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here is the quote, sounds pretty pro-hillary to me

McMullin: What we’re trying to do is earn enough electoral votes is to block Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump… If nat they then we will be happy to have....

1). The bolded ellipses is confusing.  Without seeing what language was removed, it is difficult to attach a reliable interpretation to the statement.

2). "if nat they then" is absolute gibberish, and suggests that whomever wrote this does not much care about accuracy.

Maybe the guy really did say that he'd prefer Hillary to Trump.  But i honestly can't tell that for sure from that statement.
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Admit it you're really an anarchist.  You just like wrecking anything or anyone that just might make things better for the folks.
Yes you are you are electing Hillary.

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Please point out the portion of our constitution that says we have a two party system.

And thats where the entire lesser evil thing and every  argument derived from it falls apart. We don't and never had a 2 party system mandated. We did that to ourselves and can just as readily undo that from ourselves.

It's simply a matter of will. And most people 'will' chose complacency over their own stated beliefs. They prove it every 3+ years beating their chests about changing things and the last 6 months making excuses why they can't be changed 'this time'. Only 'next time.

When the process repeats all over in perpetuity.
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Our Founders warned us about the dangers of Party and of faction - see The Federalist #10. James Madison in particular was both prescient and correct.

Great dangers arise when the people of a nation place their chief loyalty in political factions rather than in shared foundational principles.
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I agree Norm.

To me, it is very sad.  I see it from supposed and alleged conservatives.  I see it from Christians.  This willing acceptance and this self defeatism to say, "Oh well, it's a two party system.  It's a binary election, so pick Donald or Hillary."

There's some truth to it as a matter of fact and a matter of what's going to happen.  Barring a miracle, Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton will be our next president.

But indeed our founding fathers never set up a "two party system".  God never set up a "two party system" in this country.  And it's quite odd that so many of the people who complain about the "uniparty" continue without fail to vote for someone who runs under that uniparty banner.  At this point I guess we can say they're not even consistent within themselves.

We had an extraordinary opportunity this election, and we actually still do.  We had an opportunity to nominate and elect a conservative.  We didn't do that.  But then afterward, we had, and still have, the opportunity to recognize that America hates both of these candidates and make a determination to use that to do better and go outside of both parties and elect someone better for America.  We've lost not only our principles but our courage.  The only thing I can hope for or look to is utilizing this election to build something better going forward.

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Our Founders warned us about the dangers of Party and of faction - see The Federalist #10. James Madison in particular was both prescient and correct.

Great dangers arise when the people of a nation place their chief loyalty in political factions rather than in shared foundational principles.
That point of historical fact seems to be met most often by party hacks forwarding the excuse that "Today it's different!"

I am always in awe of how many internet experts on politics were so much wiser on these matters than the people that actually designed the political system.

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I agree Norm.

To me, it is very sad.  I see it from supposed and alleged conservatives.  I see it from Christians.  This willing acceptance and this self defeatism to say, "Oh well, it's a two party system.  It's a binary election, so pick Donald or Hillary."

There's some truth to it as a matter of fact and a matter of what's going to happen.  Barring a miracle, Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton will be our next president.

But indeed our founding fathers never set up a "two party system".  God never set up a "two party system" in this country.  And it's quite odd that so many of the people who complain about the "uniparty" continue without fail to vote for someone who runs under that uniparty banner.  At this point I guess we can say they're not even consistent within themselves.

We had an extraordinary opportunity this election, and we actually still do.  We had an opportunity to nominate and elect a conservative.  We didn't do that.  But then afterward, we had, and still have, the opportunity to recognize that America hates both of these candidates and make a determination to use that to do better and go outside of both parties and elect someone better for America.  We've lost not only our principles but our courage.  The only thing I can hope for or look to is utilizing this election to build something better going forward.

There's some truth because people make it a self fulfilling prophecy. So many people complicate the whole thing but it's really very basic. If you believe in a thing, you support that thing. The only thing standing in the way of that is the person themselves.

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On behalf of Trump SUPPORTERS, I'd like to extend my heartfelt sorrow that Ted Cruz LOST THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY CONTEST.

Now can we get onto the business of electing a true leader for America's future and not a corrupt progressive?

Your children will thank you for reconsidering your position on this election.

You and his FOLLOWERS not able to recognize that Trump is a progressive is the problem.
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/snicker

Trump supporters.

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Do note, it is the pro-Trump Gateway blogger that said McMullin is pro-Hillary, and has nothing to do with what Evan said. Same way we #never trumps are accused of being Hillary supporters.

Fringe sites are notorious for titles that don't match the tex or the incidents described in the text.  They hold themselves out as news when actually they are opinions or interpretations.  I guess they hope most people will just read the title and not look at the rest. 

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This is bad, why?

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This is bad, why?

Because it thwarts the divine ascension of His High Holy Majesty, and Divine Lord, Trump.




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Morning mystery-ak.  When I read the opening thread I thought to myself oh no.  I didn't want McMullin to be in it to sway the vote to Hillary.  I am never either.  I have always found your posts to be honest and appreciate them.  But the opening post isn't honest.  Of course he isn't going to win and he knows it.  I think he said he is in it to prevent them both from outright winning.  He is not in the Clinton camp.

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Now I have to go home and take a shower.

I heard him comparing himself to Jesus in a rally video

The Bible says there are many antichrists.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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So they, instead of attacking Hillary, attack us.



Please provide a link showing the time you attacked Hillary and not Trump supporters.

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I heard him comparing himself to Jesus in a rally video


Please provide a link to this.

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This is bad, why?

Well.. for starters rational people understand President Hillary Clinton is the worst thing that can happen to our sovereignty, economy, Federal/Supreme Courts, the rule of law, our military and our unborn.   

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No we support this and if you were a conservative you would too.

Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:

...


What Trump proposes may sound good. The problem, for me at least, is that I can't trust him to keep any of his promises. 

Also, unless he plans to become dictator for life, Trump will need Congress to go along with most of these matters. Not sure how Trump will he able to move that bunch of lazy butts to do anything unless whatever it is benefits them.  And there is a real danger the Republicans will lose their majority in both Houses of Congress.  Good luck getting a Democrat-controlled Congress on board.

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Now can we get onto the business of electing a true leader for America's future and not a corrupt progressive?

I agree.  I intend to vote for McMullin!
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I agree.  I intend to vote for McMullin!

Unborn babies weep.

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Unborn babies weep.

And with Trump funding Planned Parenthood, they will remain unborn for the most part. Still weeping though.

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Unborn babies weep.

Not if conservatives can live to fight another day.  I can think of no greater gesture for the unborn (or the Constitution, if that's more your thing),  than to separate the conservative brand from the dead-end racialism of the alt right.  A vote for McMullin does that.   

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Well.. for starters rational people understand President Hillary Clinton is the worst thing that can happen to our sovereignty, economy, Federal/Supreme Courts, the rule of law, our military and our unborn.

Everything you posted is a falsehood.