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I like most of Trump's policies, it's his style I disagree with.

I agree. 

Speaking of style, I would say I definitely don't like Trump's bragging.  But the main reason why I didn't vote for him was his long history of lying.  (Trump even seems to be proud of his lack of a conscience in that regard.)

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Name ONE single presidential candidate since Goldwater that was what he claimed to be.

Reagan.
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I may be wrong,but it seems to me that at least half the people who claim to be conservatives that hate Trump are actually alleged Republican Party People,and are still upset that someone who hadn't carried water for the Bush Crime Family and didn't wear a Big Red "R" on their chest 2 decades ago will never be suitable to any of them.

WHY is everybody overlooking the obvious,which is that Trump is a businessman,and not a dictator. Like all successful businessmen,he has surrounded himself with specialists in the field of business,law,taxes,economics,and history,and when he wants to do something he consults the experts before he makes a move and then does what they tell him he needs to do to "win".

And make no mistake about it,there is NOTHING in the entire universe a narcissistic egomaniac like  him wants more that to "win" Being tagged as a "loser" is a fate worse than death to him,and now he will soon be in the most public and exposed position of his life with EVERYBODY watching and almost nobody willing to cut him any slack at all. If he screws this up there is no way in hell that he can lie himself out of it. It will all be right out there in public for everyone to see.

MY hope and recent prediction is that his massive ego will force him to do the best he can do in order to go down in the history books as one of the greatest presidents in the last 100+ years,not a bum that screwed up everything he touched.

While I am not happy with a couple of the Generals he is auditioning for cabinet positions,I am pretty happy about a few of the others he wants to appoint to cabinet positions. More importantly,I haven't heard a name yet I am violently opposed to since Rudy and fat boy were sent to the showers.

When considering who he seems to be picking for advisors,you would have to be nuts to not think he will be a more pro-American President than Bubbette! and Bill Clinton.

For me,he nor any other candidate has to be perfect. They just have to be what I consider to be "right" on the big issues like immigration,gun control,EPA,etc,etc,etc. When I look at who he is talking with and the moves he has been making,I think I have reason to be hopeful that at least half of the things that are important to me will be addressed and corrected. Maybe even more.

AND.....,if he turns out to be wildly successful at turning back leftism while killing off the alleged Republican Party by doing so,I will be forced to break out into my "happy dance".  The RNC has been nothing less than accomplices to the DNC ever since Reagan left office,and a bunch of those bastards need to be shown the door.

And no matter how much he screws up,he will still get more pro-American stuff done than Hillary,whose whole life has been devoted to destroying America.

 
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A Republican and Conservative. 

He's neither.

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Who was that was running for president this year?
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I guess we'll be just hoping for the best, because this has been a Fustercluck from the get-go.
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Who was that was running for president this year?

A fraud.

As I said in a earlier post...we got the President we deserve...NOT the one we need.
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Just to alleviate your concern even more there is this too:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/20/george-w-bush-reportedly-rips-ted-cruz-to-jeb-bush-donors.html

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Thanks! The more the Bush Crime Family brag on him by saying they hate him,the sadder I feel about him not winning the primary.
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Reagan.

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Ok,ya got me there. Reagan was such an aberration that I overlooked him by mistake.

OTHER than Reagan,then.
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Who was that was running for president this year?

I thought Cruz would have been good, but I don't know if he could have beaten Clinton.  Too hated.
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I thought Cruz would have been good, but I don't know if he could have beaten Clinton.  Too hated.

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It seemed to me it was mostly the party insiders and "usual suspects" that hated him,and it is they who are most responsible for Cruz not winning the primary.

BUT....,Cruz is still a young guy,and by Presidential standards he will still be a young guy 4 and 8  years from now. It gives me some comfort to think he is waiting for his next big chance.
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It seemed to me it was mostly the party insiders and "usual suspects" that hated him,and it is they who are most responsible for Cruz not winning the primary.


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I may be wrong

   Shoulda stopped right there, cause you proved your argument is ludicrous by continuing.

   Your hate for anything Bush borderlines on MY Trump Derangement Syndrome LEVEL, I'm seeking help I would encourage you to do so also.



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It seemed to me it was mostly the party insiders and "usual suspects" that hated him,and it is they who are most responsible for Cruz not winning the primary.

A lot of voters I know didn't like him, either.  Didn't like his face.  Deep, huh?
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I may be wrong,but it seems to me that at least half the people who claim to be conservatives that hate Trump are actually alleged Republican Party People,and are still upset that someone who hadn't carried water for the Bush Crime Family and didn't wear a Big Red "R" on their chest 2 decades ago will never be suitable to any of them.

WHY is everybody overlooking the obvious,which is that Trump is a businessman,and not a dictator. Like all successful businessmen,he has surrounded himself with specialists in the field of business,law,taxes,economics,and history,and when he wants to do something he consults the experts before he makes a move and then does what they tell him he needs to do to "win".

And make no mistake about it,there is NOTHING in the entire universe a narcissistic egomaniac like  him wants more that to "win" Being tagged as a "loser" is a fate worse than death to him,and now he will soon be in the most public and exposed position of his life with EVERYBODY watching and almost nobody willing to cut him any slack at all. If he screws this up there is no way in hell that he can lie himself out of it. It will all be right out there in public for everyone to see.

MY hope and recent prediction is that his massive ego will force him to do the best he can do in order to go down in the history books as one of the greatest presidents in the last 100+ years,not a bum that screwed up everything he touched.

While I am not happy with a couple of the Generals he is auditioning for cabinet positions,I am pretty happy about a few of the others he wants to appoint to cabinet positions. More importantly,I haven't heard a name yet I am violently opposed to since Rudy and fat boy were sent to the showers.

When considering who he seems to be picking for advisors,you would have to be nuts to not think he will be a more pro-American President than Bubbette! and Bill Clinton.

For me,he nor any other candidate has to be perfect. They just have to be what I consider to be "right" on the big issues like immigration,gun control,EPA,etc,etc,etc. When I look at who he is talking with and the moves he has been making,I think I have reason to be hopeful that at least half of the things that are important to me will be addressed and corrected. Maybe even more.

AND.....,if he turns out to be wildly successful at turning back leftism while killing off the alleged Republican Party by doing so,I will be forced to break out into my "happy dance".  The RNC has been nothing less than accomplices to the DNC ever since Reagan left office,and a bunch of those bastards need to be shown the door.

And no matter how much he screws up,he will still get more pro-American stuff done than Hillary,whose whole life has been devoted to destroying America.

I despise Trump for the same reason I despised Obama.

It's the Golden Rule. (I'm not all that religious, but this has always stuck with me.  No matter what.)

With Obama, if I were a businessman running a small business, would I be outraged at his regulations?  Yes, I would.  Ergo, I could not support him.

With Trump, if I were an American-borne Muslim, could I live with Trump's policies?  No, I would not.  Ergo, even if I'm not affected, I cannot support him.

We understood that once.  That we shouldn't treat others in a manner that we would not tolerate ourselves.  That we must hang together, else we would all eventually hang seperately.

Now... we're looking for scapegoats.  Mexicans!  Muslims!  Who'll be the next to hang?

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A lot of voters I know didn't like him, either.  Didn't like his face.  Deep, huh?

A lot of voters didn't like Trump and he won.

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   Shoulda stopped right there, cause you proved your argument is ludicrous by continuing.

   Your hate for anything Bush borderlines on MY Trump Derangement Syndrome LEVEL, I'm seeking help I would encourage you to do so also.



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Nah,unlike YOU,*I* have reason to hate the Bush Crime Family/Republican Kennedy's.

Your irrational fear of the unknown could stand some looking at,though.
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A lot of voters I know didn't like him, either.  Didn't like his face.  Deep, huh?

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Well,that's what  happens with the Biddy Voters get all hot and bothered.
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I thought Cruz would have been good, but I don't know if he could have beaten Clinton.  Too hated.

   Crux's first month (Pre Donald) was getting his campaign off the ground, Then comes a totally NON-CONVENTIONAL campaigner, accusing him of being a LYING Globalist, constantly and after Ted won IOWA it got worse (though their were a few moments when they worked together), Then came the false charges of INFEDELITY on his 'Ugly' wife while his father hid his role in the JFK assassination.

   Trump convinced his minions to hate Cruz, it worked, He won.

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Well,that's what  happens with the Biddy Voters get all hot and bothered.

Nope. When that happens they fall back and vote for the likes of a xenophobic demagogue like Trump.

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With Trump, if I were an American-borne Muslim, could I live with Trump's policies?  No, I would not.  Ergo, even if I'm not affected, I cannot support him.

We understood that once.  That we shouldn't treat others in a manner that we would not tolerate ourselves.  That we must hang together, else we would all eventually hang seperately.

Now... we're looking for scapegoats.  Mexicans!  Muslims!  Who'll be the next to hang?

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Blah,blah,blah,more mindless bullbush. I don't give a rabid rats ass if he gives all Muslims 30 days to leave America or face hanging. Islam is NOT a religion,it is a dictatorial form of government,AND.....,Islam has declared war on us. We are no more obligated to allow any Muslims to continue to live here freely than we are anyone else who has declared themselves to be our enemy. They have been waging war on the west for over 700 years now,with a few breaks to recover and repopulate after we were forced to kill them off.

Mexicans are a nationality,and by definition are NOT Americans or they would be called Americans. I have known a bunch of people with Spanish last names whose grand-parents or parents have legally came her from Mexico and became US citizens and who were themselves born here,and if you were to call one of them a Mexican,you would be seriously pissing them off.

Any that are living here illegally and who don't want to become Americans instead of remaining Mexicans need to take their asses back across the border or suffer the consequences.
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   Crux's first month (Pre Donald) was getting his campaign off the ground, Then comes a totally NON-CONVENTIONAL campaigner, accusing him of being a LYING Globalist, constantly and after Ted won IOWA it got worse (though their were a few moments when they worked together), Then came the false charges of INFEDELITY on his 'Ugly' wife while his father hid his role in the JFK assassination.

   Trump convinced his minions to hate Cruz, it worked, He won.



Because Trump's essential appeal is to hatred and despair; that's how he got the nomination and the election. 

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Nope. When that happens they fall back and vote for the likes of a xenophobic demagogue like Trump.

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Yeah,it was the Biddies that were all hot and bothered over Trump that had the lust-fest known as "A Day in the Life of George Bush" on FR,huh? Remember them discussing how "hot" he looked "in those tight jeans" while pretending to cut brush?
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Blah,blah,blah,more mindless bullbush. I don't give a rabid rats ass if he gives all Muslims 30 days to leave America or face hanging. Islam is NOT a religion,it is a dictatorial form of government,AND.....,Islam has declared war on us. We are no more obligated to allow any Muslims to continue to live here freely than we are anyone else who has declared themselves to be our enemy. They have been waging war on the west for over 700 years now,with a few breaks to recover and repopulate after we were forced to kill them off.

Mexicans are a nationality,and by definition are NOT Americans or they would be called Americans. I have known a bunch of people with Spanish last names whose grand-parents or parents have legally came her from Mexico and became US citizens and who were themselves born here,and if you were to call one of them a Mexican,you would be seriously pissing them off.

Any that are living here illegally and who don't want to become Americans instead of remaining Mexicans need to take their asses back across the border or suffer the consequences.

If you're going to reply to my post, don't edit it to say what you want it to say.

Here's my original post.

I despise Trump for the same reason I despised Obama.

It's the Golden Rule. (I'm not all that religious, but this has always stuck with me.  No matter what.)

With Obama, if I were a businessman running a small business, would I be outraged at his regulations?  Yes, I would.  Ergo, I could not support him.

With Trump, if I were an American-borne Muslim, could I live with Trump's policies?  No, I would not.  Ergo, even if I'm not affected, I cannot support him.

We understood that once.  That we shouldn't treat others in a manner that we would not tolerate ourselves.  That we must hang together, else we would all eventually hang seperately.

Now... we're looking for scapegoats.  Mexicans!  Muslims!  Who'll be the next to hang?

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If you're going to reply to my post, don't edit it to say what you want it to say.

Here's my original post.

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I quote the part I am replying to. WTH should I cut and past stuff I have no interest in responding to?
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