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Re: Donald Trump is officially the worst candidate in history
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2016, 01:10:38 pm »

Vote your conscience, and I'll vote mine.


I will do just that, Guthrie.

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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2016, 03:51:14 pm »
Well, your own church called you liberal.


Insanity is spouting the same lies repeatedly in the belief they will then be true.

See my tagline, deacon? Unlike some of the NeverTrumps, I haven't called anyone vile names simply for disagreeing with me. But I do fight back against name-callers.

I haven't told anyone how they must vote. I haven't said a vote to my disliking is a vote for rape. I haven't suggested that a vote I dislike makes the voter Hell bound. It's the NeverTrumps taking that low road.

From your first two posts here:

The Great White Whale of the #NeverTrump movement may have just been downgraded to a minnow.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,222007.msg1029130.html#msg1029130

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In case you didn't realize, but all your posts are easily viewable in reverse chronological order.

You've always been against those that do not support Trump.  And supportive of those that do want Trump.
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Re: Donald Trump is officially the worst candidate in history
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2016, 04:06:13 pm »
From your first two posts here:

The Great White Whale of the #NeverTrump movement may have just been downgraded to a minnow.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,222007.msg1029130.html#msg1029130

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In case you didn't realize, but all your posts are easily viewable in reverse chronological order.

You've always been against those that do not support Trump.  And supportive of those that do want Trump.


Well that was a big nothing. When Trump became the only counter to Hillary was when I wanted to counter the NeverTrumps trying to elect her.

My handle at FR is 'decimon.' What is or was yours?

I once again invite anyone to review my posting history in any forum. And, of course, the posting history of the NeverTrumps.

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Re: Donald Trump is officially the worst candidate in history
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2016, 05:01:24 pm »
It isn't Clinton doing the dividing.  I know most of the 'nevertrumps' here, and have known them a very long time. Every man-jack of them is anti-amnesty, and fought the fight for the border fence.  Your argument would hold weight if it wasn't the Republicans we were fighting then (and even yet). ...and likewise, if your candidate was even mildly believable (he has reversed everything he has ever said) or trustworthy (try and find just ten minutes of any speech he has made that doesn't contain a lie).  Your statement explains perfectly why you find it easy to support an immoral low-character buffoon.
@roamer_1

I believe the following few reasons are the bedrock of why he can't win.
Fighting with Republican leaders.
Complaining that everything from the polls to the debates to the entire election is rigged against him.
Not bothering to practice before the debates, when he'll be watched by nearly 100 million people.
Not bothering to mount a ground operation to get his supporters to the polls.
Making Bill Clinton's affair the thematic centerpiece of his campaign.
Alienating moderate women, Latinos, and pretty much any key voting bloc he can't afford to lose.

It takes money to develop a ground game to get voters to the polls, and he isn't doing that.  Clinton did put money into swing states to have workers in counties/parishes to register voters and those workers will get the voters to the polls.  Trump is relying on rallies and no votes happen in rallies. 

In speaking of the women who have come forward to accuse him, he has said something like this, "Look at her.  No way."  This is the worst comment he could make and here is why that comment lost him mega women's votes:

Every woman, or 99.99% of women, doubt they are a 10 on the disgusting rating scale of women's looks and that is Trump's way of rating women.  We were born the way we look and are stuck with that our entire life.  When Trump says, "Look at her.  No way."  Women take that as a blow to their looks, the way they were born.  There is NO WAY a woman would vote for him if they hear that comment.

How do I rate on his scale?  Most of you know I am 83 - I am a nothing to him and neither is any woman after she is 35.  He told Howard Stern a man should change his woman when she becomes 35.  That is why I say women are furniture to Trump - they are only furniture to look good. 

When Trump says, "No way" every woman knows she is nothing to him.  It doesn't matter if she has good brains and accomplishes goals, she is still nothing to him.  I have watched the polls about women the past couple of days, and he is at the bottom of their list, worse than any election going back decades. 

Women think this of being rated by him:  Women would use their finest casserole recipe, bake him into the casserole and then dump it in the trash.  They would use him as a mop to clean their floor, then dump the Trump mop in the trash.  They would take him to their work, then grind him up in the pencil sharpener.  They would stick him in their carpool when they take the children to school, then run over him with the car.  They would have him stay up in the middle of the night when their child is sick, then give him castor oil and lock him in the bathroom.

Women are born with genes to enable them to be mothers and lovers and helpers and genes determine their level of smarts and the way they look.  No woman should be discounted based on her looks because there is so much good in them.  Golda Meir was a big boned woman, a big woman, and by Trump's evaluation she is nothing, however she led Israel when they were in trouble and is revered by them.  Marie Curie discovered two new chemical elements – radium and polonium, but she was a plain looking woman, so she would not make Trump's 10 list.

Every woman should dump Trump and his 10 list.

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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2016, 05:29:20 pm »
@roamer_1

I believe the following few reasons are the bedrock of why he can't win.
Fighting with Republican leaders.
Complaining that everything from the polls to the debates to the entire election is rigged against him.
Not bothering to practice before the debates, when he'll be watched by nearly 100 million people.
Not bothering to mount a ground operation to get his supporters to the polls.
Making Bill Clinton's affair the thematic centerpiece of his campaign.
Alienating moderate women, Latinos, and pretty much any key voting bloc he can't afford to lose.

It takes money to develop a ground game to get voters to the polls, and he isn't doing that.  Clinton did put money into swing states to have workers in counties/parishes to register voters and those workers will get the voters to the polls.  Trump is relying on rallies and no votes happen in rallies. 

In speaking of the women who have come forward to accuse him, he has said something like this, "Look at her.  No way."  This is the worst comment he could make and here is why that comment lost him mega women's votes:

Every woman, or 99.99% of women, doubt they are a 10 on the disgusting rating scale of women's looks and that is Trump's way of rating women.  We were born the way we look and are stuck with that our entire life.  When Trump says, "Look at her.  No way."  Women take that as a blow to their looks, the way they were born.  There is NO WAY a woman would vote for him if they hear that comment.

How do I rate on his scale?  Most of you know I am 83 - I am a nothing to him and neither is any woman after she is 35.  He told Howard Stern a man should change his woman when she becomes 35.  That is why I say women are furniture to Trump - they are only furniture to look good. 

When Trump says, "No way" every woman knows she is nothing to him.  It doesn't matter if she has good brains and accomplishes goals, she is still nothing to him.  I have watched the polls about women the past couple of days, and he is at the bottom of their list, worse than any election going back decades. 

Women think this of being rated by him:  Women would use their finest casserole recipe, bake him into the casserole and then dump it in the trash.  They would use him as a mop to clean their floor, then dump the Trump mop in the trash.  They would take him to their work, then grind him up in the pencil sharpener.  They would stick him in their carpool when they take the children to school, then run over him with the car.  They would have him stay up in the middle of the night when their child is sick, then give him castor oil and lock him in the bathroom.

Women are born with genes to enable them to be mothers and lovers and helpers and genes determine their level of smarts and the way they look.  No woman should be discounted based on her looks because there is so much good in them.  Golda Meir was a big boned woman, a big woman, and by Trump's evaluation she is nothing, however she led Israel when they were in trouble and is revered by them.  Marie Curie discovered two new chemical elements – radium and polonium, but she was a plain looking woman, so she would not make Trump's 10 list.

Every woman should dump Trump and his 10 list.

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@Victoria33

You hit on a number of reasons why my wife will be voting for Clinton even though she dislikes Clinton a lot.  For her, Trump has made this election into an issue of women's rights and she feels he's trying to set the country back 50 years. 

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Re: Donald Trump is officially the worst candidate in history
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2016, 05:37:15 pm »
@Victoria33

You hit on a number of reasons why my wife will be voting for Clinton even though she dislikes Clinton a lot.  For her, Trump has made this election into an issue of women's rights and she feels he's trying to set the country back 50 years.

No woman should vote for Trump and no man who respects women should vote for him.
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2016, 05:40:02 pm »
The Trumpers here have an odd and unreasonable faith in Donald Trump.  He's said some things they like.

He's promised some things they love.

BUT ... even as even Trump can see his chances slipping away, he cannot discipline himself enough to do a few things that would increase his chances.

He ignores all counsel and goes his own mad way.

Anyone expecting him to act differently if he became president is deluding him or herself.

He won't.  He can't.
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2016, 05:44:14 pm »
@roamer_1

I believe the following few reasons are the bedrock of why he can't win.

Trump, at his peak, was an average looking guy.

Trump, without his father giving him his considerable leg up in life would have no more skills than any other average guy.

With his average looks and average abilities, Trump would be in competition with far better looking and more talented men for the attention of the average women he scorns.

There's two things we can learn from this. First, without his leg up in life, he'd most likely be just as average as most other guys in all aspects of his life if not for the one thing that separates him from 'average'. His mindset/personality.

That leads us to the second. Because he has the mindset/personality he does, he'd likely not land himself an average woman. He'd land himself an emotionally damaged woman he could easily manipulate and sponge off. Because with utterly average looks and skills, he would not be in Real Estate or any other high dollar position. He'd be working an average job, getting average evals, living in an average home with an average car. Because he has shown his success comes from others. Not himself.
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2016, 05:59:23 pm »
@Norm Lenhart


On Howard Stern's show Trump himself said he liked emotionally troubled women because they were great in bed.

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How can any true conservative allow into office who will give us millions of additional socialist voters?

Trump has done more reaching out to socialist Bernie voters than to real conservatives. He seems to hate conservatives more than Hillary.

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The sad truth is, however, that Donald Trump never had any intention of winning. His supporters are convinced he will win. They are desperate for him to win. But they have been conned by a gold plated fraud. This was all a branding exercise and he will go back to his gilded tower satisfied that if he could not get elected, at least his friend Hillary Clinton got elected.

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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2016, 06:15:46 pm »
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On Howard Stern's show Trump himself said he liked emotionally troubled women because they were great in bed.

Now WHY am I not surprised.

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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2016, 06:19:08 pm »
No woman should vote for Trump and no man who respects women should vote for him.

Seriously?   That is why you don't want to vote for Trump?!   There are many reasons he sucks but to say Hillary has more respect for women then Trump is a pipe dream.

Hillary lied to get a child rapist free.
Hillary helped cover up her husbands rapes.
Hillary celebrates the murder of innocent babies.
Hillary freely takes money from and then helps countries  which treat women like dogs.

 
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Re: Donald Trump is officially the worst candidate in history
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2016, 06:20:27 pm »
@Victoria33

You hit on a number of reasons why my wife will be voting for Clinton even though she dislikes Clinton a lot.  For her, Trump has made this election into an issue of women's rights and she feels he's trying to set the country back 50 years.

There is no justification.....none, ever....that I could find to vote for Hillary Clinton.  Not in this universe and not in any other.  Voting for evil only begets more destruction and more evil.  If I have learned nothing else in life, I have (finally) learned that.  Perhaps that is a lesson that we are all supposed to learn while alive.
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Re: Donald Trump is officially the worst candidate in history
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2016, 06:21:23 pm »
Trump has done more reaching out to socialist Bernie voters than to real conservatives. He seems to hate conservatives more than Hillary.

Probably because his advisors tell him he's got the conservative votes he's gonna get.   Whereas the bernie voters are huge pool of undecideds.
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« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2016, 06:52:51 pm »
Probably because his advisors tell him he's got the conservative votes he's gonna get.   Whereas the bernie voters are huge pool of undecideds.

That pool of undecideds is not as big as the media make people think.

Trump doesn't want the Conservative vote...he's told us that repeatedly.

He could have a metric shit ton more Conservative voters but he and his supporters in and out of the media have done their level best to drive us away.
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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2016, 06:54:39 pm »

Well that was a big nothing. When Trump became the only counter to Hillary was when I wanted to counter the NeverTrumps trying to elect her.

My handle at FR is 'decimon.' What is or was yours?

I once again invite anyone to review my posting history in any forum. And, of course, the posting history of the NeverTrumps.

When are you going to get it through your thick skull that not wanting Trump to win does not mean we want Hillary in office?

How many more times must @mystery-ak tell you guys to knock that crap off?
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« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2016, 06:56:02 pm »
That pool of undecideds is not as big as the media make people think.

Trump doesn't want the Conservative vote...he's told us that repeatedly.

He could have a metric shit ton more Conservative voters but he and his supporters in and out of the media have done their level best to drive us away.

They certainly have done a good job.   I wonder just how many 'conservative' voters there are according to their analysis.   The schools have been teaching liberalism for decades.   We done nothing to reverse that trend.
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« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2016, 07:06:31 pm »
They certainly have done a good job.   I wonder just how many 'conservative' voters there are according to their analysis.   The schools have been teaching liberalism for decades.   We done nothing to reverse that trend.

Last Pew Research Group poll I saw showed a plurality (45% IIRC) of Americans were either outright Conservative or leaned Conservative.  35% identified as Liberal or Progressive.

And IMHO a lot of those so called "Independent" voters are Conservatives who quit the GOP because of all the RINO's and would gladly return should the party quit trying to be Dem Lite.

You're certainly correct...we've fought delaying actions in the war on Liberalism...but we haven't won a major battle in 30 years.

Our party is infested with too many people willing to sell us out in return for their own security and safety as the permanent minority.

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2016, 07:54:02 pm »
Seriously?   That is why you don't want to vote for Trump?!   There are many reasons he sucks but to say Hillary has more respect for women then Trump is a pipe dream.

Hillary lied to get a child rapist free.
Hillary helped cover up her husbands rapes.
Hillary celebrates the murder of innocent babies.
Hillary freely takes money from and then helps countries  which treat women like dogs.

Not at all.  If Trump were a sane and decent human being who was a little bit of a skirt chaser and misogynist, I might be able to bring myself to vote for him.

If I thought he would actually fight for pro-life causes or even cared, I might vote for him.

If I thought he had a good knowledge of foreign policy and could be trusted on that score, I might vote for him.

If I thought he had any intention of building a wall and knew how to implement that, I might vote for him.

If I thought he'd been a good businessman and would bring those skills to the presidency, I might vote for him.  Instead, he took inherited wealth and made constant bad decisions that resulted in a record number of lawsuits, multiple bankruptcies, and failure to pay many contractors.

If I thought there was anything to recommend him... I mean anything except pipe dreams ... I might vote for him.

If I thought Hillary was more dangerous for the country than Trump, I might vote for him.

BUT... I'm not voting for him.
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« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2016, 08:42:10 pm »
@Victoria33

You hit on a number of reasons why my wife will be voting for Clinton even though she dislikes Clinton a lot.  For her, Trump has made this election into an issue of women's rights and she feels he's trying to set the country back 50 years.

He IS setting women's rights back 50 years.

Nothing in the world would make me vote for Hillary, but if these misogynist trump lovers don't think their predator hero is losing women's votes they're dumber than rocks.
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« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2016, 08:44:19 pm »
No woman should vote for Trump and no man who respects women should vote for him.

Amen to that!!
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2016, 08:45:42 pm »
He IS setting women's rights back 50 years.

Nothing in the world would make me vote for Hillary, but if these misogynist trump lovers don't think their predator hero is losing women's votes they're dumber than rocks.

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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2016, 12:44:40 am »
I believe the following few reasons are the bedrock of why he can't win.
Fighting with Republican leaders.
Complaining that everything from the polls to the debates to the entire election is rigged against him.
Not bothering to practice before the debates, when he'll be watched by nearly 100 million people.
Not bothering to mount a ground operation to get his supporters to the polls.
Making Bill Clinton's affair the thematic centerpiece of his campaign.
Alienating moderate women, Latinos, and pretty much any key voting bloc he can't afford to lose.

It takes money to develop a ground game to get voters to the polls, and he isn't doing that.  Clinton did put money into swing states to have workers in counties/parishes to register voters and those workers will get the voters to the polls.  Trump is relying on rallies and no votes happen in rallies. 

In speaking of the women who have come forward to accuse him, he has said something like this, "Look at her.  No way."  This is the worst comment he could make and here is why that comment lost him mega women's votes:

Every woman, or 99.99% of women, doubt they are a 10 on the disgusting rating scale of women's looks and that is Trump's way of rating women.  We were born the way we look and are stuck with that our entire life.  When Trump says, "Look at her.  No way."  Women take that as a blow to their looks, the way they were born.  There is NO WAY a woman would vote for him if they hear that comment.

How do I rate on his scale?  Most of you know I am 83 - I am a nothing to him and neither is any woman after she is 35.  He told Howard Stern a man should change his woman when she becomes 35.  That is why I say women are furniture to Trump - they are only furniture to look good. 

When Trump says, "No way" every woman knows she is nothing to him.  It doesn't matter if she has good brains and accomplishes goals, she is still nothing to him.  I have watched the polls about women the past couple of days, and he is at the bottom of their list, worse than any election going back decades. 

Women think this of being rated by him:  Women would use their finest casserole recipe, bake him into the casserole and then dump it in the trash.  They would use him as a mop to clean their floor, then dump the Trump mop in the trash.  They would take him to their work, then grind him up in the pencil sharpener.  They would stick him in their carpool when they take the children to school, then run over him with the car.  They would have him stay up in the middle of the night when their child is sick, then give him castor oil and lock him in the bathroom.

Women are born with genes to enable them to be mothers and lovers and helpers and genes determine their level of smarts and the way they look.  No woman should be discounted based on her looks because there is so much good in them.  Golda Meir was a big boned woman, a big woman, and by Trump's evaluation she is nothing, however she led Israel when they were in trouble and is revered by them.  Marie Curie discovered two new chemical elements – radium and polonium, but she was a plain looking woman, so she would not make Trump's 10 list.

Every woman should dump Trump and his 10 list.

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Thx for the ping.  But going to be out mostly for the next week, so I will not have time to chime in much, if at all.

Enjoying a Church festival. 

Hold the fort, I will be back.
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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2016, 01:56:03 am »
They certainly have done a good job.   I wonder just how many 'conservative' voters there are according to their analysis.   The schools have been teaching liberalism for decades.   We done nothing to reverse that trend.

Oh, but you are very wrong in that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq6rusc_EjM

The Russians fell in years.
European countries fell in years.

Why do you think it has taken them decades here (and still not accomplished).