Trump: “There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What do you think—our country’s so innocent?”

[Cripplecreek]

You're right, that's not the case.  Trump needs to learn the difference.  I guess a lot of us do.

@CatherineofAragon

Ronald Reagan mentioned the quiet men who don't speak up.

because these ``quiet men'' do not ``raise their voices,'' because they sometimes speak in soothing tones of brotherhood and peace, because, like other dictators before them, they're always making ``their final territorial demand,'' some would have us accept them at their word and accommodate ourselves to their aggressive impulses. But if history teaches anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom.
So, I urge you to speak out against those who would place the United States in a position of military and moral inferiority.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0NXs_uWPgg

[Silver Pines]

I don't watch football anymore...I will watch Victoria later on PBS...

@mystery-ak

I really want to smack myself because I forgot all about that show.  DANG.  I guess I should go see if it repeats.

The one about Henry's wives was really good, though.  The historian who narrated it was really into her subject.

[TomSea]

The Kids Unite! Jack McCain and Liz Cheney whack President Trump for saying Americans are 'killers' like Putin

    Two members of well known GOP families - Liz Cheney and Jack McCain - spoke out against comments President Donald Trump said to Bill O'Reilly
    Trump had questioned whether the U.S. was so 'innocent' after expressing 'respect' for Vladimir Putin, who O'Reilly then labeled a 'killer'
    The president pointed to the war in Iraq, which he says he was against, as evidence that the country's hands aren't so clean
    Cheney and McCain were joined by Sens. Mitch McConnell and Marco Rubio, who also pushed back on Trump's comments
    Vice President Mike Pence, however, wouldn't say on Face the Nation if he believed the U.S. was morally superior to Russia 

By Nikki Schwab, U.s. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com

Published: 18:19 EST, 5 February 2017 | Updated: 18:29 EST, 5 February 2017

Two members of the Republican Party's most well known families took issue with comments President Donald Trump said about Vladimir Putin in a new interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly.

Jack McCain, son of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Liz Cheney, former Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter who is a congresswoman from Wyoming, both pushed back when Trump answered, 'Well, you think our country is so innocent?' when O'Reilly labeled the Russian president a 'killer.'

'My nation of laws just got compared to one that murders journalists that don't fall in line and kills political opposition,' McCain, a Navy helicopter pilot, tweeted. 'Awesome ..........'

Cheney, who was sworn into the U.S. House of Representatives last month, sang a similar tune. 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4194024/Jack-McCain-Liz-Cheney-whack-Trump-Putin-comment.html#ixzz4XrFFHlY9
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon

Ronald Reagan mentioned the quiet men who don't speak up.

because these ``quiet men'' do not ``raise their voices,'' because they sometimes speak in soothing tones of brotherhood and peace, because, like other dictators before them, they're always making ``their final territorial demand,'' some would have us accept them at their word and accommodate ourselves to their aggressive impulses. But if history teaches anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom.
So, I urge you to speak out against those who would place the United States in a position of military and moral inferiority.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0NXs_uWPgg

@Cripplecreek

Well, that was a dose of good sense, wasn't it.

[Norm Lenhart]

Yea Jack if my Dad splashed American aircraft than a VC pilot then sold out his countrymen to the enemy on numerous occasions, I'd shift attention from him too.

[Rivergirl]

The US has probably supported some pretty bad hombres in the past; and now there are people like Duterte out there.

Let's not forget that DT spoke with Duterte and referred to him as a good guy.
But of course, in DT world every bad is good.

[ConservativeGranny]

"The one about Henry's wives was really good, though.  The historian who narrated it was really into her subject."

She has done quite a few documentaries like that. Her name is Lucy Worsley. Check out her documentaries on You Tube.

[Rivergirl]

Lady Conway wants to know why journalists aren't being fired for disrespecting eltrumpoo.

[bigheadfred]

Nearly all of his supporters backed Trump on that, too.

And are almost at the point of calling for that here. 

They're already at calling for Sedition laws to lock journalists up if they don't write the Trump line.

There are too few journalists around these days. And you don't need to lock the others up. Merely beat them about the face and ears with their keyboards a few (dozen) times.

I have been thinking about all this screaming about fake news of late and censorship. As I said on another thread--The little paranoid me, sitting on my shoulder, whispering in my ear, is gaining some weight.

[Norm Lenhart]

Nearly all of his supporters backed Trump on that, too.

And are almost at the point of calling for that here. 

They're already at calling for Sedition laws to lock journalists up if they don't write the Trump line.

I'd like to see that. Do you have a link?

The more the days pass, the more shrill and unhinged your posts are getting. Please show me one person here that loves Putin.

One.

[DCPatriot]

Putin has just as much, if not more, to lose if he doesn't quash ISIS.

Why hand anything over at all?

That's not good dealmaking at all.

Trump couldn't get away with indiscriminate bombing....the way Obama did it...in secret.  OR, the way Putin does it.   Brutal force...kill them...get in and get out.

And as I said, Russia gaining control of the Ukraine and Georgia area, gives them a better view of the Moslem herd to their South.

[bigheadfred]

As far as Putin and  Chechnya is concerned I couldn't care less. Except for one thing. The Brothers Karamazov and the Marathon bombing.

HEY PUTIN! You missed two! Thanks. Thanks a whole bunch.

[XenaLee]

Has anyone here actually seen the interview yet?  I haven't read the entire thread which is why I'm asking.

I reserve judgment until I see for myself in what context the comments were made.  I know, I know....silly moi.  Right?

[bigheadfred]

Has anyone here actually seen the interview yet?  I haven't read the entire thread which is why I'm asking.

I reserve judgment until I see for myself in what context the comments were made.  I know, I know....silly moi.  Right?

Right. Get off the sidelines and get in the game. 

[Norm Lenhart]

You might want to start here:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,247579.msg1216938.html#msg1216938

Even moreso, considering it's a response to a post of *YOURS*.

Oh I know. Which is why it's so funny. For all your blathering about it, you havent produced a post backing up your statements. Read it again. CAREFULLY.

Really, don't you think you have taken your White Knighting of muslims a bit far?

[Norm Lenhart]

Ahem...

Cough cough *CHECHNYA* cough cough.

And?

Might wanna get that cough of yours looked at after evening prayers at the mosque.

[Norm Lenhart]

Your post:

I point out Chechnya, due to the number of dead in that conflict.

And you can't see how that refutes the point *you* made.

Further, yet another personal insult to top off your error.

Probably as it has nothing to do with the point I made.

What personal insult? You have made a stronger and more impassioned excusefest for Islam than any Muslim I ever met. It isn't out of line for me to believe based on your actions that you share their faith.

Lets be honest, John, you are as far as any of us know, an anonymous guy on the net using an alias. For all I know for sure, you could be a black female army captain, a white Bhuddist car mechanic, a Democrat operative of undetermined faith or a Muslim apologist pushing to mainstream Sharia in America.

Based on your over the top defense of Islam and Muslims, going as far at to bastardize the beliefs of Christians, I think you split the difference between Dem operative and Muslim but as this is the net, I have to judge you by your words/actions.

[XenaLee]

Right. Get off the sidelines and get in the game. 

But.... the sidelines are so nice....

and peaceful (relatively speaking)...

[Silver Pines]

"The one about Henry's wives was really good, though.  The historian who narrated it was really into her subject."

She has done quite a few documentaries like that. Her name is Lucy Worsley. Check out her documentaries on You Tube.

@conservativegramma


I just took a look, and there are several I'd like to see.  Versaille and the Battle of Bosworth might be first and second.   ^-^  Thank you, ma'am!

[bigheadfred]

But.... the sidelines are so nice....

and peaceful (relatively speaking)...

You're just trying to double down on the faceless name in the crowd thing.

[endicom]

Has anyone here actually seen the interview yet?  I haven't read the entire thread which is why I'm asking.

I reserve judgment until I see for myself in what context the comments were made.  I know, I know....silly moi.  Right?

Here's a bit more:

"When O’Reilly says “Putin’s a killer,” Trump has an easy comeback available to him: “I know he is, but Mao was much more of a killer and Nixon had the good sense to build a relationship with him. Why? Because it was in the interests of Americans to do so. That’s my goal too, in all things. I’m a realist. I deal with the world as it is, not how I’d like it to be.”"

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/02/05/trump-on-oreilly-calling-putin-a-killer-do-you-think-our-countrys-so-innocent/


Allahpundit is not a Trump fan, as becomes evident in the article.


@XenaLee

[corbe]

   Trump has a point, there's no Innocence here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU

   Anyone that still believes President Trump would spout American Exceptionalist (sic) views should know better.

SANGER: Erdogan put nearly 50,000 people in jail or suspend them, suspended thousands of teachers, he imprisoned many in the military and the police, he dismissed a lot of the judiciary. Does this worry you? And would you rather deal with a strongman who’s also been a strong ally, or with somebody that’s got a greater appreciation of civil liberties than Mr. Erdogan has? Would you press him to make sure the rule of law applies?

TRUMP: I think right now when it comes to civil liberties, our country has a lot of problems, and I think it’s very hard for us to get involved in other countries when we don’t know what we are doing and we can’t see straight in our own country. We have tremendous problems when you have policemen being shot in the streets, when you have riots, when you have Ferguson. When you have Baltimore. When you have all of the things that are happening in this country — we have other problems, and I think we have to focus on those problems. When the world looks at how bad the United States is, and then we go and talk about civil liberties, I don’t think we’re a very good messenger.

SANGER: So that suggests that you would not, as, say, President Bush did, the last President Bush, make the spread of democracy and liberty sort of a core of your foreign policy. You would say, “We need allies, we’re not going to lecture them about what they do inside their borders.”

TRUMP: We need allies.

SANGER: And lecture inside their borders?

TRUMP: I don’t know that we have a right to lecture. Just look about what’s happening with our country. How are we going to lecture when people are shooting our policemen in cold blood. How are we going to lecture when you see the riots and the horror going on in our own country. We have so many difficulties in our country right now that I don’t think we should be, and there may be a time when we can get much more aggressive on that subject, and it will be a wonderful thing to be more aggressive. We’re not in a position to be more aggressive. We have to fix our own mess.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/us/politics/donald-trump-foreign-policy-interview.html?_r=1

[endicom]

   Trump has a point, there's no Innocence here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU

   Anyone that still believes President Trump would spout American Exceptionalist (sic) views should know better.


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/us/politics/donald-trump-foreign-policy-interview.html?_r=1

In short, he may be saying that you lead by example. We don't, right now, exemplify what most people would want to emulate.

[corbe]

In short, he may be saying that you lead by example. We don't, right now, exemplify what most people would want to emulate.

   That doesn't deny the point that some of us expect our President NOT to bash OUR Country, period, and that was the premise of my rant.

[bigheadfred]

Right. This country no longer identifies as individuals. They identify as groups. Groups of groups. The American Dream is a CF.

And the last thing we need is critical thinking.