In Trump's Washington, Nothing Feels Stable

[musiclady]

They have to know..... that they are ticking some of us off when they do that...right?  lolol

I suppose they could just be playing games when they do, but there are so many out there who really think Trump is some kind of Savior and divine, that it's probably best to point out with clarity that he's not whenever the subject comes up.   

[Norm Lenhart]

I think a lot of that had to do with the tax reforms. If you remember it was rough going from 81-83, just about the time the full effect of the reforms kicked in. Paul Volker and his fed policy helped as well even though that was a shock in the beginning with the interest rates.

No argument there. He indeed had his hands full. The left was intent on blocking anything that interfered with the Carter 'economy'.

I still love how the left screams about "Voodoo Economics" and how it was a total failure, yet at the same time are forced by hard numbers to admit that the Reagan Economy surpassed the Carter economy by every measure.

[don-o]

Of COURSE somebody was going to "do that," because thinking Trump is the Messiah, or Jesus, or David, or whatever is what's happening these days, and it IS frightening.

But I'm at least relieved that you don't think Jesus did "a bad thing" when He overturned the moneychangers tables in the temple.

It's just that the idea that Trump is doing anything similar to what Jesus did is nearing insanity.  Trump IS a moneychanger, not the Savior.....

I must be reading the wrong threads because I ain't seeing that here. Maybe my spidey sense steers me away from 'em.

[txradioguy]

No argument there. He indeed had his hands full. The left was intent on blocking anything that interfered with the Carter 'economy'.

I still love how the left screams about "Voodoo Economics" and how it was a total failure, yet at the same time are forced by hard numbers to admit that the Reagan Economy surpassed the Carter economy by every measure.

Bush 41 should sue the Libs for royalties on that phrase. He coined it in 1980 ina primary debate against Reagan. 

[Frank Cannon]

I still love how the left screams about "Voodoo Economics" and how it was a total failure, yet at the same time are forced by hard numbers to admit that the Reagan Economy surpassed the Carter economy by every measure.

There is some evidence that the reason we haven't economically collapsed totally is because many of Reagan's reforms are still in place.

[Sanguine]

You're either confused.....or are grossly uninformed (uneducated?).  You seem to be overlooking or ignoring the main issue as to WHY Jesus went after the "money changers".  It was because it was in the temple, a place of worship (duh).

To compare that with Trump's anti-lobby sentiments NOW.... when he was a player in that same payforplay network once, is absurd.  And I'm being nice here.

But, the point is that even Jesus got serious and angry when something that shouldn't have been desecrated was. 

[Norm Lenhart]

There is some evidence that the reason we haven't economically collapsed totally is because many of Reagan's reforms are still in place.

Agreed. Thus the reason the left wants all traces of Reagan eradicated. Including those really on the left, but with an "R".

[corbe]

   What I find incredibility disappointing, as a Conservative, is that Ryan (Boehner Lite) is considered the most sane person with any power that we have at this moment.

[Frank Cannon]

And the nationwide 55-mph speed limit.  With that, he turned every adult with a driver's license into a lawbreaker overnight.

The ramifications of having nearly every adult in the nation view our code of law as unjust and worthy of scorn could be considered the nucleus for the lawlessness we see today.

(as well as why lawmakers don't seem to have any problems crafting laws that they know will not be followed)

 :thumbsup3:

[musiclady]

I must be reading the wrong threads because I ain't seeing that here. Maybe my spidey sense steers me away from 'em.

If you mean "here" as in on this forum, the examples are few (though they exist), but if you mean "here" as in among the Trump faithful in the country, you can find numerous examples of people who have lost their proverbial minds because of devotion to Trump.

It's best if you have something that steers you away from them because they are truly scary people.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Nixon also ended the gold standard didn't he?

[musiclady]

But, the point is that even Jesus got serious and angry when something that shouldn't have been desecrated was.

Jesus was dealing with worship of His Father at HIS temple.

There really is no parallel whatsoever, and making that parallel is wrong under any set of circumstances, but especially wrong when you consider that Trump is a corrupt businessman and guilty of being on the opposite side of the issue.

[txradioguy]

Nixon also ended the gold standard didn't he?

Silver Standard IIRC.  Turned the money into meaningless Federal Reserve Notes.

ETA:. The Gold standard ended in 1934. JFK ended the Silver Standard in 1963. 

Nixon ended the ability for someone to exchange paper money for the equal amount in gold or silver.

[Sanguine]

Jesus was dealing with worship of His Father at HIS temple.

There really is no parallel whatsoever, and making that parallel is wrong under any set of circumstances, but especially wrong when you consider that Trump is a corrupt businessman and guilty of being on the opposite side of the issue.

Of course there is a parallel.  I laid it out in my previous statement.

And, we are all corrupt.  Some more than others.  By your logic, none of us could ever criticize an action.

[Frank Cannon]

That was Roosevelt.  Nixon took us off the silver standard.

Google "Nixon Shock".

[Frank Cannon]

Of course there is a parallel.  I laid it out in my previous statement.

And, we are all corrupt.  Some more than others.  By your logic, none of us could ever criticize an action.

Speak for yourself. I personally am perfection, so I can chime in with criticism wherever it is necessary......which is all the time.

[Sanguine]

Speak for yourself. I personally am perfection, so I can chime in with criticism wherever it is necessary......which is all the time.

You're right, Frank.  Sorry, I forgot that. 

 

[DCPatriot]

But, the point is that even Jesus got serious and angry when something that shouldn't have been desecrated was.

Exactly!

[Bigun]

In Trump's Washington, Nothing Feels Stable

I hope the hell not!  I hope he turns the place upside down and shakes the S$%# out of it!

[DCPatriot]

I hope the hell not!  I hope he turns the place upside down and shakes the S$%# out of it!

Like Jesus in the Temple!!                             .......   

[LonestarDream]

Must not have noticed it because I don't run in those circles.   Yes,  i've seen some worshipful Trump supporters but I have never been one of them.   I am a reluctant Trump supporter who would rather have had Cruz. 


Of course after seeing what they have done and attempted to do to Trump,   I am no longer so certain that Cruz could have won the election.   


So far I'm liking what Trump is doing.  I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt,   and I think shaking up Washington is exactly what needs to be done.

Same here !!! Cruz is best positioned in the Senate, even though he most aligned with my beliefs for the presidency .

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I hope the hell not!  I hope he turns the place upside down and shakes the S$%# out of it!

Better be sure what follows isn't worse.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I hope he turns the place upside down and shakes the S$%# out of it!

[musiclady]

Of course there is a parallel.  I laid it out in my previous statement.

And, we are all corrupt.  Some more than others.  By your logic, none of us could ever criticize an action.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.  THIS is what you said:

But, the point is that even Jesus got serious and angry when something that shouldn't have been desecrated was. 

To have any kind of parallel here, Trump would have to be innocent of the corruption he supposedly is trying to rid Washington of.

And he's not.

It's not a matter of claiming that some people are sinless, so Trump's guilt doesn't matter.  It's a matter of Trump's being guilty of the same crime he supposedly is trying to clean up.

The parallel with Jesus and the moneychangers in the temple simply does not exist.

And IMO, it's dangerous to claim it does.

[DiogenesLamp]

I hope the hell not!  I hope he turns the place upside down and shakes the S$%# out of it!

That's what I said!  Some of the Wealthiest counties in the nation are those surrounding the government.   They need to be shook up.