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US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« on: February 15, 2017, 02:01:51 pm »
US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'


By Ryan Browne and Barbara Starr, CNN

Updated 0301 GMT (1101 HKT) February 15, 2017

Washington (CNN)The head of US Special Operations Command said Tuesday that the US government is in "unbelievable turmoil," a situation that he suggested could undermine US efforts to fight adversaries such as ISIS.

"Our government continues to be in unbelievable turmoil. I hope they sort it out soon because we're a nation at war," Army Gen. Raymond "Tony" Thomas told a symposium in Maryland.

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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2017, 02:06:13 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on February 15, 2017, 02:01:51 pm
US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'


By Ryan Browne and Barbara Starr, CNN

Updated 0301 GMT (1101 HKT) February 15, 2017

Washington (CNN)The head of US Special Operations Command said Tuesday that the US government is in "unbelievable turmoil," a situation that he suggested could undermine US efforts to fight adversaries such as ISIS.

"Our government continues to be in unbelievable turmoil. I hope they sort it out soon because we're a nation at war," Army Gen. Raymond "Tony" Thomas told a symposium in Maryland.

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The government Obama put in place is waging war on the President and the American people that elected him.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2017, 02:14:22 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on February 15, 2017, 02:01:51 pm
US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'


By Ryan Browne and Barbara Starr, CNN

Updated 0301 GMT (1101 HKT) February 15, 2017

Washington (CNN)The head of US Special Operations Command said Tuesday that the US government is in "unbelievable turmoil," a situation that he suggested could undermine US efforts to fight adversaries such as ISIS.

"Our government continues to be in unbelievable turmoil. I hope they sort it out soon because we're a nation at war," Army Gen. Raymond "Tony" Thomas told a symposium in Maryland.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/us-special-ops-government-turmoil/index.html

We are a "nation at war"?  Sounds like a quote from Colonel Flagg or General Buck Turgidson.

There is no way in Hades he ever would have uttered those words during the previous administration.

There were a bunch of generals that I respected and admired. There are others who become too enamored with their power and subordinates constantly kissing their rears. He seems to fall in the latter category.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2017, 02:24:23 pm »
Isn't this a rather imprudent statement for a person currently serving in his position to make?
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2017, 02:25:35 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on February 15, 2017, 02:06:13 pm
The government Obama put in place is waging war on the President and the American people that elected him.

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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2017, 02:31:23 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 15, 2017, 02:24:23 pm
Isn't this a rather imprudent statement for a person currently serving in his position to make?

Throughout our history, general/flag officers have been noted for "imprudent" statements. Usually occurs after they pin on their third or fourth star. MacArthur had five stars, and it just emboldened him further.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 02:34:56 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on February 15, 2017, 02:06:13 pm
The government Obama put in place is waging war on the President and the American people that elected him.

You're not going to give credit to Bannon for getting the chaos he bragged about?
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2017, 02:40:21 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on February 15, 2017, 02:31:23 pm
Throughout our history, general/flag officers have been noted for "imprudent" statements. Usually occurs after they pin on their third or fourth star. MacArthur had five stars, and it just emboldened him further.

Sure, but specifically this kind of statement isn't what you want opportunistic enemies to hear.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2017, 02:42:20 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 15, 2017, 02:40:21 pm
Sure, but specifically this kind of statement isn't what you want opportunistic enemies to hear.

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You don't think they already know about it?   It needed to be said because the American people need to hear it.   People outside of Washington have no idea how deep the corruption goes.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2017, 02:43:18 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 15, 2017, 02:40:21 pm
Sure, but specifically this kind of statement isn't what you want opportunistic enemies to hear.

Yeah, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer will jump all over it...McCain and Graham too.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2017, 02:44:43 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on February 15, 2017, 02:42:20 pm
@skeeter

You don't think they already know about it?   It needed to be said because the American people need to hear it.   People outside of Washington have no idea how deep the corruption goes.

Driver, I don't think that comment had any suggestion of corruption in DC, it sounded like a general with political aspirations taking advantage of the situation.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2017, 02:50:33 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on February 15, 2017, 02:44:43 pm
Driver, I don't think that comment had any suggestion of corruption in DC, it sounded like a general with political aspirations taking advantage of the situation.

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Doesn't sound that way to me.   There are plenty of worth generals in the ranks.   Just making it to that rank means a person has above average political skills.   In this case it sounds like he's stating a fact that could get a lot of people killed.   People with access to Presidential communications are leaking information.   As good ole Joe Biden would say "its a big effin deal".   We are seeing the cords that hold this country together unravel and hiding it won't help.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2017, 03:08:06 pm »
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Driver, I don't think that comment had any suggestion of corruption in DC, it sounded like a general with political aspirations taking advantage of the situation.

Thats how I read it.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2017, 03:23:26 pm »
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Doesn't sound that way to me.   There are plenty of worth generals in the ranks.   Just making it to that rank means a person has above average political skills.   In this case it sounds like he's stating a fact that could get a lot of people killed.   People with access to Presidential communications are leaking information.   As good ole Joe Biden would say "its a big effin deal".   We are seeing the cords that hold this country together unravel and hiding it won't help.

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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2017, 03:28:48 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on February 15, 2017, 02:44:43 pm
Driver, I don't think that comment had any suggestion of corruption in DC, it sounded like a general with political aspirations taking advantage of the situation.

Sounds like an Obama era butt kisser who fears that his world is about to be turned upside down to me! But I know nothing!
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2017, 03:28:54 pm »
Trump needs to gain control. He's turning into an epic disaster and I would gather most Americans would agree with me.


Or he needs to resign.


He made another nutso Tweetstorm this morning.


Scary stuff.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2017, 03:32:52 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on February 15, 2017, 03:28:54 pm
Trump needs to gain control. He's turning into an epic disaster and I would gather most Americans would agree with me.


Or he needs to resign.


He made another nutso Tweetstorm this morning.


Scary stuff.

Indeed and he is talking about leaks while turn Mara Lago into Situation room while guests take photo's.

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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2017, 03:39:06 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on February 15, 2017, 03:28:54 pm
Trump needs to gain control. He's turning into an epic disaster and I would gather most Americans would agree with me.


Or he needs to resign.


He made another nutso Tweetstorm this morning.


Scary stuff.

IMO, two problems that will plague the Trump administration, and consequently endanger this country, if not controlled:

1.  Trump is easily distracted.
2.  Trump is thin-skinned.

If a Trump supporter wants to disagree with me, have at it.
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2017, 03:48:06 pm »
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And what does that have to do with my post?
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2017, 03:54:53 pm »
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And what does that have to do with my post?

People have put so much hope in MAG that they refuse to see any failure in Trump.  It wouldn't matter what he does they will disregard it. 

My feeling and it is the same with any faith leader too.   People go to churches where they are faithful to the pastor and if he falls they fall with him.  It is the same thing here.  I am not saying Trump is going to fall but putting a blind trust in any man is wrong.  Humans have failures.

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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2017, 03:57:57 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on February 15, 2017, 02:06:13 pm
The government Obama put in place is waging war on the President and the American people that elected him.

Our government was waging war against the people long before Obama got there.
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2017, 04:44:25 pm »
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Our government was waging war against the people long before Obama got there.

Wall Street and K Street will never stop waging war on Main Street.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2017, 04:45:40 pm »
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Wall Street and K Street will never stop waging war on Main Street.

Until we take away their weapons that is!
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Re: US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2017, 04:57:41 pm »
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Wall Street and K Street will never stop waging war on Main Street.

You think that Trump is not tied to Wall Street?
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2017, 05:01:35 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on February 15, 2017, 03:39:06 pm
IMO, two problems that will plague the Trump administration, and consequently endanger this country, if not controlled:

1.  Trump is easily distracted.
2.  Trump is thin-skinned.

If a Trump supporter wants to disagree with me, have at it.


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3. Careless (ie. the Mar-A-Lago episode this weekend)
4. Doesn't think before he speaks. I read that the Berghdahl trial is now jeopardized because Trump shot off his big mouth during the campaign
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