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Democratic Party in crisis
« on: November 09, 2016, 11:58:41 pm »

Democratic Party in crisis

‘It could get worse before it gets better,’ says one senior Dem aide.

By Gabriel Debenedetti

11/09/16 02:39 PM EST


NEW YORK — Democrats awoke Wednesday facing something they had worked hard to convince themselves was a problem exclusively of the right: a party in crisis.

Swept dramatically from power as Republicans assumed control of the White House, Senate, and House of Representatives and stood poised to make Supreme Court appointments that will dictate the direction of the Judiciary for a generation, the Democratic Party is only beginning to grapple with enormous questions – everything from who will lead to what the party will stand for.

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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2016, 12:00:51 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on November 09, 2016, 11:58:41 pm
Democratic Party in crisis

‘It could get worse before it gets better,’ says one senior Dem aide.

Lies. Carvelle assured America the dems would be in power for 40 years. There's 32 left to go so this is just fearmongering.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2016, 12:01:30 am »
It is going to get a whole lot worse. The leaked emails exposed to the kool aid drinkers that they are participating in a rigged system. They also do not have a very deep bench of up and coming Rats on the horizon because of all the loses they experienced the last couple cycles. They have no one to rally around.
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2016, 12:02:49 am »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on November 10, 2016, 12:00:51 am
Lies. Carvelle assured America the dems would be in power for 40 years. There's 32 left to go so this is just fearmongering.

Thinking about sending one of these to Jimmy so he can sign it for me....

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2016, 12:04:11 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on November 10, 2016, 12:02:49 am
Thinking about sending one of these to Jimmy so he can sign it for me....



Its sad. He's a smart guy but a horrible liar.
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2016, 12:05:41 am »
I think I'm gonna need a bigger bag of popcorn...  :pop41:
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2016, 12:08:00 am »

Every picture tells a story.
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2016, 12:19:28 am »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on November 10, 2016, 12:08:00 am

Every picture tells a story.

 :silly: :silly:  Bill is almost in tears because he realizes she's going to be around a whole lot more and she's going to be riding her broom for quite awhile after this.  Hillary is obviously ticked off and Kaine looks like he's about as enthusiastic about the future as someone who was just sentenced to life in prison.
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2016, 12:23:47 am »
Quote from: libertybele on November 10, 2016, 12:19:28 am
:silly: :silly:  Bill is almost in tears because he realizes she's going to be around a whole lot more and she's going to be riding her broom for quite awhile after this.  Hillary is obviously ticked off and Kaine looks like he's about as enthusiastic about the future as someone who was just sentenced to life in prison.

the story I see is Bill trying hard not to bust out laughing because aft erall these years he got his revenge. TK is thinkng 'Soon I can GTH away from this witch, and the witch is pissed at the Devil because he shorted her on the deal.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2016, 12:26:33 am »
   obummer, being an Equal Opportunity Destroyer has done as much damage to his own party as we seem to have allowed him to completely neuter ours.
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2016, 12:48:26 am »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on November 10, 2016, 12:08:00 am

Every picture tells a story.

Tim Kaine has the look of a man who has just realized his entire political future has gone up in smoke.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2016, 12:52:57 am »
Quote from: libertybele on November 10, 2016, 12:19:28 am
:silly: :silly:  Bill is almost in tears because he realizes she's going to be around a whole lot more and she's going to be riding her broom for quite awhile after this.  Hillary is obviously ticked off and Kaine looks like he's about as enthusiastic about the future as someone who was just sentenced to life in prison.
I don't know. Bill just realized that he can start dating again. He's biting his lip to keep from smiling.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2016, 12:54:25 am »
I read an article earlier; that having a party among whose priorities were "bathroom bills" didn't go over with the blue collar working class; that and of course, Obamacare.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2016, 12:54:33 am »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on November 10, 2016, 12:52:57 am
I don't know. Bill just realized that he can start dating again. He's biting his lip to keep from smiling.
He doesn't have to live in the White House. He can go back to Chappaqua and his girlfriend, the "Energizer Bunny."
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2016, 01:26:54 am »
Like Sauron after the Last Alliance at the battle of Mount Doom - evil always finds a way to come back.
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2016, 02:54:35 am »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on November 10, 2016, 12:23:47 am
the story I see is Bill trying hard not to bust out laughing because aft erall these years he got his revenge.

That's exactly what I saw.  The contrived lip-biting...the whole Slick Willie routine.  There were some of the feminist types who claimed that it was Hillary who carried Bill all along.  Turned out, he could close a deal, and she couldn't.  Must make the old lecher even more smug than usual.

Seriously wonder for how long they'll stay married.  What's the point?
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2016, 03:02:11 am »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on November 10, 2016, 12:52:57 am
I don't know. Bill just realized that he can start dating again. He's biting his lip to keep from smiling.

Good one.   ^-^
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2016, 03:06:04 am »
Had it been a more likable person than Hillary, Trump would have lost.  One of the reasons that Bill and Obama won cause they where likable. She came across as cold and uncaring person.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2016, 03:06:05 am »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on November 10, 2016, 12:08:00 am

Every picture tells a story.

The only person happier than Trump this morning was Bill.  Obama was happy too, because now the Obamas are the First Family of the Democratic Party.

Expect Barack to return to the Senate in 2018, maybe even as Majority Leader,  and Democrats want Michelle to run for POTUS.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2016, 03:24:01 am »
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The only person happier than Trump this morning was Bill.  Obama was happy too, because now the Obamas are the First Family of the Democratic Party.

Expect Barack to return to the Senate in 2018, maybe even as Majority Leader,  and Democrats want Michelle to run for POTUS.

Unless we lose the Senate in 2018, he can't be Majority Leader. He would have to win the Senate race first and then be nominated as the Minority Leader to replace Reid.
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2016, 03:40:08 am »
Quote from: libertybele on November 10, 2016, 03:24:01 am
Unless we lose the Senate in 2018, he can't be Majority Leader. He would have to win the Senate race first and then be nominated as the Minority Leader to replace Reid.

I think they'll make the deal for Reid to step down and have Obama replace him.  I looked at the Senate seats up in 2018, the most logical place for him to run is in Maryland.   So if he moves there after he's done as POTUS, you'll know that's his plan.
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2016, 05:26:04 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on November 10, 2016, 12:01:30 am
It is going to get a whole lot worse. The leaked emails exposed to the kool aid drinkers that they are participating in a rigged system. They also do not have a very deep bench of up and coming Rats on the horizon because of all the loses they experienced the last couple cycles. They have no one to rally around.

In 1960 moderate Nixon lost a very close election against moderate JFK.  It produced a stimulus for the GOP to soul search and push for a candidate that could differentiate the GOP from the rats.  The product of that soul searching was Barry Goldwater and the product of Barry Goldwater was a rat president and super majority in both houses of congress and eventually "The Great Society."

The rats are going to soul search how they got this election so wrong.  They could over react and pick a more fringe socialist than Bernie as their 2020 candidate, or go the opposite way and move to take the mantle as the pro-business free trade party because there is a vacuum in the GOP on those issues.
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2016, 05:37:39 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on November 10, 2016, 12:02:49 am
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I recall how after the 2004 election many people at TOS were crowing about "the end of the Dems for decades".
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2016, 05:44:18 am »
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I recall how after the 2004 election many people at TOS were crowing about "the end of the Dems for decades".
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Well after 8 years of Obama, it will be at least a decade. If you haven't noticed that every election since '08 has destroyed the Rats on all levels. We may lose the WH but the damage done to their state parties is unbelievable. You do realize they have absolutely no one to lead them after Obama is gone. Their bench of up and comers is empty because the few they had were kicked out of office. They are royally screwed.
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2016, 07:58:35 am »
Well - they have Fauxahontas. And, for the policy geeks on their side, one of the Castro boys (Julian?). Though the thought of someone called Castro being President is kind of laughable.

But, that's it. The Worm said Michelle Obama has no interest in running, and it's one of the very few things he's said off the cuff that I believe. She's not much one for showing her working publicly.
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