Trump: “There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What do you think—our country’s so innocent?”

[libertybele]

   That doesn't deny the point that some of us expect our President NOT to bash OUR Country, period, and that was the premise of my rant.

   I for one expect our President to conduct himself in a manner that conveys patriotism and speaks of our country with high esteem. Any President that does less than that doesn't deserve any respect from the people who is supposed to be representing.

[musiclady]

  I for one expect our President to conduct himself in a manner that conveys patriotism and speaks of our country with high esteem. Any President that does less than that doesn't deserve any respect from the people who is supposed to be representing.

This President and the last are both narcissists.  They only hold themselves in high esteem, not their country.

I know people get mad at me for harping on character, but it DOES matter.

We elected a completely self-absorbed man.  He will bash America whenever he feels like it.

[Idiot]

This President and the last are both narcissists.  They only hold themselves in high esteem, not their country.

I know people get mad at me for harping on character, but it DOES matter.

We elected a completely self-absorbed man.  He will bash America whenever he feels like it.

Sadly I think you are right............

[musiclady]

Sadly I think you are right............

When a guy has absolutely no core, and has diarrhea of the mouth and fingertips, unfortunately, we can expect pretty much anything from him........ and most of it won't be good.

[TomSea]

It will probably be difficult for him to salvage his rapprochement with Russia after such a thoughtless statement which might be a blessing actually.  What is this? Russia First? Rightfully criticized for this.

[Chosen Daughter]

He thinks that makes what Putin is doing okay apparently.

Idiocy

Yes it is.  It is also more of the same as Obama.  At Every opportunity make America the bad guy.

[libertybele]

Well, he's not wrong.

No country and no person is completely innocent or without fault, that is a given and perhaps that is what Trump meant.  However, his words could and obviously have been taken to imply that he was putting our country down.  His words took me by surprise, as I look back at his pre inauguration ceremony where he placed the wreath at Arlington cemetery, Lee Greenwood singing "God Bless the USA' and military personnel having a large part in the ceremony with the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" being sung at the end during an extraordinary fireworks display.  His actions and words at that ceremony and his inaugural address spoke volumes of patriotism. He also has appointed for the most part a conservative cabinet, conservative justice and is trying to keep us safe and terrorists out of this country; not exactly actions of someone who doesn't hold this country in esteem.

He is hoping that Putin, who is considered the other 'super power' of the world, will help us fight ISIS; certainly he can't expect him to do so if he goes along with the crowd and puts him down.

Interesting that Romney called Russia our number one geopolitical foe; perhaps Trump is trying to keep his enemy close for a reason.

[TomSea]

Russia is demanding an apology from Fox.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/06/russia-wants-apology-after-foxs-oreilly-calls-putin-killer/97540584/

[Rivergirl]

Does DT consider himself among the killers now that he sent our troops into battle and a little girl was killer?

[txradioguy]

Does DT consider himself among the killers now that he sent our troops into battle and a little girl was killer?

He certainly seems to think we're no better than Turkey.

[Jazzhead]

I have no problem with Trump's response to O'Reilly.   I understand where Trump is coming from - a primary leg of his support has been anti-Bush Republicans and independents who believe the actions against Iraq were ill-advised or reckless.   Trump is, as noted above, no believer in American exceptionalism and views policy through a prism of American self-interest, not idealism.   He will partner with "killers" if he thinks it will be in America's interest, and seeks Russian help in diffusing the Islamofascist threat that he believes was stoked by "globalist" American policies.   

[txradioguy]

I have no problem with Trump's response to O'Reilly.   I understand where Trump is coming from - a primary leg of his support has been anti-Bush Republicans and independents who believe the actions against Iraq were ill-advised or reckless.   Trump is, as noted above, no believer in American exceptionalism and views policy through a prism of American self-interest, not idealism.   He will partner with "killers" if he thinks it will be in America's interest, and seeks Russian help in diffusing the Islamofascist threat that he believes was stoked by "globalist" American policies.

Here we go again

[Cripplecreek]

Here we go again

Regan got it right.

some would have us accept them at their word and accommodate ourselves to their aggressive impulses. But if history teaches anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0NXs_uWPgg

[XenaLee]

You're just trying to double down on the faceless name in the crowd thing.

Is it working?   

Nah.  I'm just already FTFU and weary of all the ongoing BS and phony outrage/spin/hyperbole over every single syllable and word the current "Republican" president utters.  It's only 2+ weeks in.... just think of how really sick and tired we'll be two years from now. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Is it working?   

Nah.  I'm just already FTFU and weary of all the ongoing BS and phony outrage/spin/hyperbole over every single syllable and word the current "Republican" president utters.  It's only 2+ weeks in.... just think of how really sick and tired we'll be two years from now.

I think most people will be tired by that, and the President himself (and all his little vendettas) in a very short time.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

I remember when on how we where all outraged when Obama trashed this country.

It's okay now cause it's our guy.

I've never understood the admiration folks have for Putin. I feel like Spock in the original series episode Space Seed when everyone is talking about Khan.

[bigheadfred]

Is it working?   

Nah.  I'm just already FTFU and weary of all the ongoing BS and phony outrage/spin/hyperbole over every single syllable and word the current "Republican" president utters.  It's only 2+ weeks in.... just think of how really sick and tired we'll be two years from now.

This thing is kinda funny. I stepped away to look at it and now I LMAO at it.

[txradioguy]

Regan got it right.

some would have us accept them at their word and accommodate ourselves to their aggressive impulses. But if history teaches anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0NXs_uWPgg

If ever there was a time for this generations Reagan to step up its now.

[Chosen Daughter]

When a guy has absolutely no core, and has diarrhea of the mouth and fingertips, unfortunately, we can expect pretty much anything from him........ and most of it won't be good.

You can bank on it.

[EC]

Look. The USA ranks 108 in the world for intentional homicide (1st if you restrict it to first world countries). 50th in the world for suicide.

Trump's right, no matter how inelegantly he put it. "We've got a lot of killers" is a simple statement of fact. 

[libertybele]

Here is the interview.  I sat and watched...Trump said we are not innocent, he stated that there are a lot of killers and to look at the war in Iraq, said a lot of people were killed, mistakes were made and that he was against the war in Iraq. My assessment after actually watching the interview is that he is stating that the U.S. is not innocent of killing, and pointed to the war in Iraq as an example.  It was absolutely wrong on his part...it seemed he was defending Putin's actions by pointing to our actions.   


www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbIdPUX7zg8

[Jazzhead]

I sat and watched...said we are not innocent, he stated that there are a lot of killers and to look at the war in Iraq, said a lot of people were killed and that he was against the war in Iraq. My assessment after actually watching the interview is that he is  condemning the U.S. for the war in Iraq. 

I agree.   He was echoing what he said in the primary season, differentiating himself on the basis of his opposition to the Iraq war.  He blamed Bush for starting it and Obama for cynically abandoning the Iraqis and creating the vacuum that led to ISIS.   No, we're not innocent.   

[bigheadfred]

You can't blame the military for the Iraq mess. Lay it all at the feet of Bush 2. He needs to be slapped repeatedly for it. And IMO, all the people who supported him for that mess need a good hard slap too.

[libertybele]

I agree.   He was echoing what he said in the primary season, differentiating himself on the basis of his opposition to the Iraq war.  He blamed Bush for starting it and Obama for cynically abandoning the Iraqis and creating the vacuum that led to ISIS.   No, we're not innocent.   

No country is innocent.  That was the point he was trying to make; but he is still condemning the U.S. for the war in Iraq; I see it as a slap in the face to our returning soldiers and those still over there. Think about those who have returned from Iraq and saw some action and now hear  their new president implying that they are killers in order to defend Putin. That is absolutely terrible and Trump was WRONG to make such reference.  He could have simply stated that we are not innocent of war and lives have been lost and left it at that; if questioned aqain, he could have simply stated we are not innocent either .... and let it go.  NEVER should a president call it's country killers!  What about American lives that were lost on 9/11?? Let us remember for heaven's sake why we went into Iraq.  9/11 We must NEVER forget! 

[Jazzhead]

Well, to be fair, it was O'Reilly that used the deliberately provocative word "killer" and made Trump react to it.   I have no problem with Trump's response.  Heck, I think O'Reilly may have been trying to promote his book franchise ("Killing Lincoln", "Killing Reagan", etc.)