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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #100 on: November 15, 2016, 04:45:55 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 15, 2016, 04:31:43 pm
RINO = a moron idiot word used by moronic idiots.

That term, RINO, has lost all meaning.  No one on the Right is excluded from being labeled as such by somebody.  You give 10 people the task of listing 10 RINO's and you may get 50 or 60 names.  It has become a hollow aspersion that is absent thought.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #101 on: November 15, 2016, 04:46:02 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 15, 2016, 04:31:43 pm
RINO = a moron idiot word used by moronic idiots.

Never made any sense to me either.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #102 on: November 15, 2016, 04:48:20 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on November 15, 2016, 04:45:55 pm
That term, RINO, has lost all meaning.  No one on the Right is excluded from being labeled as such by somebody.  You give 10 people the task of listing 10 RINO's and you may get 50 or 60 names.  It has become a hollow aspersion that is absent thought.

But it never really had any to begin with.  Because the bottom line is that it really is little more than just a name.  If you say you're a "Republican" when you register to vote, you are.  Calling such a person a "Republican in Name Only" just because they don't vote conservative kind of overlooks the point that "Republicans" can be found at a lot of different points on the political spectrum.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #103 on: November 15, 2016, 04:48:25 pm »
For those who seem to be having trouble with this:

RINO = Trump!
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #104 on: November 15, 2016, 04:49:51 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on November 15, 2016, 04:48:25 pm
For those who seem to be having trouble with this:

RINO = Trump!

I spit my coffee right there!
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #105 on: November 15, 2016, 04:51:07 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on November 15, 2016, 04:48:20 pm
But it never really had any to begin with.  Because the bottom line is that it really is little more than just a name.  If you say you're a "Republican" when you register to vote, you are.  Calling such a person a "Republican in Name Only" just because they don't vote conservative kind of overlooks the point that "Republicans" can be found at a lot of different points on the political spectrum.

True.  It never had meaning - and it has less now. 
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #106 on: November 15, 2016, 04:53:07 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on November 15, 2016, 04:51:07 pm
True.  It never had meaning - and it has less now.

I disagree!  I rarely use it but it does have meaning and it should remain in the lexicon IMHO!
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #107 on: November 15, 2016, 04:56:40 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on November 15, 2016, 04:53:07 pm
I disagree!  I rarely use it but it does have meaning and it should remain in the lexicon IMHO!

Well, I disagree!   :tongue2:

We/I have been equating Republican with the more conservative portion of the electorate.  It has become apparent that that is not true, so the term CINO may be more meaningful.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #108 on: November 15, 2016, 04:58:07 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on November 15, 2016, 04:43:34 pm
Wow talk about a major spin on things.  Let's reflect back at the very beginning of primary season shall we?  Cruz and Trump held a rally together against the Iran deal and they seemed to share an equal admiration towards each other and seemed to hold a lot of the same principles on key issues...that was until Cruz started to surge in the polls.  Trump went ballistic on him with the birther issue, when Cruz won Iowa Trump became relentless and began smearing him personally and politically without ANY provocation from Cruz.  Trump never stopped and went on to verbally assault Cruz's wife and father.  Are you trying to tell me that Cruz's wife and father attacked Trump first?



The statement that you made that Trump only attacks those that attack him first is an absolute downright LIE!

There is no way the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a Natural Born Citizen of the USA.

Sorry but Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen under original intent. Because of that Cruz would never have won the election. In fact up until the 1930's Cruz would not even be considered a citizen of the USA. It was in the 30's that Congress passed a law allowing mothers to pass citizenship on to their children.

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen you are not a Natural Born Citizen you are a naturalized citizen. Our Constitution if gives Congress authority to naturalize citizens. NBC just are citizens, no law makes them a citizen.

Believe me the NBC issue was going to come up. Trump did not bring it up he was asked a question and he gave an honest answer.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #109 on: November 15, 2016, 04:58:55 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on November 15, 2016, 04:56:40 pm
Well, I disagree!   :tongue2:

We/I have been equating Republican with the more conservative portion of the electorate.  It has become apparent that that is not true, so the term CINO may be more meaningful.

You make an EXCELLENT point my dear!   :beer: 888high58888
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #110 on: November 15, 2016, 05:05:37 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 15, 2016, 04:39:18 pm
Ok...I'll type slow so you understand.

You are bashing people here for daring to ask critical questions of Trump.

You lie and call us Hillary supporters and claim we are worse than Communists.

All we have done here is exactly what you did at ToS. 

Yet you want us to receive the same treatment that you got yourself?

Do you NOT see the irony in your belligerence?

Or do you just not care that you are being a flaming hypocrite?

Ok I get your point now, thanks.

You are wrong, I only go after vicious NeverTrumpers. Anyone that wishes to have a conservation about Trump without calling Trump Hitler or some other such nonsense I am find with.  So I dispute your premise.  :)
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #111 on: November 15, 2016, 05:11:51 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on November 15, 2016, 04:58:07 pm
There is no way the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a Natural Born Citizen of the USA.

Sorry but Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen under original intent. Because of that Cruz would never have won the election. In fact up until the 1930's Cruz would not even be considered a citizen of the USA. It was in the 30's that Congress passed a law allowing mothers to pass citizenship on to their children.

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen you are not a Natural Born Citizen you are a naturalized citizen. Our Constitution if gives Congress authority to naturalize citizens. NBC just are citizens, no law makes them a citizen.

Believe me the NBC issue was going to come up. Trump did not bring it up he was asked a question and he gave an honest answer.

Oh goodie.  More of this junk, again.  :rolleyes:
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #112 on: November 15, 2016, 05:12:42 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on November 15, 2016, 04:45:08 pm
If Trump is a conservative I'm the queen of England!  And the last time I looked I was NOT a queen!


Yeah, but I bet you look good in white elbow gloves and a tiara!!
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #113 on: November 15, 2016, 05:16:42 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on November 15, 2016, 05:12:42 pm
Yeah, but I bet you look good in white elbow gloves and a tiara!!

Would we need to curtsey in his presence?  Yeeesh.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #114 on: November 15, 2016, 05:29:39 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on November 15, 2016, 04:44:05 pm
I don't recall Trump attacking Justice Scalia, I do recall Cruz attacking Trump and blaming Trump for violence at his rallies, which we now know was instated by the DNC (Hillary).


It doesn't matter whether you recall Trump attacking Scalia or not, it happened.

Cruz's attack on Trump's rallies started well after Trump started attacking him.

Nice try on the apples and oranges comparison though.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2016, 05:30:09 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on November 15, 2016, 04:58:07 pm
There is no way the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a Natural Born Citizen of the USA.

Sorry but Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen under original intent. Because of that Cruz would never have won the election. In fact up until the 1930's Cruz would not even be considered a citizen of the USA. It was in the 30's that Congress passed a law allowing mothers to pass citizenship on to their children.

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen you are not a Natural Born Citizen you are a naturalized citizen. Our Constitution if gives Congress authority to naturalize citizens. NBC just are citizens, no law makes them a citizen.

Believe me the NBC issue was going to come up. Trump did not bring it up he was asked a question and he gave an honest answer.

Blatant deflection and mis-direction.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #116 on: November 15, 2016, 05:35:16 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on November 15, 2016, 05:30:09 pm
Blatant deflection and mis-direction.

And did you ever notice? The Trump toadies only have about a half dozen narratives that they keep cycling through. Apparently they aren't bright enough to come up with any narratives of their own and Orange Glorious hasn't fed them any new ones.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #117 on: November 15, 2016, 05:36:15 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on November 15, 2016, 04:58:07 pm
There is no way the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a Natural Born Citizen of the USA.

Sorry but Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen under original intent. Because of that Cruz would never have won the election. In fact up until the 1930's Cruz would not even be considered a citizen of the USA. It was in the 30's that Congress passed a law allowing mothers to pass citizenship on to their children.

If a law passed by Congress makes you a citizen you are not a Natural Born Citizen you are a naturalized citizen. Our Constitution if gives Congress authority to naturalize citizens. NBC just are citizens, no law makes them a citizen.

Believe me the NBC issue was going to come up. Trump did not bring it up he was asked a question and he gave an honest answer.

Thanks for proving my point. You attack some other candidate with obfuscating ridiculousness, then cry when you're candidate is attacked.

Bottom line is you want a one way street. Unfortunately things aren't going to work like that.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #118 on: November 15, 2016, 05:41:04 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on November 15, 2016, 04:58:07 pm
There is no way the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a Natural Born Citizen of the USA.

Sorry but Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen under original intent....

Original intent?
 :facepalm2:

If you think you know what original intent means, then you know more than the founding fathers. They had no clue what they were doing when it came to that one and only individual known as a NBC. If they had, they would not have amended and changed the definition just 3 years later. To another ambiguous and unclear meaning. Which has been further defined and redefined by hundreds of court cases.

Face it. Any US citizen may be elected President.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #119 on: November 15, 2016, 05:42:37 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on November 15, 2016, 05:05:37 pm
Ok I get your point now, thanks.

You are wrong, I only go after vicious NeverTrumpers. Anyone that wishes to have a conservation about Trump without calling Trump Hitler or some other such nonsense I am find with.  So I dispute your premise.  :)

No you attack people here...myself included...who said none of that and objected to him based on his words and actions and past history that proved he was a NY Liberal pretendimg to be a Rockefeller Republican.

Even now we're being ostracized for holding him to the promises he made to you guys that hes already backing out of and you and others are making excuses for.

You're now so desperate to back peddle that your making rationalizations for your unwarranted attacks that weren't in your original proclamations against people who didnt support Trump.

You're not the victim here in any sense of the word. So quit trying to pretend you are.

You're a bully plain and simple.

And you revel in being one.
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #120 on: November 15, 2016, 05:43:42 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on November 15, 2016, 04:45:08 pm
If Trump is a conservative I'm the queen of England!  And the last time I looked I was NOT a queen!


Bigun... is that you?
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #121 on: November 15, 2016, 05:45:34 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on November 15, 2016, 05:35:16 pm
And did you ever notice? The Trump toadies only have about a half dozen narratives that they keep cycling through. Apparently they aren't bright enough to come up with any narratives of their own and Orange Glorious hasn't fed them any new ones.

Yah? Sez You!  Cruz also had 5 mistresses and he stole Colorado!

signed: Trump Toadie.

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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #122 on: November 15, 2016, 05:50:27 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on November 15, 2016, 05:12:42 pm
Yeah, but I bet you look good in white elbow gloves and a tiara!!

If I had those things aI would try them on and find out!  :silly: :silly:
 
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #123 on: November 15, 2016, 05:52:29 pm »
Quote from: Resp3 on November 15, 2016, 05:41:04 pm
Original intent?
 :facepalm2:

If you think you know what original intent means, then you know more than the founding fathers. They had no clue what they were doing when it came to that one and only individual known as a NBC. If they had, they would not have amended and changed the definition just 3 years later. To another ambiguous and unclear meaning. Which has been further defined and redefined by hundreds of court cases.

Face it. Any US citizen may be elected President.

BZZZZZ!!!    :nono:
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Re: The next great battle for conservatives: Keeping RINO insiders out of the administration
« Reply #124 on: November 15, 2016, 05:54:44 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on November 15, 2016, 05:43:42 pm

Bigun... is that you?

Damn!  Where did that come from!  I thought I deep sixed every last one of those!


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