ALERT: Mexico REFUSES to Accept ILLEGALS that are Deported…

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ALERT: Mexico REFUSES to Accept ILLEGALS that are Deported
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ALERT: Mexico REFUSES to Accept ILLEGALS that are Deported…
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As Reported by USA Today:

    Mexico will vigorously fight U.S. mass deportations of undocumented immigrants back to Mexico and refuse to accept any non-Mexicans expelled across the border, Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray vowed Wednesday.
    A day after the Trump administration unveiled tough new guidelines for enforcing immigration laws, Videgaray said the treatment of Mexican migrants in the United States would top his country’s agenda when President Enrique Peña Nieto meets Thursday with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly.
    “I want to make clear, in the most emphatic way, that the government of Mexico and the Mexican people do not have to accept measures that, in a unilateral way, one government wants to impose on another,” Videgary said.
 
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[geronl]

Why would anyone think Mexico should take non-Mexicans?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Why would anyone think Mexico should take non-Mexicans?

Are you suggesting that a non-Mexican who walks across the Mexican-US border must remain in the US and not be immediately deported?

If the answer is yes, then no wonder why we need a wall.

If the answer is no, then exactly what are you saying?

[Resp3]

Mexico is full of OTM's (Other than Mexicans) who are at our borders trying to cross like many Mexicans are.

So should we deport an illegal Guatemalan to Mexico simply because he crossed over from there.

Yes. Not many people know it, but Mexico has a serious illegal immigrant problem also. So why should Mexico's problem be ours as well.

[dfwgator]

Why would anyone think Mexico should take non-Mexicans?

Why should we take them?

I say, send them to Trudeau-Land,  he loves them.

[skeeter]

Why would anyone think Mexico should take non-Mexicans?

Another poster said it is internationally agreed per some treaty or other that deportees go back to their point of debarkation.The assumption being they'll eventually wind up in their home.

I'm trying to nail that one down.

[Oceander]

Another poster said it is internationally agreed per some treaty or other that deportees go back to their point of debarkation.The assumption being they'll eventually wind up in their home.

I'm trying to nail that one down.

I believe that only applies if the alien arrived by air or sea and was denied entry. In that case, the carrier who brought the alien is required to return the alien to the point of embarkation.  This is why most international travel requires you to have a return ticket: so you've already paid for your flight back if you're denied entry. 

I don't believe this applies once the alien is inside the country. 

[r9etb]

Are you suggesting that a non-Mexican who walks across the Mexican-US border must remain in the US and not be immediately deported?

If the answer is yes, then no wonder why we need a wall.

If the answer is no, then exactly what are you saying?

They're being consistent, in that regard: Mexico has a rather stern immigration policy with regard to its southern border with Guatemala.  They allow very limited immigration into Mexico, though their willingness to allow "pass-through privileges" seems to be quite a bit less strict.

Mexico quite reasonably, if a bit hypocritically, has no interest in accepting the financial burden of non-Mexican immigrants.

[Sanguine]

They're being consistent, in that regard: Mexico has a rather stern immigration policy with regard to its southern border with Guatemala.  They allow very limited immigration into Mexico, though their willingness to allow "pass-through privileges" seems to be quite a bit less strict.

Mexico quite reasonably, if a bit hypocritically, has no interest in accepting the financial burden of non-Mexican immigrants.

I think I have seen some stories that show the Mexican government helping OTMs get to our border through Mexico. 

[r9etb]

I think I have seen some stories that show the Mexican government helping OTMs get to our border through Mexico.

The people will cross the border; so from Mexico's perspective it's good policy to help them go north.  First, it probably brings a little money into the Mexican economy, and more importantly it ensures that they won't settle down in Mexico.

[Frank Cannon]

The people will cross the border; so from Mexico's perspective it's good policy to help them go north.  First, it probably brings a little money into the Mexican economy, and more importantly it ensures that they won't settle down in Mexico.

So it is then fair that we get stuck with them? Trump wants them out so obviously you are for taking in as many wetbacks as possible.

[Oceander]

Are you suggesting that a non-Mexican who walks across the Mexican-US border must remain in the US and not be immediately deported?

If the answer is yes, then no wonder why we need a wall.

If the answer is no, then exactly what are you saying?

Depends on the details.  If he's found within the country he can be detained, but cannot be immediately driven to the border and dumped on the other side.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

They're being consistent, in that regard: Mexico has a rather stern immigration policy with regard to its southern border with Guatemala.  They allow very limited immigration into Mexico, though their willingness to allow "pass-through privileges" seems to be quite a bit less strict.

Mexico quite reasonably, if a bit hypocritically, has no interest in accepting the financial burden of non-Mexican immigrants.

So you are saying it is reasonable that if a non-Mexican walks into the US from Mexico across the Mexican/US border the US MUST accept him and Mexico has no responsibility to keep him?

That is reasonable?

[r9etb]

So it is then fair that we get stuck with them? Trump wants them out so obviously you are for taking in as many wetbacks as possible.

You never pass up a chance to miss a point, do you, Frank?

[r9etb]

So you are saying it is reasonable that if a non-Mexican walks into the US from Mexico across the Mexican/US border the US MUST accept him and Mexico has no responsibility to keep him?

That is reasonable?

It's reasonable from Mexico's perspective. 

[jpsb]

I think I have seen some stories that show the Mexican government helping OTMs get to our border through Mexico.

Ya think?



Riding 'The Beast' Across Mexico To The U.S. Border

Mexico helped them get here, Mexico can help them get back home.

[The_Reader_David]

The Mexican position on this is perfectly reasonable.  Suppose a person in the US illegally, say a visa over-stayer, goes to Canada by trekking across an uncontrolled bit of border, is picked up for being in Canada illegally.  Should the US take him back, or should Canada deport him to his country of origin?  Obviously the latter, and the US would be perfectly within our rights to refuse him reentry, since he doesn't have a valid visa -- unless the US and Canada have a treaty that obliges them to behave differently than generally applicable principles of international law..  Likewise, Mexico has no obligation to take back anyone deported from the US other than their own citizens -- unless, as one poster suggested they have undertaken to do so by treaty.

One wonders why this is even news...

[Sanguine]

It's reasonable from Mexico's perspective.

Wrong and unethical and reasonable from Mexico's perspective - yes.  Now, we need to make it reasonable for Mexico to NOT contribute to our illegal alien problem.

[jpsb]

It's reasonable from Mexico's perspective.

And it is reasonable from the US perspective to dump them all on the Mexican side of the border and tell Mexico to go pound sand.

[jpsb]

The Mexican position on this is perfectly reasonable.  Suppose a person in the US illegally, say a visa over-stayer, goes to Canada by trekking across an uncontrolled bit of border, is picked up for being in Canada illegally.  Should the US take him back, or should Canada deport him to his country of origin?  Obviously the latter, and the US would be perfectly within our rights to refuse him reentry, since he doesn't have a valid visa -- unless the US and Canada have a treaty that obliges them to behave differently than generally applicable principles of international law..  Likewise, Mexico has no obligation to take back anyone deported from the US other than their own citizens -- unless, as one poster suggested they have undertaken to do so by treaty.

One wonders why this is even news...

I would think that if the US provided transportation and documents showing how to illegally cross the Canadian border, then Canadian would have some justification for dumping his a$$ on the US side of the Canadian border.

[r9etb]

And it is reasonable from the US perspective to dump them all on the Mexican side of the border and tell Mexico to go pound sand.

A bit hypocritical, too -- if we don't want illegal aliens, neither does Mexico want them.  Mexico could certainly shoulder the burden of giving them free passage back to the Guatemalan border, but we can't force them to do so.  They're in the US now -- and thus not Mexico's problem any more.

[r9etb]

The Mexican position on this is perfectly reasonable.  Suppose a person in the US illegally, say a visa over-stayer, goes to Canada by trekking across an uncontrolled bit of border, is picked up for being in Canada illegally.  Should the US take him back, or should Canada deport him to his country of origin?  Obviously the latter, and the US would be perfectly within our rights to refuse him reentry, since he doesn't have a valid visa -- unless the US and Canada have a treaty that obliges them to behave differently than generally applicable principles of international law..  Likewise, Mexico has no obligation to take back anyone deported from the US other than their own citizens -- unless, as one poster suggested they have undertaken to do so by treaty.

One wonders why this is even news...

You make the mistake of treating this discussion as one that can be conducted reasonably. 

[skeeter]

And it is reasonable from the US perspective to dump them all on the Mexican side of the border and tell Mexico to go pound sand.

Once the wall and social welfare reforms are in place why not offer each a $5k cashiers check at the border to self deport? Considering what they now cost us on average we'd recover the investment in a year.

Then we wouldn't have to worry about what Mexico says.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

It's reasonable from Mexico's perspective.

You just affirmed the need for the wall, and it needs to be a big one.

[r9etb]

You just affirmed the need for the wall, and it needs to be a big one.

Nah.  The wall isn't actually necessary.  At root, people cross the border because, in various ways, Americans pay them to cross the border.