Donald Trump: I may not repeal Obamacare, President-elect says in major U-turn

[txradioguy]

Full repeal. We then can work on the issues facing healthcare after that but by keeping the law, conservatives then are admitting that it was a good law but it has problems that need tweaking.

Encouraging more people to be dependent on the government always turns out bad in the end

QFT

[rodamala]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-obamacare-repeals-latest-policies-quote-replacement-president-elect-a7412621.html

Donald Trump has said that he might not repeal Obamacare, perhaps his biggest campaign promise. The President-elect performed the apparent U-turn after his meeting with Barack Obama at the White House this week, he has said. Mr Trump is going to look at "amending" the Affordable Care Act, rather than completely repealing it, he told the Wall Street Journal.

It would appear that his conversion from douchebag Democrat to Worthless C**ksucker Republican is complete.

[Leto]

Well I am not a Trump guy, but in fairness making a conciliatory statement after meeting Obama instead of sticking a thumb in his eye is understandable. We'll se what the reality is soon enough.

[LMAO]

I would appear that his conversion from douchebag Democrat to Worthless C**ksucker Republican is complete.

 Assuming the story is true .  There are two different articles out there that contradict the other

[Cripplecreek]

Assuming the story is true .  There are two different articles out there that contradict the other

Unfortunately Donald Trump has taken multiple contradictory positions on virtually every issue so both stories can be true.

Gonna be a long 4 years and I suspect after about 2 Trump will have decided that he doesn't want a second term.

[LMAO]

Unfortunately Donald Trump has taken multiple contradictory positions on virtually every issue so both stories can be true.

 And you get to pick which position you like

[goatprairie]

Unfortunately Donald Trump has taken multiple contradictory positions on virtually every issue so both stories can be true.

Gonna be a long 4 years and I suspect after about 2 Trump will have decided that he doesn't want a second term.

At the last second I scribbled in Trump's oval because the thought of President Hillary Clinton was a lot worse than the thought of President Trump.
All I expect him to do is enforce the laws and try to dismantle Obama care and virtually all of Obama's unconstitutional diktats.
But I get the feeling his ardent supporters are expecting a lot more. He is now dialing back his promise to repeal Obamacare. IIRC, he uttered the word "repeal" a number of times during the campaign. I didn't hear him say the word "alter" at any time.
But we'll give His Orangeness a chance and see if he can to the positive things he promised (immigration and Obamacare) and be talked out of the negative things he espouses on trade and jobs.

[HootOwl]

He shouldn't fully repeal it IMO. He should replace the most egrecious pieces with something better.


Millions of people depend on the program, they shouldn't be kicked off.


There are market based solutions to meet the two "sides" half way.

Never ever meet those disgusting DEMs half way.  We learned that long ago.  First, the name of it is a LIE.  If that amended bill hangs around it will be tinkered with and interrupted however the liberals want . ACA is not affordable.  wipe it all out and start over or we will be very sorry.  I don't think even Jeb would be that stupid.

[roamer_1]

He shouldn't fully repeal it IMO. He should replace the most egrecious pieces with something better.
millions of people depend on the program, they shouldn't be kicked off.
There are market based solutions to meet the two "sides" half way.

That is eminently untrue. There is no 'halfway' to socialism. Admitting the federal government has the authority to do this at all, and you are just haggling over the price - which argument you will always lose.

[geronl]

I heard some of his speech on the radio and it sounds to me like he is going to chase after another BHO type stimulus in the name of fixing our "infrastructure."

ha, he thinks BHO's stimulus (slush fund) was way, way too small.

[ConstitutionRose]

Unfortunately Donald Trump has taken multiple contradictory positions on virtually every issue so both stories can be true.

Gonna be a long 4 years and I suspect after about 2 Trump will have decided that he doesn't want a second term.

Too true.

As to the ACA, I was really hoping Trump meant what he said.  Before the ACA, we had good insurance we could afford and we were able to provide proper health care for my husband.  Since the ACA, not so.  I'm thinking if we close down our business and go on the dole, we'd have a better chance.   

Many issues with the healthcare system are related to lack of competition, lack of transparency, over regulation and the current state of litigation.  The ACA did NOTHING to address these issues.  You are not going to address those issues by tweaking the current law either.  The ACA is a nanny state wet dream and it's just as screwed up as any thinking person would expect it to be.

[RoosGirl]

I am going to get so bored with saying "Told You So" for the next four years

To paraphrase.....We'll be saying "I told you so" so much, you'll get tired of saying "I told you so"!

[XenaLee]

And this is what is concerning.

In order to keep the "Reagan Democrats" "working man" whatever one wants to call them, I hope that doesn't mean we are going to see an expansion of government and new programs. I heard some of his speech on the radio and it sounds to me like he is going to chase after another BHO type stimulus in the name of fixing our "infrastructure."

Those of us who favor limited government and fiscal sanity may be homeless for a while although keeping my fingers crossed that the Republicans in Congress hold the line on Trump's spending desires

They didn't for Obama.  Why would they for Trump?

[XenaLee]

Too true.

As to the ACA, I was really hoping Trump meant what he said.  Before the ACA, we had good insurance we could afford and we were able to provide proper health care for my husband.  Since the ACA, not so.  I'm thinking if we close down our business and go on the dole, we'd have a better chance.   

Many issues with the healthcare system are related to lack of competition, lack of transparency, over regulation and the current state of litigation.  The ACA did NOTHING to address these issues.  You are not going to address those issues by tweaking the current law either.  The ACS is a nanny state wet dream and it's just as screwed up as any thinking person would expect it to be.

The very fact that the elitists in Congress exempted themselves (and their staff) due to "unaffordability" shows just how little they care about We, the People , the middle class taxpayers that can ill afford it either, that pay their salaries with our taxes.  Repeal the damned thing in its entirety and replace it with private healthcare that has interstate portability.  Anything else is a continued and ongoing slap in our faces.....

not to mention another broken campaign promise.

[DCPatriot]

The very fact that the elitists in Congress exempted themselves (and their staff) due to "unaffordability" shows just how little they care about We, the People , the middle class taxpayers that can ill afford it either, that pay their salaries with our taxes.  Repeal the damned thing in its entirety and replace it with private healthcare that has interstate portability.  Anything else is a continued and ongoing slap in our faces.....

not to mention another broken campaign promise.

Trump should immediately, on Day 1 cancel every Congressman and Senator's health care plan and force them into the Affordable Care Act umbrella.

It would take less than 60 days for them to come up with a sound alternative.


....which is allowing companies to cross State lines to sell their policies.

[DB]

The very fact that the elitists in Congress exempted themselves (and their staff) due to "unaffordability" shows just how little they care about We, the People , the middle class taxpayers that can ill afford it either, that pay their salaries with our taxes.  Repeal the damned thing in its entirety and replace it with private healthcare that has interstate portability.  Anything else is a continued and ongoing slap in our faces.....

not to mention another broken campaign promise.

I really doubt the genie can be put back into the bottle. Millions now receive "free" stuff and they won't easily give it up and we'll be told how unfair it is if it is taken away... That's why it was so important to take a stand before it went into affect - remember that government shut down?

Trump has already said his version is going to require coverage of preexisting conditions and therefore "buying" insurance will have to be mandatory as a result. Otherwise no one would buy "insurance" until after they need it, because they have to take you after the fact. Note that that isn't insurance it all.

And never mind that constitution explicitly states what is in the federal government's domain and everything else is left to the states. Federally controlled one size fits all health care isn't there but big government Republicans don't care.

[DB]

....which is allowing companies to cross State lines to sell their policies.

No, it is getting the federal government out of health care period. Different flavors of federal government meddling isn't the answer.

[Norm Lenhart]

Trump should immediately, on Day 1 cancel every Congressman and Senator's health care plan and force them into the Affordable Care Act umbrella.

It would take less than 60 days for them to come up with a sound alternative.


....which is allowing companies to cross State lines to sell their policies.

I think that would go a LONG way to establishing trust in him. At the very least, if he can't find the authority to do it, then harp on it mercilessly and shame them into it. Ultimately we have Obamacare because of Congress, not Obama.

[txradioguy]

Trump should immediately, on Day 1 cancel every Congressman and Senator's health care plan and force them into the Affordable Care Act umbrella.

It would take less than 60 days for them to come up with a sound alternative.

Hate to break it to you but he's not going to do that.

He's in love with single payer.  He doesn't think Obamacare went far enough.

[Suppressed]

I heard some of his speech on the radio and it sounds to me like he is going to chase after another BHO type stimulus in the name of fixing our "infrastructure."

and I heard Rush Limbaugh rationalizing it.

[Chosen Daughter]

Unfortunately Donald Trump has taken multiple contradictory positions on virtually every issue so both stories can be true.

Gonna be a long 4 years and I suspect after about 2 Trump will have decided that he doesn't want a second term.

Yep no way to know until it happens or doesn't.  Obama care is too expensive.  People can't afford it.  The deductibles are too high.  You might as well pay for the procedure yourself.  It is high price insurance for a major medical sickness.  That is the only time it pays if you are healthy.

[Fantom]

We can build an "I TOLD YOU SO!!" sandbox.   In their own special category.

 

Well done .... Pocket Pool.....

 I will say...so far, The Orange one is doing well.

As to where this goes.... We'll see.

[GrouchoTex]

I don't mind him looking at all options. Getting rid of that beast of a bit of law was never going to be easy. Just wish he'd shut up until he actually decides what he wants, instead of telling different audiences different and contradictory things.

Yes, that would be nice!
I don't mind arguing for or against some thing, but it would be helpful to know what "something" actually is.

[ConstitutionRose]

Yep no way to know until it happens or doesn't.  Obama care is too expensive.  People can't afford it.  The deductibles are too high.  You might as well pay for the procedure yourself.  It is high price insurance for a major medical sickness.  That is the only time it pays if you are healthy.

There is all this talk that Trump tapped into the anger many voters have been feeling on issues such as Obamacare, immigration, 95 million unemployed,  terrorism threats, Supreme Court nominee. etc.  Does he realize  those voters expect him to take action, not just yell slogans or read from lists. If he fails to repeal the ACA, that will be one very big black mark on his record and shake the trust of a lot of people.  He may find that anger directed at him.

[geronl]

Well done .... Pocket Pool.....

 I will say...so far, The Orange one is doing well.

As to where this goes.... We'll see.

It sure didn't take long for them to start talking about shunting the dissenters to a special sandbox, hey why not just ban them outright...