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Offline Formerly Once-Ler

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #175 on: October 18, 2016, 10:20:56 am »

Here's reality: it will be Trump or it will be Hillary.

Here's reality: it will be Hillary.  It will be Hillary by such a wide margin she will claim she has a mandate.  If the GOP also loses the Senate and House, next year's GOP will support amnesty to wash the stain of Trump off.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #176 on: October 18, 2016, 10:41:15 am »
Maybe you should think about that before helping Hillary get elected.

You got Hillary elected, not the people who warned you that Trump could not possibly win.  The fact of the matter is, Trump has alienated most women, most Hispanics, most etc, etc, and therefore the fact that he has alienated so many of us republicans as well isn't going to change the fact that he will lose.

You and your Trumpist fellow travelers, AND YOU ALONE, guaranteed Clinton's victory.  Now STFU and help us contain the damage YOU did by voting for real republicans down ticket. 

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #177 on: October 18, 2016, 10:45:02 am »

Ah, so every demand can be made of Trump voters and none of NeverTrumps. Trump voters can be cursed, lied about and called alt-right. NeverTrumps? Well, they get to hide behind the veil.

Trumpists should be cursed and reviled because they acted out of spite, fear, hatred and envy (most of the seven deadly sins) and ignored clear warnings about Trump.  Because they nominated a NYC big government liberal who, to boot, is now beginning to spout alt-right antisemitism. 

You people disgust me, and if you bothered to look in the mirror or exercise one iota of self-awareness you'd disgust yourself. 

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #178 on: October 18, 2016, 10:47:17 am »

Here's reality: it will be Trump or it will be Hillary.

Here's the reality: because of the bleep, it will be Clinton.  If every single bleep had disappeared from the face of the Earth in January, Clinton would have already lost.

You and your fellow Trumpists are solely responsible for Clinton's win. 

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #179 on: October 18, 2016, 11:06:21 am »
Eric Metaxas is right, millions have fought for our freedoms,

A Clinton Administration would destroy rights, freedom of religion and so on.

But if folks want to just think of themselves, so be it.

Trump has no blood on his hands, the Clintons and the Obamas do.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #180 on: October 18, 2016, 11:18:28 am »
Trumpists should be cursed and reviled because they acted out of spite, fear, hatred and envy (most of the seven deadly sins) and ignored clear warnings about Trump.  Because they nominated a NYC big government liberal who, to boot, is now beginning to spout alt-right antisemitism. 

You people disgust me, and if you bothered to look in the mirror or exercise one iota of self-awareness you'd disgust yourself.

Seek help.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #181 on: October 18, 2016, 12:08:46 pm »
Seek help.
Oceander, I got your back buddy...looks to me like you don't really need any help with this putz, but let me know.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #182 on: October 18, 2016, 12:16:02 pm »
Trumpists should be cursed and reviled because they acted out of spite, fear, hatred and envy (most of the seven deadly sins) and ignored clear warnings about Trump.  Because they nominated a NYC big government liberal who, to boot, is now beginning to spout alt-right antisemitism. 

You people disgust me, and if you bothered to look in the mirror or exercise one iota of self-awareness you'd disgust yourself.
You left out lust. They wanted a "hot" first lady.
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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #183 on: October 18, 2016, 12:24:42 pm »
Eric Metaxas is right, millions have fought for our freedoms,

A Clinton Administration would destroy rights, freedom of religion and so on.

But if folks want to just think of themselves, so be it.

Trump has no blood on his hands, the Clintons and the Obamas do.
Here is reality. No one can take your freedom unless you surrender, unless you submit.
You are as free as you dare to be, insofar as you have the courage to be defiant.
That isn't saying there will not be a cost, there always is, and someone pays it, whether it is the soldier who defends it in wartime, or the civilian who has the guts to ignore unjust laws, someone pays the price.
Sometimes the price is cheap, going to a hearing here, a meeting there, and standing up and saying 'no'. Sometimes the price is much higher. If people don't care about their freedom enough to do the former, the price goes up. The longer you wait, the more it costs.
But the decisions can't be made just on emotion, and while one side is cool and calculating (despite using emotional appeals in their ads), the other is just running on angry.
Sometimes the price of freedom is just a matter of doing a little due diligence, a little research, and sorting out who is what. Unfortunately, that was not done at the start of this electoral fiasco, and now the price goes up.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #184 on: October 18, 2016, 01:05:16 pm »
Here is reality. No one can take your freedom unless you surrender, unless you submit.
You are as free as you dare to be, insofar as you have the courage to be defiant.
That isn't saying there will not be a cost, there always is, and someone pays it, whether it is the soldier who defends it in wartime, or the civilian who has the guts to ignore unjust laws, someone pays the price.
Sometimes the price is cheap, going to a hearing here, a meeting there, and standing up and saying 'no'. Sometimes the price is much higher. If people don't care about their freedom enough to do the former, the price goes up. The longer you wait, the more it costs.
But the decisions can't be made just on emotion, and while one side is cool and calculating (despite using emotional appeals in their ads), the other is just running on angry.
Sometimes the price of freedom is just a matter of doing a little due diligence, a little research, and sorting out who is what. Unfortunately, that was not done at the start of this electoral fiasco, and now the price goes up.

There's an elephant in the room that most of these Trumpists would rather no one notice.

I noticed a long time ago that most, though not all, of the loudest people for Romney were pretty quiet as  'conservatives' on existential things until they got a liberal into a position of potential power, Suddenly, as if by magic, they became full throated right wing battering rams for patriotism, freedom, the 'Murcian way and prophets of the end times, should all who have ears to hear not immeadiately and without thought, jump on board.

Never let a good crisis go to waste. I heard that somewhere.

What do we see with Trump? The loudest people pretty quiet as 'conservatives' on existential things until they got a liberal into a position of potential power, Suddenly, as if by magic, they became full throated right wing battering rams for patriotism, freedom, the 'Murcian way and prophets of the end times, should all who have ears to hear not immediately and without thought, jump on board.

And they have a tendency to set their sights on actual conservatives that have NOT been quiet over the years about existential matters, conservative ideas, patriotism, freedom and the rest.

What we have here is a classic Liberal gaslighting operation, executed extremely poorly, by liberals with no knowledge of their subject matter, no effective trolling skills and a complete inability to con people to their cause. The result is pretty obvious.

Several people here already who were either 'on the fence' or self proclaimed 'reluctant Trump voters' have been driven from that position into the nevertrump camp not only because of Trump's own actions (which are more than enough on their own to make any sane person question their life choices) but because they don't want the stink of crazy people to taint their reputation both online and in real life.

When this election is over, it's not going to be like other elections with Carter, Clinton and yes, even Obama voters just 'forgiven and forgotten', the whole thing compartmentalized into the recesses of a bad memory. This time you have dangerous people out there attacking others that protest their candidate, tied at the hip to white supremacist groups and threatening the very fabric of the American electoral system setting up conspiracy theories to legitimize the entire process.

The best thing anyone can do is get these people out of your/your families' lives entirely for the sake of sanity and safety. Their comments here and elsewhere are not mere words. They are the exposition of seriously disturbed people with their threats of 'hunting down with dogs' and 'remembering' who non trump voters are. And the Trumpists that arent actually making those threats are either denying them or minimizing their importance. They arent condemning them. They are excusing Trumps sexual assaults of women by his own admission.

People better think about what that elephant is actually doing in the room and how we collectively we can get it out out of the house of conservatism before it destroys the place beyond repair.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2016, 01:10:37 pm by Norm Lenhart »

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #185 on: October 18, 2016, 01:21:29 pm »
You left out lust. They wanted a "hot" first lady.

More vicarious living on their part. It's just another manifestation of how appearance and not truth is what matters to them.

Most people would probably just go to PornHub for their fix of hot looking chicks and prefer a First lady that filled the role of First Ladies to the best of her ability. Not Trump supporters. We see the 'she's hot' thing so often that it's a safe bet that it's the majority opinion there. Pretty much a mirror of Idiocracy.

Thats the same mindset that drives them to spam the memes of WALLLLLLLLL! and JUDGES!!!!! when Trump is on record 'progressively' (natch) backing off his wall/immigration positions and opining that Oprah would make a great SCJ.

He 'SAYS'. His wife 'LOOKS'.  Thats what matters. The feelgood. The absolution of responsibility. The spectacle.

Not the truth/reality.
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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #186 on: October 18, 2016, 02:33:28 pm »
Here is reality. No one can take your freedom unless you surrender, unless you submit.
You are as free as you dare to be, insofar as you have the courage to be defiant.


Which is why you don't pay taxes.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #187 on: October 18, 2016, 02:51:12 pm »

I noticed a long time ago that most, though not all, of the loudest people for Romney were pretty quiet as  'conservatives' on existential things until they got a liberal into a position of potential power, Suddenly, as if by magic, they became full throated right wing battering rams for patriotism, freedom, the 'Murcian way and prophets of the end times, should all who have ears to hear not immeadiately and without thought, jump on board.

"'Murcian way" must be an alley in Bucharest or sumpin.

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What do we see with Trump? The loudest people pretty quiet as 'conservatives' on existential things until they got a liberal into a position of potential power, Suddenly, as if by magic, they became full throated right wing battering rams for patriotism, freedom, the 'Murcian way and prophets of the end times, should all who have ears to hear not immediately and without thought, jump on board.

You spend a lot of time on 'Murcian way.' What do you do there?

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What we have here is a classic Liberal gaslighting operation, executed extremely poorly, by liberals with no knowledge of their subject matter, no effective trolling skills and a complete inability to con people to their cause. The result is pretty obvious.

You think your trolling effective? Pish tosh.

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Several people here already who were either 'on the fence' or self proclaimed 'reluctant Trump voters' have been driven from that position into the nevertrump camp not only because of Trump's own actions (which are more than enough on their own to make any sane person question their life choices) but because they don't want the stink of crazy people to taint their reputation both online and in real life.

Castle. alt-right. Nuff said.

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When this election is over, it's not going to be like other elections with Carter, Clinton and yes, even Obama voters just 'forgiven and forgotten', the whole thing compartmentalized into the recesses of a bad memory. This time you have dangerous people out there attacking others that protest their candidate, tied at the hip to white supremacist groups and threatening the very fabric of the American electoral system setting up conspiracy theories to legitimize the entire process.

Constitution Party. alt-right. Nuff said.

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The best thing anyone can do is get these people out of your/your families' lives entirely for the sake of sanity and safety. Their comments here and elsewhere are not mere words. They are the exposition of seriously disturbed people with their threats of 'hunting down with dogs' and 'remembering' who non trump voters are. And the Trumpists that arent actually making those threats are either denying them or minimizing their importance. They arent condemning them. They are excusing Trumps sexual assaults of women by his own admission.

Castle dismisses JFK's sexual predation.

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People better think about what that elephant is actually doing in the room and how we collectively we can get it out out of the house of conservatism before it destroys the place beyond repair.

Eliminationist rhetoric. Collectivist rhetoric. Fascist.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #188 on: October 18, 2016, 02:54:26 pm »
"'Murcian way" must be an alley in Bucharest or sumpin.

You spend a lot of time on 'Murcian way.' What do you do there?

You think your trolling effective? Pish tosh.

Castle. alt-right. Nuff said.

Constitution Party. alt-right. Nuff said.

Castle dismisses JFK's sexual predation.

Eliminationist rhetoric. Collectivist rhetoric. Fascist.

Nope. All of it is true.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #189 on: October 18, 2016, 03:28:34 pm »
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Eliminationist rhetoric. Collectivist rhetoric. Fascist.

Perfect description of Trump and his minions.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #190 on: October 18, 2016, 03:32:24 pm »
Perfect description of Trump and his minions.

He's upset that normal people don't want Trumpers near them. He better get used to it. It's the reality he helped establish out there in the real world. It isn't going to change.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #191 on: October 18, 2016, 04:52:48 pm »
Perfect description of Trump and his minions.


If so then you can produce that rhetoric. You can't but Norm Lenhart's is right there to be seen.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #192 on: October 18, 2016, 05:31:33 pm »

If so then you can produce that rhetoric. You can't but Norm Lenhart's is right there to be seen.
And Norm Lenhart spoke the truth when he typed it.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #193 on: October 18, 2016, 05:34:55 pm »

If so then you can produce that rhetoric. You can't but Norm Lenhart's is right there to be seen.

Which post of yours or one of the other Trump supporters posts here would you like me to use?

Or would you prefer we use Trump's own words.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

Here lies in honored glory an American soldier, known but to God

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #194 on: October 18, 2016, 05:50:50 pm »
Which post of yours or one of the other Trump supporters posts here would you like me to use?

Or would you prefer we use Trump's own words.


Any of mine here or as 'decimon' as TOS. Who is the collectivist will be readily apparent.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #195 on: October 18, 2016, 06:10:55 pm »
Which post of yours or one of the other Trump supporters posts here would you like me to use?

Or would you prefer we use Trump's own words.

Oh this will be fun to watch!

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« Reply #196 on: October 18, 2016, 07:15:15 pm »

Any of mine here or as 'decimon' as TOS. Who is the collectivist will be readily apparent.

Well since I've been banned for not supporting at TOS I'll have to wade through trough of "stuff" you've posted here.
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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #197 on: October 18, 2016, 07:24:49 pm »

Which is why you don't pay taxes.
Actually, I paid my taxes. If I don't, the government will take them anyway, and this way I get to choose where the money comes from without having my assets sold off for a fraction of their actual value to someone's cronies.

I may even have paid more than the Donald, simply because I can't get as creative with the write-offs, can't afford an army of accountants, have never been sued, and don't go bankrupt and take the loss.

Besides, I know people who have benefited from taxpayer funded programs, who really needed and deserved help, and I just tell myself the money went to them, and I'm okay with it, despite not being thrilled with the middleman.

If any noncompliance existed in my world, it would be stupid to discuss it here anyway. Thanks for playing.
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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #198 on: October 18, 2016, 07:39:30 pm »

Besides, I know people who have benefited from taxpayer funded programs, who really needed and deserved help, and I just tell myself the money went to them, and I'm okay with it, despite not being thrilled with the middleman.



@Jazzhead, you have a political mate.

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Re: Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness
« Reply #199 on: October 18, 2016, 07:39:35 pm »
"'Murcian way" must be an alley in Bucharest or sumpin.

You spend a lot of time on 'Murcian way.' What do you do there?

You think your trolling effective? Pish tosh.

Castle. alt-right. Nuff said.

Constitution Party. alt-right. Nuff said.

Castle dismisses JFK's sexual predation.

Eliminationist rhetoric. Collectivist rhetoric. Fascist.
Sources? Or are you again referring to the Libertarian Party shill Cody Quirk, attacking Darrell Castle in the article here: http://hammeroftruth.com/

Despite saying in that article
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While the evidence is solid that Mr. Castle, Mr. Peck and especially Pastor Baldwin in no way condone and/or share such racially-tinged beliefs & viewpoints as that of Mr. Makow, and such individuals are even more likely unaware of Makow’s highly extremist rhetoric within the Liberty Roundtable website; nevertheless, the fact that Darrell Castle, who is trying to appeal to the disgruntled American voter with his message of constitutional government, individual liberty, and also reestablished moral, traditional values rooted upon Biblical law -

Mr Quirk goes on to push the he knows someone who knows someone who knows someone argument that somehow Castle or the Constitution Party are alt-right, relying on the inherent laziness in human nature to not do any research.

Cody Quirk is a Libertarian http://hammeroftruth.com/2016/coming-out-as-libertarian/
who has made it his goal to smear Castle and has repeatedly done so. The only advantage to that is in the scrum for third party relevance: the Libertarian Party wants to prevail, and truth and fairness are out the window.

@endicom, since you didn't vote in either the GOP or Dem primary, I'm just guessing you are a card-carrying Libertarian, maybe a little disgruntled with Gary Johnson, but still pushing for the Libertarians to be the next big thing when the GOP fragments. You wouldn't be beyond trolling and trying to make someone out to be something they are not would you?

The one party which might appeal to Conservatives more than the Libertarians is the Constitution Party: what's not to like about a platform based on an Originalist interpretation of the Constitution, especially considering that interpretation would, if enforced, solve many of this nation's current problems. Or maybe you are just a card carrying apprentice for Trump who seeks to isolate Conservatives and drive them back on the GOP plantation by lying about yet another candidate and his party.

How about this?  888high58888 Halt! (If you think that is a "heil" you've been standing at the front of the room. What would that make you?)

 
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis