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October 2, 2016
New York Times violates law to publish partial Trump tax return from 90s and speculate about his taxes
By Thomas Lifson

See also: Trump, Taxes and the Times

Trump Derangement Syndrome has led the New York Times to willfully violate federal law in order to speculate about what taxes Donald Trump may or may not have been paying.  In a front-page article, built on crime and conjecture, the Times ends up with very weak beer on Trump, but a convincing case for its own irresponsibility and criminality.

The lede paragraph reveals the astonishing lack of factual reporting and descent into mere speculation, speculation that supports the latest Hillary Clinton attack line on Trump, that he pays “no taxes” (a recapitulation of the Harry Reid lies on the Senate floor about Mitt Romney’s taxes. When confronted with his lies, Reid said, “It worked, didn’t it?”). Presumably, in the eyes of NYT executive editor Dean Baquet, if this speculation succeeds in defeating Trump, his own criminality and descent into speculation is also justified by the results.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/10/new_york_times_violates_law_to_publish_partial_trump_tax_return_from_90s_and_speculate_about_his_taxes.html#ixzz4LwJ6Kvd8
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There is no shortage of people on here lapping it up. ****sheep****

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Boo, hoo, hoo.  Maybe your "god" should have disclosed in the first place, just like everyone else has done in the last 40 years or so.  What makes him so special that the rules apply to everyone else, but not him?

Deal with it.

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The Republican Party deserves this for not vetting its candidate.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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There is no shortage of people on here lapping it up. ****sheep****

Karma's a bitch (even bigger than Hillary), ain't it!   :silly:
No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

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Boo, hoo, hoo.  Maybe your "god" should have disclosed in the first place, just like everyone else has done in the last 40 years or so.  What makes him so special that the rules apply to everyone else, but not him?

Deal with it.
If you are addressing me. first off he's not my god. second what rule would that be? just curious .

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Karma's a bitch (even bigger than Hillary), ain't it!   :silly:
Thats a bigun.

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Alex Burns ‏@alexburnsNYT  59m59 minutes ago
So while Trump has been repeating "follow the money" as a mantra, an amazing team of investigators did. This is where it wound up.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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If it is OK to release Clinton foundation tax returns and emails, it is OK to release this. Sometimes the light has to be shown on darkness- and both sides are being exposed big time this cycle.   I guess to some, whistleblowers and leaks are fine only when they aren't exposing our side. It is either all good or all not good.

As I pointed out last night, if you or I were applying for a job in the White House to iron table cloths, we would be required to release our tax forms, and more, as part of the security background check. Someone applying for the with the responsibility and power of Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces should at the very least, undergo the same background check with the party they are applying for that job with- in this case the citizens.

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If you are addressing me. first off he's not my god.


The NetherHumpers have adopted this mantra so to slur the non-leftists settling for Trump.

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If it is OK to release Clinton foundation tax returns and emails, it is OK to release this. Sometimes the light has to be shown on darkness- and both sides are being exposed big time this cycle.   I guess to some, whistleblowers and leaks are fine only when they aren't exposing our side. It is either all good or all not good.

As I pointed out last night, if you or I were applying for a job in the White House to iron table cloths, we would be required to release our tax forms, and more, as part of the security background check. Someone applying for the with the responsibility and power of Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces should at the very least, undergo the same background check with the party they are applying for that job with- in this case the citizens.

It was unprecedented for him not to release.  Baloney audit story.  And his son admitted he could but shouldn't because every person would then become an auditor.  Well my bet is that he will probably try and file a lawsuit.   He continues to be very busy in court.  Rape allegations refilled Friday..............
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Raise your hand if you ever asked your tax person not to make the amount you owed as small as possible.

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It was unprecedented for him not to release.  Baloney audit story.  And his son admitted he could but shouldn't because every person would then become an auditor.  Well my bet is that he will probably try and file a lawsuit.   He continues to be very busy in court.  Rape allegations refilled Friday..............

Interesting, there is some hints going around Twitter now that this isn't about him not paying taxes, that's a surface issue.....

...it is how he was able to continue operating his business when filing an almost billion dollar loss....

Who bailed him out?

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The NetherHumpers have adopted this mantra so to slur the non-leftists settling for Trump.
Less than a week ago, Someome posted a prayer to Trump. Another current FR type hammered it home.

Shoe fits. No retraction until he was called on it repeatedly, then claiming it to be a joke.

Secondly, Conservatives don't vote for lifetime liberals. Vote for a liberal, you are a liberal. Excuses do not nullify Logic and Reason.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2016, 03:28:07 pm by Norm Lenhart »

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If you are addressing me. first off he's not my god. second what rule would that be? just curious .

...the rule that goes like this: ...I HATE DONALD TRUMP! WHAAAAAAAA!!!!   :baby:

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And when all those emails from the DNC were illegally released did the Trump campaign condemn that?

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Raise your hand if you ever asked your tax person not to make the amount you owed as small as possible.

Well we don't make a combined income over 40,000 a year.  I allow the IRS to take out more so I don't have to pay.  I would be in a world of hurt if I got a tax bill at the end of the year.  I have to pray I can pay my property tax twice a year.

And you can believe at this point I am not excusing Donald Trump for not paying taxes.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2016, 03:34:06 pm by Chosen Daughter »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Raise your hand if you ever asked your tax person not to make the amount you owed as small as possible.

I don't believe that's the point.  Of course, everyone wants to maximize every deduction.  The questions though are whether whatever Trump has done to avoid taxation is legal and whether information in his returns will reveal that Trump isn't the brilliant, successful businessman his propaganda makes him out to be. 

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Interesting, there is some hints going around Twitter now that this isn't about him not paying taxes, that's a surface issue.....

...it is how he was able to continue operating his business when filing an almost billion dollar loss....

Who bailed him out?

I don't know.....but it damned well better not be Goldman Sachs!
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I don't know.....but it damned well better not be Goldman Sachs!

I think I read his father bailed him out on the Casino.  But the real story is that he is a failure in business.  He is rich by bankruptcy and IRS.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Depending on who the person was who sent the returns to the NYT, they could be in legal or ethical trouble (i.e. if it was a current or former Trump accountant or attorney or someone from the IRS or any of the state taxing authorities).

But according to this, and opinions may differ, as long as the NYT didn’t participate in any illegal activity themselves in obtaining the pages of the three state tax returns, (say that one of their reporters actively encouraged or helped a government employee to break the law) since it could be deemed in the public interest and it was presumably given to them absent any request or pressure or payment on their part, based on prior case law, the NYT might be shielded from any lawsuits.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/trump-claims-the-new-york-times-illegally-published-his-taxes-we-investigate-if-thats-true/

And I have to believe that the NYT ran this through their legal department before publishing.

And just pondering - since these returns were filed married-jointly and signed by Trump and his then wife Maples, could Marla Maples have released them to the NYT, would both tax payers be expected to authorize a release or only one of them, and if so would it be a violation of her NDA?  Maples didn’t get that much of a divorce settlement and is no longer receiving any payments from Trump and their daughter Tiffany is now over 21, so what would Maples have to lose by doing so?  And what could she gain by doing so? Revenge? Low on cash?

I saw the NYT reporter Susanne Craig on CNN a while ago and she answered “no comment” as to the questions did she know who sent the docs and are there others.
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I think I read his father bailed him out on the Casino.  But the real story is that he is a failure in business.  He is rich by bankruptcy and IRS.

Yeah.....it's always nice to have a filthy rich daddy to bail you out whenever you have another epic fail, isn't it.  Not that I (or most American voters) would know first-hand.  Another real story is that Trump has never had to actually struggle to pay for ANY thing in his life.  His fat cat dad was there until 1999, and after that he inherited about $35 million from dad's estate.
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There is no shortage of people on here lapping it up. ****sheep****

If the New York Times breaks the law, it will have no lasting effect on the country or my life.

If Trump is a law-breaker, that will be a source of concern to me.
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I don't know.....but it damned well better not be Goldman Sachs!

Or the US Government/Clinton (Bill) Administration. It was 1995, he was good friends and a donor to them.

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Or the US Government/Clinton (Bill) Administration. It was 1995, he was good friends and a donor to them.

I doubt that it was the Clintons.  They're birds of the same feather in that they never do anything to benefit others....only themselves.  Much more likely that it was either Trump's father or a bank.

I find it highly ironic though.....that after Trump's threat to "spill the beans".....somebody has spilled some of the beans on him.....with many more beans to come, no doubt.


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