you believe that health care should be meeted on the basis of from each according to their ability to each according to their needs; perhaps you should make clear why you don't agree with Marx on the rest of the market.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #135 on: March 23, 2017, 08:48:53 pm »
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #136 on: March 23, 2017, 08:49:16 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on March 23, 2017, 08:46:49 pm
Well when you believe that health care should be meeted on the basis of from each according to their ability to each according to their needs; perhaps you should make clear why you don't agree with Marx on the rest of the market.

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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #137 on: March 23, 2017, 09:03:43 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 23, 2017, 08:36:43 pm
Ironic.  As if "bigot" and "bully" are not labels.  Hypocrite much?

Yep.  Yer a leftie.  No doubt about it.

And you avoided my question, yet again -  why do you say that one who disagrees with you politically lacks grace?   
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #138 on: March 23, 2017, 09:10:44 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 09:03:43 pm
And you avoided my question, yet again -  why do you say that one who disagrees with you politically lacks grace?
Says the man whose been dodging that his position is Marxism for health care all week.  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #139 on: March 23, 2017, 09:13:11 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 09:03:43 pm
And you avoided my question, yet again -  why do you say that one who disagrees with you politically lacks grace?

You might want to ask yourself that question (not that you'd get an intelligent/cogent answer, mind you)....

since you're the one that posed the "lack of grace" issue first (duh).


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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #140 on: March 23, 2017, 09:13:26 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on March 23, 2017, 09:10:44 pm
Says the man whose been dodging that his position is Marxism for health care all week.  *****rollingeyes*****

The same one who called Xena a bigot and a bully, yeah that one.  Our definition of "man" may differ.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #141 on: March 23, 2017, 09:17:17 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 23, 2017, 08:40:48 pm
I don't know how anybody could ever call you one of those things.  You're one of the nicest people around here.   8888madkitty

Yeah, uh....no.  I'm not nice.  I'm a Killah Kitty!  I've just been keeping a low profile....hehe.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #142 on: March 23, 2017, 09:19:19 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 23, 2017, 09:17:17 pm
Yeah, uh....no.  I'm not nice.  I'm a Killah Kitty!  I've just been keeping a low profile....hehe.

Oh, I remember...lol.  I always tried hard to stay on your good side (at TOS), although I never knew how or even if I was successful at it.   :shrug:
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #143 on: March 23, 2017, 09:19:52 pm »
Those that insist on continuing to argue with JH need to read http://xroads.virginia.edu/~ug97/remus/tar-baby.html
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #144 on: March 23, 2017, 09:20:55 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 23, 2017, 09:13:11 pm
You might want to ask yourself that question (not that you'd get an intelligent/cogent answer, mind you)....

since you're the one that posed the "lack of grace" issue first (duh).

I was objecting to an obnoxious remark directed at RIV.   Apparently, defending a member from one bully brings out all the others to pile on.

Graceless.   
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #145 on: March 23, 2017, 09:23:09 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 09:20:55 pm
I was objecting to an obnoxious remark directed at RIV.   Apparently, defending a member from one bully brings out all the others to pile on.

Graceless.

Point made, case closed.  And like I said....

hypocrite much?
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #146 on: March 23, 2017, 09:26:54 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 23, 2017, 09:19:52 pm
Those that insist on continuing to argue with JH need to read http://xroads.virginia.edu/~ug97/remus/tar-baby.html

 :laugh:  Those of us who already know that learnt it the hard way...lol.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #147 on: March 23, 2017, 09:28:52 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 23, 2017, 09:19:19 pm
Oh, I remember...lol.  I always tried hard to stay on your good side (at TOS), although I never knew how or even if I was successful at it.   :shrug:

Hey.... as long as you're not a leftie (or act like one)....

I'm a pussycat.  No claws.  See? 



Well....ok.  There's claws.  But I won't use them (unless).

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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #148 on: March 23, 2017, 09:29:49 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 23, 2017, 09:20:55 pm
I was objecting to an obnoxious remark directed at RIV.   Apparently, defending a member from one bully brings out all the others to pile on.

Graceless.

@Right_in_Virginia is very good at defending herself.  I'd lose the "Bully" epithet if I were you, you will get hammered for it around here.  It gives you away.
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Re: Exclusive — Rand Paul: ‘Easily 35 No Votes’ Against Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, ‘I Would Predict They Pull Bill, Start Over’
« Reply #149 on: March 23, 2017, 09:31:01 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 23, 2017, 09:28:52 pm
Hey.... as long as you're not a leftie (or act like one)....

I'm a pussycat.  No claws.  See? 



Well....ok.  There's claws.  But I won't use them (unless).

Honest.    :laugh:

Ooooh!  She has...wait for it...wait..."Jazz Hands!"   :silly: :rolling:
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