In Trump's Washington, Nothing Feels Stable

[alicewonders]

Neither has been a soldier.

Hillary is a fraud and a thug...not a politician.

And you and other people here have crowed since as long as I've been here that Trump isn't a politician...he's an "outsider"...remember?

Anyone who knows the definition of what a warrior is knows that neither one of them are even close to being one.

"...2. a person who has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness, as in politics...."

Listen, if you want to argue with the dictionary, be my guest. 

[LonestarDream]

It's not just that his beliefs aligned with mine,  it's also that he had the right philosophical perspective on the role of government in our lives;  Of "natural law"  and what was right and normal.   


He would have done the right thing for the right reasons.   Of course now that Trump has won,  I'm okay with him doing the right thing,  even if it's for the wrong reasons.   


He does seem to be doing the right thing.

@DiogenesLamp  @don-o

When Trump says cut the federal gov down to size to get rid of 70% of the regs and cut taxes and give the gov back to the people, I truly think he means 'liberty' and 'freedom'....

He just means it in plain spoken terms.

[alicewonders]

So I'm a warrior. Cool.

[Right_in_Virginia]

 

[Frank Cannon]

Oh brother. Is this Donny touching down in Viet Nam to deal with crazy woman?

[Wingnut]

Oh brother. Is this Donny touching down in Viet Nam to deal with crazy woman?

Cue up Wagner's Flight of the Valkyries.

[txradioguy]

"...2. a person who has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness, as in politics...."

Listen, if you want to argue with the dictionary, be my guest.

How does forcing your mistresses to obtain abortions and claiming that avoiding getting VD was like being in combat showing great vigor or courage?

I understand the dictionary definition...sadly Trump doesn't come close to fitting it.

[txradioguy]

"Warrior" @txradioguy applies to more than a soldier.  A "warrior" is a fighter;  which is why one can even be a "warrior for peace".

Trump hasn't shown yet he's willing to truly fight for anything.  That remains to be seen over the next four years.

A warrior for peace is like being a slut for chastity.

[Jazzhead]

Do you SERIOUSLY think that, say - Trump were to nominate Merrick Garland as his pick for SCOTUS - the opposition still wouldn't be lashing out at Trump?  Slanting their news coverage against him?  Holding protests, riots and vagina marches against him?  If he gave them everything they wanted, they would still work to obstruct him. 

There is nothing any Republican could ever do that would not get the treatment Trump is getting.  It wouldn't be on such a scale as this, because the typical Republican would have already caved by now, and resigned.

I disagree.  Trump is inviting the treatment he is receiving.  Any other Republican would not have started his term with the unforced errors that Trump has made. 

But Gorsuch was no error - he's a top-shelf, quality pick. The pressure ought to be considerable to afford him, after serious vetting at hearings, with an up or down vote.  The Dems ought not to invite the GOP to exercise the nuclear option;  that fight is down the road when the President is tasked with replacing a liberal on the Court.   Yes, that is exactly what some sober Dems are saying.

But this is quickly and dangerously devolving into irrationality confronting irrationality.   I don't want a good man like Judge Gorsuch caught in the crossfire and victimized.   

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I disagree.  Trump is inviting the treatment he is receiving.  Any other Republican would not have started his term with the unforced errors that Trump has made. 

But Gorsuch was no error - he's a top-shelf, quality pick. The pressure ought to be considerable to afford him, after serious vetting at hearings, with an up or down vote.  The Dems ought not to invite the GOP to exercise the nuclear option;  that fight is down the road when the President is tasked with replacing a liberal on the Court.   Yes, that is exactly what some sober Dems are saying.

But this is quickly and dangerously devolving into irrationality confronting irrationality.   I don't want a good man like Judge Gorsuch caught in the crossfire and victimized.   

 

[Frank Cannon]

How does forcing your mistresses to obtain abortions and claiming that avoiding getting VD was like being in combat showing great vigor or courage?

Are you serious? Donny did say he would bang an 18 year old Lindsay Lohan even though she had freckles and was bat shit crazy. What more of an example of courage do you need?

[txradioguy]

Are you serious? Donny did say he would bang an 18 year old Lindsay Lohan even though she had freckles and was bat shit crazy. What more of an example of courage do you need?

Well anyone who is brave enough to hook up with a soul stealing ginger might be deserving of some kind of award I guess.

[Sanguine]

"Warrior" @txradioguy applies to more than a soldier.  A "warrior" is a fighter;  which is why one can even be a "warrior for peace".

There is an element of personal risk involved, which is entirely absent in Trump's history, unless you want to count his "personal Vietnam".

[DCPatriot]

Here's some news!  The ELECTION is over and Trump is now president of the United States whether you like it or not!  He's going to remain in that office for at least the next four years and more than likely 8 years!  Better come to grips with that or it's going to be a LONG period for you!

 

[XenaLee]

But, the point is that even Jesus got serious and angry when something that shouldn't have been desecrated was.

No, that's not the point at all. 

Saying that "even Jesus got angry" is an obvious attempt to compare Jesus getting angry with Trump getting angry.  Sorry...but that's idiotic.  And as far as desecration goes.... there is ALSO no comparison to Trump being (now) anti-lobbying vs. how he was 'before' he decided to run as a Republican for president.  Trump was all in re: the pay for play game.  And...lobbying in DC is not equal or equivalent to money-changing in the Jewish temple.  I can't believe it's even necessary to point out the glaring difference.  Sheesh.

[Sanguine]

No, that's not the point at all. 

Saying that "even Jesus got angry" is an obvious attempt to compare Jesus getting angry with Trump getting angry.  Sorry...but that's idiotic.  And as far as desecration goes.... there is ALSO no comparison to Trump being (now) anti-lobbying vs. how he was 'before' he decided to run as a Republican for president.  Trump was all in re: the pay for play game.  And...lobbying in DC is not equal or equivalent to money-changing in the Jewish temple.  I can't believe it's even necessary to point out the glaring difference.  Sheesh.

Well, we disagree.  Sheesh.

[Frank Cannon]

Well, we disagree.  Sheesh.

Could we tone down the language. This is a family* site.


*More like the Manson Family.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

there is ALSO no comparison to Trump being (now) anti-lobbying vs. how he was 'before' he decided to run as a Republican for president.  Trump was all in re: the pay for play game.

Businesses don't make the rules.  Business are forced to play under the rules enacted by politicians, because that's what their competition is doing.  It is the job of politicians to enact the rules.  There are a ton of places overseas -- particularly in the Third World -- where bribes are a necessary part of a lot of things.  Just because you bribe someone doesn't mean you approve of bribery.  It's the environment in which you're required to act.

That is different from claiming that the rules are fair, just, or shouldn't be changed.  It is the equivalent of taking advantage of a business tax credit that you don't believe should exist.  It's your money, and if the credit is offered, others are going to take it.  So rather than essentially subsidizing them, there's nothing wrong with taking it yourself even if you think it is a bad idea overall.

But that doesn't make you a hypocrite if you run for office and then repeal the credit, because that is creating the same playing field for everyone.

[Sanguine]

Could we tone down the language. This is a family* site.


*More like the Manson Family.

I'm going to blame that on @XenaLee.   That's totally her word.   

[geronl]

Do you SERIOUSLY think that, say - Trump were to nominate Merrick Garland as his pick for SCOTUS - the opposition still wouldn't be lashing out at Trump?  Slanting their news coverage against him?  Holding protests, riots and vagina marches against him?  If he gave them everything they wanted, they would still work to obstruct him. 

and Trump supporters would claim this means Trump is doing the right thing.

[geronl]

. there is ALSO no comparison to Trump being (now) anti-lobbying vs. how he was 'before' he decided to run as a Republican for president. 

Trump is hiring the biggest lobbyists in town for his administration... Tillerson was one the biggest-spending lobbyists in DC.

[DiogenesLamp]

I have no problem with "keeping promises".  But his travel ban (actually a moratorium, not a ban) was poorly conceived and executed, and has galvanized the opposition against him. 

Faulty assumption.   It didn't matter what he did,  they were going to be just as shrill in their condemnation of it.   They were against him before he did anything.   

He's tripping all over himself - he's not showing leadership,  he's acting impulsively and on the basis of bad advice.

Not at all.   This issue is more symbolism than substance.   He gets huge points among his base for carrying out his word,  "D@mn the torpedoes full speed ahead!"  Banning entry from these seven countries for 90 days is not likely to have any or much impact on real incidence of terrorism.   Doing it serves mainly to bolster his base's confidence in him,  and to make his opposition realize he will not hesitate to do things if he thinks it is necessary.   


The Russians said that it was Reagan's firing of PATCO that convinced them this was a man who meant what he said.  (Unlike that stupid and feckless Jimmy Carter fool.)   

Trump is at the "demonstrating he means it" stage.

[Norm Lenhart]

Cue up Wagner's Flight of the Valkyries.

No, you gotta think somewhat more modern.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5mtclwloEQ

[DiogenesLamp]

@DiogenesLamp  @don-o

When Trump says cut the federal gov down to size to get rid of 70% of the regs and cut taxes and give the gov back to the people, I truly think he means 'liberty' and 'freedom'....

He just means it in plain spoken terms.

I think Trump is  very patriotic,  and I think he is doing things that he thinks are in the best interest of the nation,   but this is not the same thing as being a philosopher who contemplates why certain positions are beneficial and why others are detrimental. 


It's the difference between careful aiming and shooting from the hip.   Fortunately for us,  Trump is pretty good at shooting from the hip. 


He's getting stuff right,  even without the philosophical contemplation. 

[Norm Lenhart]

Well anyone who is brave enough to hook up with a soul stealing ginger might be deserving of some kind of award I guess.

I married one and not only survived the experience, but outlived her. I should therefore be worshiped as a god.