Cairo turns to Moscow for help against Sinai-based terror groups

[TomSea]

Cairo turns to Moscow for help against Sinai-based terror groups

by WorldTribune Staff, October 12, 2016

Russian airborne troops will hold joint military drills with Egyptian forces this month, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

“The joint Russian-Egyptian drills will happen in mid-October 2016 on the territory of Egypt,” the ministry said on Oct. 11.

“The airborne delivery by parachute of several Russian airborne troops’ сombat vehicles to the desert climate of Egypt will occur for the first time in history.”

The drills, called “Protectors of Friendship-2016”, will include 500 troops, 15 planes and helicopters and 10 military hardware units, the ministry said.

Some analysts believe the drills are preparation for an anti-terrorist operation “in a desert environment”.

Vladimir Isayev, a professor at the Institute of Asia and Africa at Moscow State University, said Egypt is seeking Moscow’s support against terrorist organizations operating in Sinai because Cairo can no longer rely on the United States.

Continued: http://www.worldtribune.com/cairo-turns-to-moscow-for-help-against-sinai-based-terror-groups/

The likes of Putin are bad actors; but what are we going to do if long time friends like Egypt, just don't see us as helpful as we could be? Heck, we were still standing up for the "free" election of the MB a few years ago.

[dfwgator]

The likes of Putin are bad actors; but what are we going to do if long time friends like Egypt, just don't see us as helpful as we could be? Heck, we were still standing up for the "free" election of the MB a few years ago.

Obama and Hillary installed that terrorist, Morsi.

[TomSea]

The people of Egypt and Israel have to worry about surviving.

And keeping a situation under control, so one doesn't have the most populous Arab nation, Egypt, being beset by all kinds of bombings and so on. They already have that some.

[endicom]

The Egyptians are seeing who are the talkers and who are the doers. Putin's troops are just more effective than platitudes from Obama and Kerry.

[240B]

The Egyptians are only the first of many former U.S. allies who may turn to the Russians for help.
I think we will soon see a lot more Russian influence all over the African continent.

The immediate goal of the Russians is control of the Suez Canal. That is why we are seeing all this interest in Egypt.

BTW, the Sinai is the southern border of Israel. So this latest development has Russian forces north of Israel in Syria, and south of Israel in Sinai.

In our lifetime we are going to see colossal fundamental changes to the world as we know it. And unfortunately as far as I can tell, the U.S. is shifting into some kind of weak, amorphous, 'no man's land', which has no real definition as a nation, while Russia and China are simultaneously nationalizing and are moving in to the vacuum the implosion of American strength is creating world-wide.

While Obama/Hillary/Kerry focus on gay rights, and men in the women's bathroom, and global warming, and all the other Liberal "cause de celebre", Russia is building nuclear weapons and expanding globally, and China is building the largest Naval Fleet that has ever been seen on Earth before.

[dfwgator]

A nation that doesn't celebrate its' warriors will eventually be taken over by one that does.

[r9etb]

The immediate goal of the Russians is control of the Suez Canal. That is why we are seeing all this interest in Egypt.

And Syria, where the Russians plan to expand their permanent naval presence in the Mediterranean.

This is the truly pernicious consequence of the Obama/Clinton/Kerry foreign policy: the introduction of chaos in the region, coupled with the utter squandering of the trust and influence that had been laboriously built up over decades by presidents of both parties.  Not to mention the renewed influence they've given to Iran.

So now we have given Putin the chance to step in as savior, and to give regional hegemony to a resurgent Russia. 

Beyond that, Europe -- especially Eastern Europe (also badly burned by the O/C/K clown show) -- will also be more pliable toward Russian demands, especially given the energy advantage Russia also holds over them.

And beyond that, we have the entire Pacific region, threatened by China, also utterly distrustful of Obama.

Clinton has no hope of turning that around.  And Trump would make it worse.

[Longmire]

Conservative interventionists lament the loss of American influence in the Middle East, as if our involvement there has borne any fruit whatsoever.

Trillions of dollars expended, thousands of lives lost, and the Middle East is worse off today than it was two decades ago.

But hey, we can't let those evil Russians gain a foothold there....

[r9etb]

Conservative interventionists lament the loss of American influence in the Middle East, as if our involvement there has borne any fruit whatsoever.

Trillions of dollars expended, thousands of lives lost, and the Middle East is worse off today than it was two decades ago.

But hey, we can't let those evil Russians gain a foothold there....

Well, there's your opinion.   

[Longmire]

Well, there's your opinion.   

I wish it were only an opinion...but the trillions spent are real, the casualty numbers are real, and the lack of results is quite real.

Pretending it isn't true while repeating the same mistake over and over is a recipe for disaster.

See Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, & Afghanistan for more information...

[dfwgator]

Conservative interventionists lament the loss of American influence in the Middle East, as if our involvement there has borne any fruit whatsoever.

Trillions of dollars expended, thousands of lives lost, and the Middle East is worse off today than it was two decades ago.

But hey, we can't let those evil Russians gain a foothold there....

Which is why we need energy independence, to get out of that god-forsaken region.

[r9etb]

I wish it were only an opinion...but the trillions spent are real, the casualty numbers are real, and the lack of results is quite real.

Pretending it isn't true while repeating the same mistake over and over is a recipe for disaster.

See Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, & Afghanistan for more information...

And yet it's still just your opinion, which seems to have limited depth.

[Longmire]

And yet it's still just your opinion, which seems to have limited depth.

There you stand...

[r9etb]

Which is why we need energy independence, to get out of that god-forsaken region.

Well.... there are other reasons as well, starting with the Suez Canal.  And to the extent that the interests of Europe coincide with ours, we also have to be concerned about the possibility of Russia having control or significant influence over Europe's Middle Eastern energy sources, on top what the energy Russia already sends to Europe (and which they already use to great effect to influence European policies). 

[r9etb]

There you stand...

And there you are, threatening to bite my legs off....

[dfwgator]

Well.... there are other reasons as well, starting with the Suez Canal.  And to the extent that the interests of Europe coincide with ours, we also have to be concerned about the possibility of Russia having control or significant influence over Europe's Middle Eastern energy sources, on top what the energy Russia already sends to Europe (and which they already use to great effect to influence European policies).

Part of being Energy Independent is being able to supply our friends.  We could, if only we had the will to do it.

[r9etb]

Part of being Energy Independent is being able to supply our friends.  We could, if only we had the will to do it.

Very interesting implications to doing that, not the least of which is a huge increase in superpower status on our part, and the responses of the rest of the world to same.

[Longmire]

Which is why we need energy independence, to get out of that god-forsaken region.

Agree...but notice how hard that seems to be to accomplish by the uni-party DC establishment.

This is the same group whose wisdom gave us financial market crashes, generational wars, etc. etc.

They deserve to be horse whipped for all the damage they've done.

[Longmire]

Well.... there are other reasons as well, starting with the Suez Canal.  And to the extent that the interests of Europe coincide with ours, we also have to be concerned about the possibility of Russia having control or significant influence over Europe's Middle Eastern energy sources, on top what the energy Russia already sends to Europe (and which they already use to great effect to influence European policies).

Hey genius...the United States is 20trillion dollars in debt.

The time to play policeman of the world is OVER!!

[r9etb]

Hey genius...the United States is 20trillion dollars in debt.

The time to play policeman of the world is OVER!!

Blah blah blah....

[Fishrrman]

r9etb wrote (regarding Longmire):
"Well, there's your opinion..."

And I agree with him.

Since the 2001 attacks, we've spent trillions there, and sacrificed far too many of our young fighters.

For.... essentially.... NOTHING.

We have absolutely nothing to show for our efforts, as well-intentioned as they might have been going into things.

The situation in the Mideast is worse (from the viewpoint of The West) now than when we started. No "progress" towards a safer world has been made.

But I've been writing about this (in this forum and also on TOS, when I was there) for quite sometime.
Again and again and again, I'd pose the simple question:

"Who's winning?"

Almost never an answer was offered.

Indeed, when I see the ever-strengthening position of islam -- both in Western Europe and HERE -- I since often modify the question:
Who's winning?
Who won?

It certainly ain't The West.
It certainly ain't us.

[r9etb]

r9etb wrote (regarding Longmire):
"Well, there's your opinion..."

And I agree with him.

Since the 2001 attacks, we've spent trillions there, and sacrificed far too many of our young fighters.

For.... essentially.... NOTHING.

Well, there's your opinion, too.

We did have something, before Obama and team tossed it away. 

[Longmire]

Who's winning?

Defense contractors, foreign governments, big business, lobbyists, politicians...it sure ain't the American taxpayer or the young men & women who were sent to fight there.

Arab democracy is a tar-baby and Uncle Sam is the Br'er rabbit.