Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness

[DB]

Well IMHO you have not explained how "we" can survive Hillary, everything I outlined above happens in Hillarys' first term. She has promised to deliver on all in her first 100 days. Forget living to fight another day, the battle is right now, and to quote Romsfield "you go to war with the army you have". For better or worse either we win in 2016 or we are vanquished forever. Win today and we get to fight again in 2020, lose today and we (American conservatives) are on "the ash heap of history".

The globalists (uniparty) understand this which is why they (uniparty) are in all out attack mode, the likes of which no one has ever seen before.  Big business, big media, big government (Ra and Ds)  all united and determined to destroy the nationalist Trump. Let Hillary win and Texas will be voting democrat (socialist) no later than 2024.

Here's reality. When Trump was nominated it became hugely likely Hillary would become the next president short of a major meltdown on her part. It is too late now to change that. It's a done deal. We told you that Trump was a New York liberal with mountains of baggage covering decades and that after he was nominated the MSM would unload it all - but only after he was nominated. And that is exactly what is happening. You are tilting at windmills now. The time to act was before he was nominated if you really wanted to stop Hillary.

The only thing left to do now is support Republicans down ticket if you want to try to stop her agenda. That is what all of us "never Trump" here are going to do because that is all we can do to minimize the damage of this election. Trump has burned his bridges, there's no going back.

If you want to make a difference, go persuade your "only Trump" fans to vote Republican down ticket unlike what many of them are threatening to do. If you give her the house and/or the senate the damage is going to be far worse.

The balls in your court.

[DB]

And who are you voting for?

You keep asking... I don't know who I'm going to vote for. Many here are in the same boat. I do know who I'm not going to vote for and that is the heads of the two major parties. This election is over as far as any meaningful vote goes. Trump has burned many of his bridges, and continues to do so. He spends as much time attacking other Republicans as he does the other party. Stupid on steroids. Hillary will win short of a major meltdown or stroke no matter how you vote. It didn't have to be this way. Choices have consequences and now you're boxed in with nowhere to go but a major loss.

There is really no point in continuing the back and forth. You've set your course and now you are going to ride it to its logical conclusion.

[Hoodat]

Please explain to me how "we" (Conservatives) are going to "come back" from Hillarys' promised amnesty of tens of millions of new Marxist voters?

Maybe you should have thought of that before nominating a liberal Democrat as your candidate.

[jpsb]

Here's reality. When Trump was nominated it became hugely likely Hillary would become the next president short of a major meltdown on her part. It is too late now to change that. It's a done deal. We told you that Trump was a New York liberal with mountains of baggage covering decades and that after he was nominated the MSM would unload it all - but only after he was nominated. And that is exactly what is happening. You are tilting at windmills now. The time to act was before he was nominated if you really wanted to stop Hillary.

The only thing left to do now is support Republicans down ticket if you want to try to stop her agenda. That is what all of us "never Trump" here are going to do because that is all we can do to minimize the damage of this election. Trump has burned his bridges, there's no going back.

If you want to make a difference, go persuade your "only Trump" fans to vote Republican down ticket unlike what many of them are threatening to do. If you give her the house and/or the senate the damage is going to be far worse.

The balls in your court.

And you don't think more then a few GOPe republicans are fine with Hillary agenda? This is not a liberal vrs conservative election and hasn't been for some time now. This is a battle between nationalists and globalists. Until you understand that you will be unable to do anything useful as an American patriot, of which, I have no doubt you are.

[jpsb]

Maybe you should have thought of that before nominating a liberal Democrat as your candidate.

Maybe you should think about that before helping Hillary get elected.

[DB]

Maybe you should think about that before helping Hillary get elected.

All the "help" came from the Trump supporters that got him nominated. The person both Hillary and the MSM wanted to have run against her. They played you like a fiddle and your still dancing to their tune... When you wake up give us a ring... Otherwise please don't, you are everything you say you hate.

[Hoodat]

Maybe you should think about that before helping Hillary get elected.

I'm not helping Hillary get elected. 
I'm not the one here supporting the only GOP candidate she can beat. 
I'm not the one here supporting a liberal.
I'm not the one here propping up a candidate who holds the Bill of Rights in contempt.
I'm not the one here voting for the guy who says that Hillary is right.

[DB]

And you don't think more then a few GOPe republicans are fine with Hillary agenda? This is not a liberal vrs conservative election and hasn't been for some time now. This is a battle between nationalists and globalists. Until you understand that you will be unable to do anything useful as an American patriot, of which, I have no doubt you are.

So in other words, you aren't going to actually try to stop Hillary's agenda. So first you play a part getting her elected by pushing the one candidate she could beat and then to top it off, you won't support Republicans down ticket. You know, that latter part makes you a hypocrite of the first order.

And you still can't figure out how we got here...

You are not a serious person and therefore a waste of my time. I'll try not to repeat my mistakes.

[endicom]

You keep asking... I don't know who I'm going to vote for.

Castle? Johnson?

[jpsb]

So in other words, you aren't going to actually try to stop Hillary's agenda. So first you play a part getting her elected by pushing the one candidate she could beat and then to top it off, you won't support Republicans down ticket. You know, that latter part makes you a hypocrite of the first order.

And you still can't figure out how we got here...

You are not a serious person and therefore a waste of my time. I'll try not to repeat my mistakes.

If you deny the existence of the "uniparty" and it's globalist agenda then it is you that has the "not a serious person" problem.

[endicom]

Here's reality.

Here's reality: it will be Trump or it will be Hillary.

[Hoodat]

This is not a liberal vrs conservative election and hasn't been for some time now. This is a battle between nationalists and globalists.

Here's the side you are on:

My concern is that the negligence of a few will adversely affect the majority. I've long been a believer in the "look at the solution, not the problem" theory. In this case, the solution is clear. We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability.

Donald Trump, 2013

[Hoodat]

Here's reality: it will be Trump or it will be Hillary.

Here's reality:  It will be a liberal from New York.

[DB]

Here's reality: it will be Trump or it will be Hillary.

Only if Hillary strokes out or some other serious meltdown. Otherwise you have assured her victory - that is the hard cold reality of it.

[jpsb]

Here's the side you are on:

My concern is that the negligence of a few will adversely affect the majority. I've long been a believer in the "look at the solution, not the problem" theory. In this case, the solution is clear. We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability.

Donald Trump, 2013

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Dude it is almost 2017

Trump on immigration

1. Begin working on an impenetrable physical wall on the southern border, on day one. Mexico will pay for the wall.

2. End catch-and-release. Under a Trump administration, anyone who illegally crosses the border will be detained until they are removed out of our country.

3. Move criminal aliens out day one, in joint operations with local, state, and federal law enforcement. We will terminate the Obama administration’s deadly, non-enforcement policies that allow thousands of criminal aliens to freely roam our streets.

4. End sanctuary cities.

5. Immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties. All immigration laws will be enforced - we will triple the number of ICE agents. Anyone who enters the U.S. illegally is subject to deportation. That is what it means to have laws and to have a country.

6. Suspend the issuance of visas to any place where adequate screening cannot occur, until proven and effective vetting mechanisms can be put into place.

7. Ensure that other countries take their people back when we order them deported.

8. Ensure that a biometric entry-exit visa tracking system is fully implemented at all land, air, and sea ports.

9. Turn off the jobs and benefits magnet. Many immigrants come to the U.S. illegally in search of jobs, even though federal law prohibits the employment of illegal immigrants.

10. Reform legal immigration to serve the best interests of America and its workers, keeping immigration levels within historic norms.

[DB]

Here's the side you are on:

My concern is that the negligence of a few will adversely affect the majority. I've long been a believer in the "look at the solution, not the problem" theory. In this case, the solution is clear. We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability.

Donald Trump, 2013

That's old news or something... It is mind boggling what these people ignore with it in their face.

[Hoodat]

If you deny the existence of the "uniparty" and it's globalist agenda then it is you that has the "not a serious person" problem.

Donald Trump has supported the uniparty his entire business career.  He openly admits it.  And now that he had a chance to shape the rules of the GOP for the next four years, he has done nothing but strengthen that uniparty hold by strengthening the power of the GOP Establishment over the Conservative grass roots.

[jpsb]

Here's reality:  It will be a liberal from New York.

Hillary is not "from" New York. Does she own a home there yes, is she from there no. Trump on the other hand is a real New Yorker.

[Hoodat]

That's old news or something... It is mind boggling what these people ignore with it in their face.

Trump talks a strong game at the same time he outsources his own manufacturing to Mexico and China.

[Hoodat]

Hillary is not "from" New York. Does she own a home there yes, is she from there no. Trump on the other hand is a real New Yorker.

I stand corrected.  It will be a liberal who owns a home in New York.

[DB]

Here's the side you are on:

My concern is that the negligence of a few will adversely affect the majority. I've long been a believer in the "look at the solution, not the problem" theory. In this case, the solution is clear. We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability.

Donald Trump, 2013

Hey, I scored. Old news it is... When someone wants to believe something, there's no room for reality. It also amazes me that they post Trump's words with total confidence they mean something, as some sort of hard evidence of something - but only in the latest utterance. Old news is summarily dismissed as if it was never spoken.

[jpsb]

That's old news or something... It is mind boggling what these people ignore with it in their face.

Trump on immigration

1. Begin working on an impenetrable physical wall on the southern border, on day one. Mexico will pay for the wall.

2. End catch-and-release. Under a Trump administration, anyone who illegally crosses the border will be detained until they are removed out of our country.

3. Move criminal aliens out day one, in joint operations with local, state, and federal law enforcement. We will terminate the Obama administration’s deadly, non-enforcement policies that allow thousands of criminal aliens to freely roam our streets.

4. End sanctuary cities.

5. Immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties. All immigration laws will be enforced - we will triple the number of ICE agents. Anyone who enters the U.S. illegally is subject to deportation. That is what it means to have laws and to have a country.

6. Suspend the issuance of visas to any place where adequate screening cannot occur, until proven and effective vetting mechanisms can be put into place.

7. Ensure that other countries take their people back when we order them deported.

8. Ensure that a biometric entry-exit visa tracking system is fully implemented at all land, air, and sea ports.

9. Turn off the jobs and benefits magnet. Many immigrants come to the U.S. illegally in search of jobs, even though federal law prohibits the employment of illegal immigrants.

10. Reform legal immigration to serve the best interests of America and its workers, keeping immigration levels within historic norms.

Hillary on immigration

We need comprehensive immigration reform with a path to full and equal citizenship. If Congress won't act, I'll defend President Obama’s executive actions—and I'll go even further to keep families together. I'll end family detention, close private immigrant detention centers, and help more eligible people become naturalized.

Hillary also will increase importation of Islamic "refugees" by at least 550%

[jpsb]

Hey, I scored. Old news it is... When someone wants to believe something, there's no room for reality. It also amazes me that they post Trump's words with total confidence they mean something, as some sort of hard evidence of something - but only in the latest utterance. Old news is summarily dismissed as if it was never spoken.

I am quite certain Hillary means what she says. So I'll take my chances with Trump.

[Hoodat]

Old news is summarily dismissed as if it was never spoken.

George Orwell wrote a book about it.

[endicom]

I stand corrected.  It will be a liberal who owns a home in New York.

Queens was not that Liberal in his time.