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That's a beautiful sight @Cripplecreek .  When my dad's mother died, when he was a child and his father abandoned him and his 2 siblings.  The small town in Iowa raised the 3 of them.  So I have a pretty warm spot for small towns and what they provide.  All 3 kids turned out well.....2 doctors and the sister and her husband owned one of the largest Heating & Air co's in the Midwest.

There are less than 100 of us here. I grew up in a much larger town of 300 people.

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I rarely eat fast food, but when I do, it's never McDonald's.

Ditto. The times I've been to McDonald's lately it reminded me of school cafeteria food.

For me, it is Mexican taco stands. Funny thing, they were all open yesterday too.

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When I eat fast food, McDonalds is my preference.  To each their own.

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It's a free country.  But for folks on fixed incomes, it's an inexpensive, tasty meal in a safe and welcoming atmosphere.  Free refills, too.

You know, I was stating my preference, not commenting on anyone else's.  Do I have to explain that?

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The breakfast sandwiches are good.

I haven't had one of their breakfast sandwiches in a loooong time, but now that you mention it, they had a good sausage biscuit.

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McDonald's has great coffee.  I would much rather drink a cup of McD's than Starbucks overpriced, bitter coffee.

I can't do Starbucks coffee, either.  I tried McDonald's once, but it was too weak for me.  I'm used to the jet fuel my husband brews, lol.

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Ditto. The times I've been to McDonald's lately it reminded me of school cafeteria food.

For me, it is Mexican taco stands. Funny thing, they were all open yesterday too.


Ha! 

I love Arby's.  Roast beef piled high with barbecue sauce....yum.  I know some people say they're mystery meat, but I like a good mystery now and then.   ^-^

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I rarely eat fast food, but when I do, it's never McDonald's.

Same here.  And I never ever get breakfast fast food any more.  Used to all the time back when I worked full time though.  These days if I don't feel like cooking breakfast, I just pop a Jimmy Dean breakfast bowl in the microwave and voila.... breakfast is served.   :laugh:
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I can't do Starbucks coffee, either.  I tried McDonald's once, but it was too weak for me.  I'm used to the jet fuel my husband brews, lol.

I can vouch for McDonalds coffee as well.  It's much better than the swill from Starbucks. 

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I haven't had one of their breakfast sandwiches in a loooong time, but now that you mention it, they had a good sausage biscuit.

The breakfast sandwiches are good, my personal favorite is the sausage egg mcmuffin.  The hash browns are nice too.  Gotta be careful not too eat em too often cause they do add to the bottom line.

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I will only speak to the fast food jobs, those that primarily were for teenagers to learn skills for future employment and make pocket money. You do understand that it was Americans that opened the door for those jobs to be taken over by immigrants don't you? It was the denigration of those jobs by teenagers parents, and other adults that drove the teens away and forced the employers to hire from the only available plentiful source. And then, this is the really hilarious part, those same adults then whined and moaned about the immigrants having stolen those jobs from Americans!
 
 There are plenty of situations to bitch about jobs being taken from Americans and legal immigrants, but the food service is not one of them, Americans gave those jobs away as worthless and demeaning. As to your obvious disdain for Mickey D's? Why do even care if some of them shut down, and I'm sure the Operators will be getting an earful from Corp., since you make it clear you would never give them your trade any way.

 Oh and the situation with fast food jobs, something I can speak with authority on having managed it for twenty three years and during the period when those jobs became anathema to Americans.
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My first reaction to this story is - thanks!  Now, I know which businesses to avoid in the future!

Then I read your comment and I had to nod in agreement with you.  As an example I can speak personally of - my nephew is a highly intelligent kid that is currently working on a Masters in Physics.  He has never held a job in his life!  My sister never wanted him to have to "work" because she didn't want a job to take time away from his "studies" - even though he parties and vacations on her dime and on his presumed "study time". 

He plans on going on for a doctorate - and will never have worked a day in his life. 

You are correct - so many of today's parents think it is detrimental for their precious to have to work a menial job. 

Thank you to my awesome mother, who is in heaven - when I turned eleven years old - she told me that they would provide my shelter, food and basic necessities (clothing they could afford and any care I needed), BUT if I wanted to buy records and trendy outfits - and if I ever wanted my own car, that I would need to start working and saving my money up for such things. 

She told me to make up index cards with my name, phone number and the jobs I was willing to do.  I passed them around my neighborhood and got a couple of babysitting jobs.  Eleven years old and people were trusting me to watch their babies!  I did a good job, changing diapers, washing dishes and doing an occasional load of laundry for them while they were out.  I got all the work I wanted at $1 per hour, until I was sixteen and old enough to get a job at a department store, and later at the theatre. 

I still found time to study and graduate with honors. 

I'd be willing to bet most of these crying snowflakes we see have never worked a day in their lives either. 

It's time to reverse course.
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Winning, in McDonalds' shutting down.
Yeah it was amazing. It was like the whole town came to a stop. Everything was a ghost town yesterday... NOT

I didn't even know this was going on until I got home yesterday and the missus told me about it.
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My first reaction to this story is - thanks!  Now, I know which businesses to avoid in the future!

Then I read your comment and I had to nod in agreement with you.  As an example I can speak personally of - my nephew is a highly intelligent kid that is currently working on a Masters in Physics.  He has never held a job in his life!  My sister never wanted him to have to "work" because she didn't want a job to take time away from his "studies" - even though he parties and vacations on her dime and on his presumed "study time". 

He plans on going on for a doctorate - and will never have worked a day in his life. 

You are correct - so many of today's parents think it is detrimental for their precious to have to work a menial job. 

Thank you to my awesome mother, who is in heaven - when I turned eleven years old - she told me that they would provide my shelter, food and basic necessities (clothing they could afford and any care I needed), BUT if I wanted to buy records and trendy outfits - and if I ever wanted my own car, that I would need to start working and saving my money up for such things. 

She told me to make up index cards with my name, phone number and the jobs I was willing to do.  I passed them around my neighborhood and got a couple of babysitting jobs.  Eleven years old and people were trusting me to watch their babies!  I did a good job, changing diapers, washing dishes and doing an occasional load of laundry for them while they were out.  I got all the work I wanted at $1 per hour, until I was sixteen and old enough to get a job at a department store, and later at the theatre. 

I still found time to study and graduate with honors. 

I'd be willing to bet most of these crying snowflakes we see have never worked a day in their lives either. 

It's time to reverse course.
You got that right. I "worked" It's getting harder though. A lot of the bigger business won't hire anyone under 18, but that's no excuse for folks to be professional students and run up a mortgage payments worth of debt at school.
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Where you live is not always the best guide for what happens in the rest of the country.  Visit most metropolitan areas of any size and you'll see plenty of illegals doing jobs Americans don't want to do.  High school kids mowing lawns, working fast food, and delivering newspapers is mostly a thing of the past.  And getting rid of immigrants won't bring that nostalgic time back.
First of all I never said American kids don't want to work, and yes there are other parts of the country that weren't hit with the same attitude because there were less jobs so food jobs didn't get the same knock. That doesn't change history and the impetus, and now when there are less jobs and Teens don't have the same attitude to food service it something entirely different that keeps many out, the uncomfortable workplace where many around you don't speak English and often insult you, this very same thing was happening in construction with cheaper labor being brought in and speaking Spanish exclusively and at the same time insulting and referring to English speakers in derogatory terms. I saw it when I shifted to construction when I got fed up with customer service. Even now My Son In Law runs jobs for a large construction firm and tell me that the situation with the Hispanics is the same, and that the biggest problem he has with young White men is they A. don't know how to work and B. have a lousy work ethic. This is not to say that he believes Hispanics are better, he would rather have others because along with the same issues of work and ethics he has with the Hispanics there is their racism to be dealt with.
 
No getting rid of immigrants won't bring the old times back, but then I don't want to get rid of immigrants, my parents were immigrants, it's illegal immigrants we need to address, and this lunacy that a fast food or food service job merits the same pay as skilled labor, fifteen dollars an hour is what journeyman receives in many skilled trades and upping the minimum for unskilled labor just cuts the feet out everyone else, especially seniors. California jumped the minimum fifty cents 1/1/17 and the lunatics will do the same 2/1/18, just the liberals way of saying screw the majority of Californians with increased prices across the board. No you can't bring back nostalgic times, but liberals are intent on racing us into the world of automation, which brings us to another entitled wealthy socialist, Elon Musk promoting a universal basic income. God help us.
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I will only speak to the fast food jobs, those that primarily were for teenagers to learn skills for future employment and make pocket money. You do understand that it was Americans that opened the door for those jobs to be taken over by immigrants don't you? It was the denigration of those jobs by teenagers parents, and other adults that drove the teens away and forced the employers to hire from the only available plentiful source. And then, this is the really hilarious part, those same adults then whined and moaned about the immigrants having stolen those jobs from Americans!

Bull fast food jobs have been around since post WW2, and prior to the flood of illegals coming here, fast food jobs were done by Americans or legal immigrates. I can remember plenty of times as a kid in the early 50s, my dad taking the family to a White Castle for burgers late at night. Guess what? Americans were flipping and serving those burgers.

3 cents for a little square burger those where the days!

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Where you live is not always the best guide for what happens in the rest of the country.  Visit most metropolitan areas of any size and you'll see plenty of illegals doing jobs Americans don't want to do.  High school kids mowing lawns, working fast food, and delivering newspapers is mostly a thing of the past.  And getting rid of immigrants won't bring that nostalgic time back.

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I have to add my voice to this side, too. 

Here's a typical story, from what I see around here (East Coast):
I have a friend who worked at McD's when younger; college isn't for everyone, but she's always been a hard worker.  Yet her son didn't even complete high school, but refuses to get a job at McD's, even at 20.  (Her ex has been supportive of his slacker style.)

His peers are similar, having been that way all through high school, whining they can't get a job while the McD's has signs up in the windows.
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Where you live is not always the best guide for what happens in the rest of the country.  Visit most metropolitan areas of any size and you'll see plenty of illegals doing jobs Americans don't want to do.  High school kids mowing lawns, working fast food, and delivering newspapers is mostly a thing of the past.  And getting rid of immigrants won't bring that nostalgic time back.

Not the nostalgia perhaps but those jobs will get done and it will be Americans and legal immigrates doing them. It is ridiculous to say Americans will not do those jobs when Americans have been doing them for generations. Pay a decent wage and the jobs will get done, period end of story.

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Where you live is not always the best guide for what happens in the rest of the country.  Visit most metropolitan areas of any size and you'll see plenty of illegals doing jobs Americans don't want to do.  High school kids mowing lawns, working fast food, and delivering newspapers is mostly a thing of the past.  And getting rid of immigrants won't bring that nostalgic time back.
You are quite right, this is a multifaceted situation.  Child labor laws and OSHA don't help. How many kids have to have their lemonade stands shut down by the government before they get the picture.
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Bravo. I wish I saw this yesterday. Good comeback.

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Not the nostalgia perhaps but those jobs will get done and it will be Americans and legal immigrates doing them. It is ridiculous to say Americans will not do those jobs when Americans have been doing them for generations. Pay a decent wage and the jobs will get done, period end of story.

Most likely, due to the market already pricing in the lower wages, you won't see these jobs (as a whole) being picked up as additional jobs for legal citizens but instead, replaced by automation, efficiency, and increased demand on those currently doing the jobs.

I would suspect if a massive loss of migrant farm labor leaves, for example, initially you would have a big spike in produce costs but shortly after, you'll have innovators come in with new machinery that replaces human labor as increased costs would justify it. You then would have a settling back down of prices. You may even have a net decrease in jobs like that, made up in some part, by an increase in jobs on the manufacturing end for the automation products.

Case in point, the cotton gin replacing slave labor. Eliminating slave labor did not increase the jobs for Americans, it was replaced by the cotton gin and other tools like that.

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McDonald's has great coffee. 

And French fries!   ^-^

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The thing is fast food was never supposed to be a career, well it is for some, I made damn good money managing, but I worked for an Owner/Operator who cared, it was supposed to be a learning experience and to make pocket money. Now we are told that the wages and therefore the prices must be increased so that a bunch of ignorant do nothings can raise a family and buy a home. Of course not all fast food workers are ignorant do nothings, there are still those who move on in education and life, I had many that became teachers, lawyers, police, soldiers and I know that many of our kids continue to do this. But there is a certain class of people, and they do not by any means all come from south of our border, that either can't or won't progress and expect the rest of America to just give them what we all worked hard to achieve. I have no doubt that the give it to me I deserve it attitude is fostered in our schools and by community organizers everywhere.
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We saw very little impact here. One guy on facebook who is a local contractor said he has three people who won't have jobs today and another four who will be getting a big bonus for making up the slack yesterday.

Some others are joking that yesterday was a day without (illegal) immigrants. Starting today is some businesses seeing a day without customers.

I like that idea, let's do a day without customers for Mikey Dee. Let's see how they like that.

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Where you live is not always the best guide for what happens in the rest of the country.  Visit most metropolitan areas of any size and you'll see plenty of illegals doing jobs Americans don't want to do.  High school kids mowing lawns, working fast food, and delivering newspapers is mostly a thing of the past.  And getting rid of immigrants won't bring that nostalgic time back.

True enough, here in small town America its a whole different ball game. However we aren't immune either.

Back in the 80s all of us local teenage boys worked on the local farms all around the area. 5 to 7 dollars an hour under the table was plenty to get us out there for 12 hours a day 5 and 6 days a week and 7 days depending on the season. Today those same farms hire illegals because local kids won't lower themselves to do that kind of work. The farms are paying 12 to 15 dollars per hour under the table these days.